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The self-destructive Trump-induced insanity of the delusional and dangerous anti-vaxxers just keeps getting more and more obvious……..refusing vaccination, getting infected and then infecting others seems to be the “Republican way” these days, as Covid-19 surges again in the Trump-loving rightwingnut strongholds and rural areas……..we’ll shortly see what results the more contagious Omicron variant causes as it rapidly spreads across the country……

 

Over the weekend, CNN's Phil Mattingly put together maps of cases and hospitalizations that show Covid-19 is anything but gone. The pandemic is now undeniably affecting the less-vaccinated parts of the country more than the vaccinated portions. CNN's Deidre McPhillips looked last week at the risk of dying from Covid-19 across the US. She wrote: Since vaccines have become widely available, the average risk of dying from Covid-19 is more than 50% higher in states that voted for President Trump in 2020 than it is in states that voted for President Biden, according to a CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University. In the first 11 months of the pandemic -- from the initial surge through the winter 2020 surge, before vaccines became widely available -- the average Covid-19 death rate was about the same along party lines. Through the end of January 2021, states that voted for Trump in the 2020 election had an average of 128 Covid-19 deaths for every 100,000 people, while states that voted for Biden had an average of 127 Covid-19 deaths for every 100,000 people. More context: Since Feb. 1, red states have had an average of 116 Covid-19 deaths per 100,000 people -- 52% higher than the average of 77 deaths per 100,000 people in blue states. The five states with the worst per capita death rates in that time all voted for Trump in 2020: Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky and West Virginia.”

 
Why do Republicans seem so determined to kill off their own voters by promoting anti-science, anti-vaccination crackpot conspiracy theory nonsense? Perhaps to try to embarrass President Biden by frustrating his efforts to protect all Americans from this global Pandemic? Labeling that behavior as insanity seems very inadequate.
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the average risk of dying from Covid-19 is more than 50% higher in states that voted for President Trump in 2020 than it is in states that voted for President Biden,

Simply explained.......Trump got far more votes from a lot of different people.

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Why not follow CNN's advice which history  has proven to be correct.

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Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine now would be 'colossally stupid'

By Jen Christensen, CNN

Updated: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 15:34:16 GMT

Source: CNN

 

Vaccine experts are warning the federal government against rushing out a coronavirus vaccine before testing has shown it's both safe and effective. Decades of history show why they're right.

FDA signals vaccine could green light early

Their concern that the FDA may be moving too quickly heightened when FDA Commissioner Dr. Steven Hahn told the Financial Times that his agency could consider an emergency use authorization (EUA) for a Covid-19 vaccine before late stage clinical trials are complete if the data show strong enough evidence it would protect people.

 

The commissioner has the authority to allow unapproved medical products to be used in an emergency when there are no adequate or approved alternatives. An EUA is not the same as full approval and it can be withdrawn.

That's what happened with hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. The FDA granted an EUA to the drugs -- much praised by President Donald Trump -- on March 28. It subsequently revoked its EUA in June after studies showed they were not effective and could also potentially cause serious heart problems. 

Vaccine approval

For a vaccine to be FDA approved, scientists must gather enough data through clinical trials in large numbers of volunteers to prove it is safe and effective at protecting people against a disease. Once the data is collected, FDA advisers usually spend months considering it.

 

An EUA is much quicker. Only once before has the FDA given a vaccine this lesser standard approval of an EUA, but it was in an unusual circumstance. Soldiers had sued, claiming a mandatory anthrax vaccine made them sick, and a judge put a hold on the program. The Department of Defense asked for an EUA that then overrode the court ruling in 2005, so it could continue vaccinating military personnel -- this time on a voluntary basis.

Otherwise, vaccines have had to go through the entire clinical trial process and FDA approval process, which can take months or years. 

When the vaccine making process has been rushed, there have been bad outcomes.

The Cutter incident

On April 12, 1955 the government announced the first vaccine to protect kids against polio. Within days, labs had made thousands of lots of the vaccine. Batches made by one company, Cutter Labs, accidentally contained live polio virus and it caused an outbreak.

More than 200,000 children got the polio vaccine, but within days the government had to abandon the program.

"Forty thousand kids got polio. Some had low levels, a couple hundred were left with paralysis, and about 10 died," said Dr. Howard Markel, a pediatrician, distinguished professor, and director of the Center for the History of Medicine at the University of Michigan. The government suspended the vaccination program until it could determine what went wrong. 

