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...The suits further argue that the select committee is failing to fulfill a “valid legislative purpose” consistent with the constitutional authorities of Congress.

 

“Because of this tie between the investigative and legislative powers, Congress may only issue subpoenas that serve a valid legislative purpose. Law enforcement and the punishment of perceived legal wrongs are not valid legislative purposes. To the extent Congress seeks to utilize subpoenas to investigate and punish perceived criminal wrongdoing, it unconstitutionally intrudes on the prerogatives of the Executive Branch.”

 

The argument continues, noting that “the Select Committee has failed to identify any legislative purpose served by the Meadows Subpoena. It has not considered any draft legislation, nor has it provided any explanation for why its requests to Mr. Meadows would further any valid legislative end …

 

“The Select Committee’s authorizing resolution also fails to identify its legislative purpose. It is vague to the point of meaninglessness, authorizing the Select Committee to ‘investigate the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol, including facts and circumstances relating to … entities of the public and private sector as determined relevant by the Select Committee for such investigation.’”

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/growing-list-of-federal-court-suits-could-force-end-of-january-6-riot-select-committee_4163325.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=gp

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10 hours ago, Old Mack said:

...The suits further argue that the select committee is failing to fulfill a “valid legislative purpose” consistent with the constitutional authorities of Congress.

 

“Because of this tie between the investigative and legislative powers, Congress may only issue subpoenas that serve a valid legislative purpose. Law enforcement and the punishment of perceived legal wrongs are not valid legislative purposes. To the extent Congress seeks to utilize subpoenas to investigate and punish perceived criminal wrongdoing, it unconstitutionally intrudes on the prerogatives of the Executive Branch.”

 

The argument continues, noting that “the Select Committee has failed to identify any legislative purpose served by the Meadows Subpoena. It has not considered any draft legislation, nor has it provided any explanation for why its requests to Mr. Meadows would further any valid legislative end …

 

“The Select Committee’s authorizing resolution also fails to identify its legislative purpose. It is vague to the point of meaninglessness, authorizing the Select Committee to ‘investigate the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol, including facts and circumstances relating to … entities of the public and private sector as determined relevant by the Select Committee for such investigation.’”

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/growing-list-of-federal-court-suits-could-force-end-of-january-6-riot-select-committee_4163325.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=gp

 

They are Show-Trial Democrat National Socialists/Communists...

 

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2022 Midterms can't get here soon enough.

 

Speaker of the House, the honorable President Donald J. Trump, presiding...

 

 

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10 hours ago, Old Mack said:

...The suits further argue that the select committee is failing to fulfill a “valid legislative purpose” consistent with the constitutional authorities of Congress.

 

“Because of this tie between the investigative and legislative powers, Congress may only issue subpoenas that serve a valid legislative purpose. Law enforcement and the punishment of perceived legal wrongs are not valid legislative purposes. To the extent Congress seeks to utilize subpoenas to investigate and punish perceived criminal wrongdoing, it unconstitutionally intrudes on the prerogatives of the Executive Branch.”

 

The argument continues, noting that “the Select Committee has failed to identify any legislative purpose served by the Meadows Subpoena. It has not considered any draft legislation, nor has it provided any explanation for why its requests to Mr. Meadows would further any valid legislative end …

 

“The Select Committee’s authorizing resolution also fails to identify its legislative purpose. It is vague to the point of meaninglessness, authorizing the Select Committee to ‘investigate the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol, including facts and circumstances relating to … entities of the public and private sector as determined relevant by the Select Committee for such investigation.’”

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/growing-list-of-federal-court-suits-could-force-end-of-january-6-riot-select-committee_4163325.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=gp

That is a pretty interesting take on the situation.   

 

I still like the precedent it sets, because it's the legislative branch taking back some of the authority it has ceded to the executive, but the OP makes a damn good argument against it. 

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1 minute ago, slideman said:

The courts aren't even going to honor these suits as there is a separation of powers and they do not have power over the Congress actually it is vice versa Congress has power over the courts read the Constitution you ignorant fucks.

So what is the legislative goal behind the investigation?   

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The question is moot as the courts do not have jurisdiction over the operations of the Congress.

Read the Constitution

The Congress can change remove invalidate promote and destroy the courts at will they are entirely under the aegis of the US Congress.

Keep trying

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3 minutes ago, slideman said:

Congress needs to make laws to prevent a future occurrence of attempted insurrection and reversal of a legitimately democratically held election.

