superds77 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Yet more evidence of the "do something" disease. Just a show by a democrat congressperson. This FEDERAL legislation is DOA, it has no chance and she knows it. Slotkin is done for in 2022. Book it. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/15/slotkin-introduce-bill-require-safe-storage-firearms/8896477002/ " Washington — In the wake of the deadly Oxford school shooting, U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin is planning to introduce legislation in Congress requiring the secure storage of firearms in households where children could reasonably access the weapon. Gun owners who don't secure their firearms could face up to five years in prison if a child does gain access to the weapon and uses it to cause injury to themselves or others or uses it in a crime, according to a bill summary. "I really wanted the first bill to come out of this tragedy to be based on the sentiment and wishes of the community ... toward changing the law to support responsible gun ownership and preventing access by children," said Slotkin, a Holly Democrat who represents the Oxford area." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegasgiants Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 minute ago, superds77 said: Yet more evidence of the "do something" disease. Just a show by a democrat congressperson. This FEDERAL legislation is DOA, it has no chance and she knows it. Slotkin is done for in 2022. Book it. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/15/slotkin-introduce-bill-require-safe-storage-firearms/8896477002/ " Washington — In the wake of the deadly Oxford school shooting, U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin is planning to introduce legislation in Congress requiring the secure storage of firearms in households where children could reasonably access the weapon. Gun owners who don't secure their firearms could face up to five years in prison if a child does gain access to the weapon and uses it to cause injury to themselves or others or uses it in a crime, according to a bill summary. "I really wanted the first bill to come out of this tragedy to be based on the sentiment and wishes of the community ... toward changing the law to support responsible gun ownership and preventing access by children," said Slotkin, a Holly Democrat who represents the Oxford area." How dare we require Americans to secure their weapons from children!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superds77 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, vegasgiants said: How dare we require Americans to secure their weapons from children!!!!!!!! Tell us how this would have prevented the tragedy at Oxford High School? At the federal level , this is pure theater and you, as expected, fall for it hook, line and sinker. If something like this even has a chance it would be at a state level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegasgiants Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, superds77 said: Tell us how this would have prevented the tragedy at Oxford High School? At the federal level , this is pure theater and you, as expected, fall for it hook, line and sinker. If something like this even has a chance it would be at a state level. If you did not secure your weapon and a child uses it to hurt someone shoukd you be punished? That's what this law does Tell me what is wrong with that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superds77 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, vegasgiants said: If you did not secure your weapon and a child uses it to hurt someone shoukd you be punished? That's what this law does Tell me what is wrong with that? I think this is a worthy discussion to have at a state level. The devil is in the details. No need for a one-size fits all from DC. Let the states, rightfully, decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegasgiants Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 minute ago, superds77 said: I think this is a worthy discussion to have at a state level. The devil is in the details. No need for a one-size fits all from DC. Let the states, rightfully, decide. There is no state in the union that has a good reason for NOT having this law It is basic common sense and obviously they cant get it done so it should be done federally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superds77 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, vegasgiants said: There is no state in the union that has a good reason for NOT having this law It is basic common sense and obviously they cant get it done so it should be done federally Well that is one point of view. I say, let the good people of each respective state decide. Perhaps some come up with better ideas. Lastly, adding a stack of laws will not, and likely would not, prevent this sorts of horrible tragedies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegasgiants Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, superds77 said: Well that is one point of view. I say, let the good people of each respective state decide. Perhaps some come up with better ideas. Lastly, adding a stack of laws will not, and likely would not, prevent this sorts of horrible tragedies. If you leave your gun out and a kid uses it to kill someone you shoukd go to prison How anyone can be against that law is beyond me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 29 minutes ago, superds77 said: I think this is a worthy discussion to have at a state level. The devil is in the details. No need for a one-size fits all from DC. Let the states, rightfully, decide. Why? Are children using guns and killing themselves and others an acceptable thing in any state? If so, in which states? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superds77 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 minute ago, XavierOnassis said: 32 minutes ago, superds77 said: I think this is a worthy discussion to have at a state level. The devil is in the details. No need for a one-size fits all from DC. Let the states, rightfully, decide. Why? Are children using guns and killing themselves and others an acceptable thing in any state? If so, in which states? Because that is how our republic functions. I know most of you on the left are loathe to acknowledge this, but our constitution is the law of the land. There are enough people who care in each respective state to come up with potentially viable solutions to these types of issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegasgiants Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, superds77 said: Because that is how our republic functions. I know most of you on the left are loathe to acknowledge this, but our constitution is the law of the land. There are enough people who care in each respective state to come up with potentially viable solutions to these types of issues. Federal gun control is constitutional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, superds77 said: Well that is one point of view. I say, let the good people of each respective state decide. Perhaps some come up with better ideas. Lastly, adding a stack of laws will not, and likely would not, prevent this sorts of horrible tragedies. This is NOT a "stack of laws" it is ONE LAW. What could be a better idea than securing guns so that children cannot use them? You obviously consider yourself to be a genius, YOU tell us what would work better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROG62 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, vegasgiants said: If you did not secure your weapon and a child uses it to hurt someone shoukd you be punished? That's what this law does Tell me what is wrong with that? That's already a given...hence the crumbly parents sitting in the cage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROG62 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 40 minutes ago, vegasgiants said: There is no state in the union that has a good reason for NOT having this law It is basic common sense and obviously they cant get it done so it should be done federally thanks for your opinion, dismissed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegasgiants Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, ROG62 said: That's already a given...hence the crumbly parents sitting in the cage... You miss the point.....again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superds77 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, vegasgiants said: Federal gun control is constitutional Not all "gun control" is equal. This type of legislation will not even be able to get all democrat party members support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegasgiants Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, superds77 said: Not all "gun control" is equal. This type of legislation will not even be able to get all democrat party members support. But it should. It's common sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superds77 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: This is NOT a "stack of laws" it is ONE LAW. Yes and tell us how this "one law" will prevent these types of tragedies. 9 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: What could be a better idea than securing guns so that children cannot use them? Yes guns should be properly stored. Perhaps some PSAs are in order. 10 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: You obviously consider yourself to be a genius, YOU tell us what would work better. I do? Wow. What would work better is if the caring people of each state come up with laws that make sense for them. Laws will not prevent evil people from doing evil things. This was not some accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROG62 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, vegasgiants said: You miss the point.....again Here's the deal, "responsible" gun owners with children have their weapons and ammo secured. This includes trigger lock, gun safes, weapon / ammo separation and most of all, strict instruction / education in weapon safety and handing... like superds77 stated, this is nothing but a "feel good" bill designed to punish the masses for the few idiots that fuck up...typical gubment overreach...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I agree that it is not likely that such a common sense law be passed. I recall my neighbor who liked to brag about how he slept with a pistol under his pillow. I recall one New Year's Eve when he had a few too many and celebrated the New Year by firing hie pistol straight up into the air . I opened the door, and saw what he was doing and went back inside. The next day he was looking at the hole someone put in his windshield. How could that have happened? Once i asked him why he did not use blanks for celebratory occasions. He told me that I knew nothing about guns, especially how blanks cost a lot more than real ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROG62 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, superds77 said: Yes and tell us how this "one law" will prevent these types of tragedies. Yes guns should be properly stored. Perhaps some PSAs are in order. I do? Wow. What would work better is if the caring people of each state come up with laws that make sense for them. Laws will not prevent evil people from doing evil things. This was not some accident. FYI, compared to the libtardos here, we're all Einsteins....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Here is how this works: Joe Schmoe leaves his gun out, perhaps under his pillow. His little girl finds it and plugs her little brother, Bo schmor in the head and kills him. Then Joe gets arrested and jailed under the Put Your Guns Away law. This is in the news and other idiots who have been leaving their guns out, start putting them in a safe place. It works for the same reason Stop signs and traffic lights work. Avoid accidents and arrests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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