Monkey trouble

However, increased oversight failed to discover another problem with the polio vaccine.

From 1955 to 1963, between 10% and 30% of polio vaccines were contaminated with simian virus 40 (SV40).

"The way they would grow the virus was on monkey tissues. These rhesus macaques were imported from India, tens of thousands of them," medical anthropologist S. Lochlann Jain said. "They were gang caged and in those conditions, the ones that didn't die on the journey, many got sick, and the viruses spread quickly," added Jain, who taught a history of vaccines course at Stanford and is working on a publication about the incident. Scientists wrongly thought the formaldehyde they used would kill the virus. "It was being transferred to millions of Americans," Jain said.

 

"Many believe this issue wasn't adequately pursued," Jain said. Some studies showed a possible link between the virus and cancer. The US Centers for Disease Control website, however, said most studies are "reassuring" and find no link. 

No current vaccines contain SV40 virus, the CDC says, and there's no evidence the contamination harmed anyone. 

The epidemic that never was

In 1976, scientists predicted a pandemic of a new strain of influenza called swine flu. More than 40 years later, some historians call it "flu epidemic that never was." 

"President Ford was basically told by his advisers, that look, we have a pandemic flu coming called swine flu that may be as bad as Spanish flu," said Michael Kinch, a professor of radiation oncology in the school of medicine at Washington University in St. Louis. His latest book, "Between Hope and Fear," explores the history of vaccines. 

"Ford was being cajoled to put forward a vaccine that was hastily put together. When you have a brand new strain situation like that, they had to do it on the fly," Kinch said.

Ford made the decision to make the immunization compulsory. 

The government launched the program in about seven months and 40 million people got vaccinated against swine flu, according to the CDC. That vaccination campaign was later linked to cases of a neurological disorder called Guillain-Barre syndrome, which can develop after an infection or, rarely, after vaccination with a live vaccine.

"Unfortunately, due to that vaccine, and the fact that it was done so hastily, there were a few hundred cases of Guillain-Barre, although it's not definitive that they were linked," Kinch said. 

The CDC said the increased risk was about 1 additional case of Gullain-Barre for every 100,000 people who got the swine flu vaccine. Due to this small association, the government stopped the program to investigate. 

"It was kind of a fiasco," Markel said. "The good news is that there never was an epidemic of swine flu. So we were safe, but that shows you what could happen."

Growing distrust in the US

It took several incidents for people to start distrusting vaccines. Even after thousands of kids got sick from the first polio vaccine in 1955, when the program restarted, parents made sure their children got vaccinated. They had clear memories of epidemics that paralyzed between 13,000 and 20,000 children every year. Some were so profoundly paralyzed that they could not even breathe easily on their own, and relied on machines called iron lungs to help them breathe.

"Parents were pushing their kids to get to the head of the line to get the polio vaccine, because they had seen epidemics every summer for years, and saw kids in iron lungs and they were terrified," Markel said.

Markel said people's attitudes started to change between 1955 and the problematic 1976 swine flu vaccination project. 

"You've got civil rights, when people see the cops beating the hell out of people on TV. You've got the Vietnam War where people start to get disgusted with the killing. You've got Watergate when the president is literally lying through his teeth," Markel said. "That led to a real distrust of authorities and federal government, and it extended to doctors and scientists. And, that's only progressed as time has gone along."

A 'colossally stupid' move

 

Markel said people's mistrust of the system makes the idea that the FDA would rush this process before late stage clinical trials are complete "colossally stupid."

"This is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard this administration say," Markel said. "All it takes is one bad side effect to basically botch a vaccine program that we desperately need against this virus. It's a prescription for disaster."

FDA Commissioner Hahn said that the vaccine decision will be based on data, not politics, but Kinch shares Markel's concern. 

 

"This could do substantial damage," Kinch said. Kinch, who is a patient in one of the vaccine trials himself, said the clinical trial process needs to be followed to the end. A too-early EUA for a vaccine could cause a "nightmare scenario," for a few reasons. 

One, the vaccine may not be safe. Two, if it is not safe, people will lose faith in vaccines. Three, if a vaccine doesn't offer complete protection, people will have a false sense of security and increase their risk. Four, if a substandard vaccine gets an EUA, a better vaccine may never get approval, because people would be reluctant to enroll in trials and risk getting a placebo instead of a vaccine.