I would say that is a valid legislative purpose wouldn't you?

What is the proposed legislation that they are collecting data to facilitate a vote on?

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3 minutes ago, slideman said:

You will have to ask the committee.

Those conclusions will be drawn when the investigation is complete

From the OP:

 

"The argument continues, noting that “the Select Committee has failed to identify any legislative purpose served by the Meadows Subpoena. It has not considered any draft legislation, nor has it provided any explanation for why its requests to Mr. Meadows would further any valid legislative end …"

 

 

They've been asked and didn't provide an answer.   

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3 hours ago, crazyhole said:

...but the OP makes a damn good argument against it. 

 

Thats what happens when the GOV goes after a high power lawyer.

 

If he was just another jawn he'd be going to jail with the rest of them.

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6 minutes ago, crazyhole said:

From the OP:

 

"The argument continues, noting that “the Select Committee has failed to identify any legislative purpose served by the Meadows Subpoena. It has not considered any draft legislation, nor has it provided any explanation for why its requests to Mr. Meadows would further any valid legislative end …"

 

 

They've been asked and didn't provide an answer.   

They are not required to supply an answer at this juncture. How can they know what laws are needed to correct the problem until they have conducted an investigation into the problem your assertions make no sense at all?

 

In addition the question is moot as the courts do not have jurisdiction over the Congress. Rather the reverse is true Congress can destroy the courts at any time they wish it is completely under their control.

 

Sorry

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2 minutes ago, slideman said:

They are not required to supply an answer at this juncture. How can they know what laws are needed to correct the problem until they have conducted an investigation into the problem your assertions make no sense at all?

 

In addition the question is moot as the courts do not have jurisdiction over the Congress. Rather the reverse is true Congress can destroy the courts at any time they wish it is completely under their control.

 

Sorry

But it isn't the constitutional role of Congress to investigate crimes outside of house rules and ethics charges.    That falls on the executive branch.    So unless there is a clear legislative goal that has been laid out, what is the point of this investigation?

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24 minutes ago, slideman said:

Congress has power over the courts read the Constitution you ignorant fucks.

 

You're kidding !

 

So you're saying if Congress passes a law and the president signs it and than it is challenged in the Supreme Court over rules it ...The Congress gets to say what is what.

 

jiveman...I thought you was a hack BUT now I know it.

 

Article III, Section I states that "The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish." Although the Constitution establishes the Supreme Court, it permits Congress to decide how to organize it.

 

 Congress creates laws; the Supreme Court interprets those laws in the context of legal disputes and rules on their constitutionality. Congress can change the courts' size, structure, and jurisdiction.

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1 hour ago, crazyhole said:

But it isn't the constitutional role of Congress to investigate crimes outside of house rules and ethics charges.    That falls on the executive branch.    So unless there is a clear legislative goal that has been laid out, what is the point of this investigation?

If we had the internet back in 1974 you'd be asking the same thing about the Watergate investigation.

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5 hours ago, Blue Devil said:

 

They are Show-Trial Democrat National Socialists/Communists...

 

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2022 Midterms can't get here soon enough.

 

Speaker of the House, the honorable President Donald J. Trump, presiding...

 

 

Quite a mug shot, you can by looking these fuckers aren't right in the head.

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15 hours ago, Old Mack said:

...The suits further argue that the select committee is failing to fulfill a “valid legislative purpose” consistent with the constitutional authorities of Congress.

 

“Because of this tie between the investigative and legislative powers, Congress may only issue subpoenas that serve a valid legislative purpose. Law enforcement and the punishment of perceived legal wrongs are not valid legislative purposes. To the extent Congress seeks to utilize subpoenas to investigate and punish perceived criminal wrongdoing, it unconstitutionally intrudes on the prerogatives of the Executive Branch.”

 

The argument continues, noting that “the Select Committee has failed to identify any legislative purpose served by the Meadows Subpoena. It has not considered any draft legislation, nor has it provided any explanation for why its requests to Mr. Meadows would further any valid legislative end …

 

“The Select Committee’s authorizing resolution also fails to identify its legislative purpose. It is vague to the point of meaninglessness, authorizing the Select Committee to ‘investigate the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol, including facts and circumstances relating to … entities of the public and private sector as determined relevant by the Select Committee for such investigation.’”

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/growing-list-of-federal-court-suits-could-force-end-of-january-6-riot-select-committee_4163325.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=gp

No chance of this succeeding.  Congress is given wide latitude in this area 

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