"People are going to die unnecessarily if we take chances with this," Kinch said. "We've got to get this right."

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36 minutes ago, RebelGator said:

Trump got far more votes from a lot of different people.

 

 

Trump increased  his votes by 11 million from 2016 and  massively increasing demographics  including  Latinos  who he was supposedly racist against.  How did they not get the message?

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Why do Republicans seem so determined to kill off their own voters by promoting anti-science, anti-vaccination crackpot conspiracy theory nonsense? Perhaps to try to embarrass President Biden by frustrating his efforts to protect all Americans from this global Pandemic? Labeling that behavior as insanity seems very inadequate.

Covid is happening mostly in Blue states.

And who is the rocket scientist telling people to take ANOTHER jab of a vaccine, because the first 2 doses didn't work?

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1 hour ago, TruePatriot said:

The self-destructive Trump-induced insanity of the delusional and dangerous anti-vaxxers just keeps getting more and more obvious……..refusing vaccination, getting infected and then infecting others seems to be the “Republican way” these days, as Covid-19 surges again in the Trump-loving rightwingnut strongholds and rural areas……..we’ll shortly see what results the more contagious Omicron variant causes as it rapidly spreads across the country……

 

Over the weekend, CNN's Phil Mattingly put together maps of cases and hospitalizations that show Covid-19 is anything but gone. The pandemic is now undeniably affecting the less-vaccinated parts of the country more than the vaccinated portions. CNN's Deidre McPhillips looked last week at the risk of dying from Covid-19 across the US. She wrote: Since vaccines have become widely available, the average risk of dying from Covid-19 is more than 50% higher in states that voted for President Trump in 2020 than it is in states that voted for President Biden, according to a CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University. In the first 11 months of the pandemic -- from the initial surge through the winter 2020 surge, before vaccines became widely available -- the average Covid-19 death rate was about the same along party lines. Through the end of January 2021, states that voted for Trump in the 2020 election had an average of 128 Covid-19 deaths for every 100,000 people, while states that voted for Biden had an average of 127 Covid-19 deaths for every 100,000 people. More context: Since Feb. 1, red states have had an average of 116 Covid-19 deaths per 100,000 people -- 52% higher than the average of 77 deaths per 100,000 people in blue states. The five states with the worst per capita death rates in that time all voted for Trump in 2020: Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky and West Virginia.”

 
Why do Republicans seem so determined to kill off their own voters by promoting anti-science, anti-vaccination crackpot conspiracy theory nonsense? Perhaps to try to embarrass President Biden by frustrating his efforts to protect all Americans from this global Pandemic? Labeling that behavior as insanity seems very inadequate.

the vaccines are causing more variants, just as many scientists had predicted.  

 

 

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7 hours ago, RebelGator said:

Simply explained.......Trump got far more votes from a lot of different people.


Nope! He got a lot fewer votes than President Biden (Biden's popular vote margin over Trump tops 7 million) from a minority group of racists and conspiracy theory wackos and other delusional losers.

 

President Biden won……get over it!

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11 hours ago, TruePatriot said:

The self-destructive Trump-induced insanity of the delusional and dangerous anti-vaxxers just keeps getting more and more obvious……..refusing vaccination, getting infected and then infecting others seems to be the “Republican way” these days, as Covid-19 surges again in the Trump-loving rightwingnut strongholds and rural areas……..we’ll shortly see what results the more contagious Omicron variant causes as it rapidly spreads across the country……

 

Over the weekend, CNN's Phil Mattingly put together maps of cases and hospitalizations that show Covid-19 is anything but gone. The pandemic is now undeniably affecting the less-vaccinated parts of the country more than the vaccinated portions. CNN's Deidre McPhillips looked last week at the risk of dying from Covid-19 across the US. She wrote: Since vaccines have become widely available, the average risk of dying from Covid-19 is more than 50% higher in states that voted for President Trump in 2020 than it is in states that voted for President Biden, according to a CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University. In the first 11 months of the pandemic -- from the initial surge through the winter 2020 surge, before vaccines became widely available -- the average Covid-19 death rate was about the same along party lines. Through the end of January 2021, states that voted for Trump in the 2020 election had an average of 128 Covid-19 deaths for every 100,000 people, while states that voted for Biden had an average of 127 Covid-19 deaths for every 100,000 people. More context: Since Feb. 1, red states have had an average of 116 Covid-19 deaths per 100,000 people -- 52% higher than the average of 77 deaths per 100,000 people in blue states. The five states with the worst per capita death rates in that time all voted for Trump in 2020: Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky and West Virginia.”

 
Why do Republicans seem so determined to kill off their own voters by promoting anti-science, anti-vaccination crackpot conspiracy theory nonsense? Perhaps to try to embarrass President Biden by frustrating his efforts to protect all Americans from this global Pandemic? Labeling that behavior as insanity seems very inadequate.

So, there are absolutely  ZERO  democrats, independents and non-voters living in those states? Gullible much UAW?

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Nope! He got a lot fewer votes than President Biden (Biden's popular vote margin over Trump tops 7 million) from a minority group of racists and conspiracy theory wackos and other delusional losers.

 

President Biden won……get over it!

Do you have buyers remorse yet?   

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11 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

Why not follow CNN's advice which history  has proven to be correct.

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Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine now would be 'colossally stupid'

By Jen Christensen, CNN

Updated: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 15:34:16 GMT

Source: CNN

 

Vaccine experts are warning the federal government against rushing out a coronavirus vaccine before testing has shown it's both safe and effective. Decades of history show why they're right.

FDA signals vaccine could green light early

Their concern that the FDA may be moving too quickly heightened when FDA Commissioner Dr. Steven Hahn told the Financial Times that his agency could consider an emergency use authorization (EUA) for a Covid-19 vaccine before late stage clinical trials are complete if the data show strong enough evidence it would protect people.

 

The commissioner has the authority to allow unapproved medical products to be used in an emergency when there are no adequate or approved alternatives. An EUA is not the same as full approval and it can be withdrawn.

That's what happened with hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. The FDA granted an EUA to the drugs -- much praised by President Donald Trump -- on March 28. It subsequently revoked its EUA in June after studies showed they were not effective and could also potentially cause serious heart problems. 

Vaccine approval

For a vaccine to be FDA approved, scientists must gather enough data through clinical trials in large numbers of volunteers to prove it is safe and effective at protecting people against a disease. Once the data is collected, FDA advisers usually spend months considering it.

 

An EUA is much quicker. Only once before has the FDA given a vaccine this lesser standard approval of an EUA, but it was in an unusual circumstance. Soldiers had sued, claiming a mandatory anthrax vaccine made them sick, and a judge put a hold on the program. The Department of Defense asked for an EUA that then overrode the court ruling in 2005, so it could continue vaccinating military personnel -- this time on a voluntary basis.

Otherwise, vaccines have had to go through the entire clinical trial process and FDA approval process, which can take months or years. 

When the vaccine making process has been rushed, there have been bad outcomes.

The Cutter incident

On April 12, 1955 the government announced the first vaccine to protect kids against polio. Within days, labs had made thousands of lots of the vaccine. Batches made by one company, Cutter Labs, accidentally contained live polio virus and it caused an outbreak.

More than 200,000 children got the polio vaccine, but within days the government had to abandon the program.

"Forty thousand kids got polio. Some had low levels, a couple hundred were left with paralysis, and about 10 died," said Dr. Howard Markel, a pediatrician, distinguished professor, and director of the Center for the History of Medicine at the University of Michigan. The government suspended the vaccination program until it could determine what went wrong. 

Monkey trouble

However, increased oversight failed to discover another problem with the polio vaccine.

From 1955 to 1963, between 10% and 30% of polio vaccines were contaminated with simian virus 40 (SV40).

"The way they would grow the virus was on monkey tissues. These rhesus macaques were imported from India, tens of thousands of them," medical anthropologist S. Lochlann Jain said. "They were gang caged and in those conditions, the ones that didn't die on the journey, many got sick, and the viruses spread quickly," added Jain, who taught a history of vaccines course at Stanford and is working on a publication about the incident. Scientists wrongly thought the formaldehyde they used would kill the virus. "It was being transferred to millions of Americans," Jain said.

 

"Many believe this issue wasn't adequately pursued," Jain said. Some studies showed a possible link between the virus and cancer. The US Centers for Disease Control website, however, said most studies are "reassuring" and find no link. 

No current vaccines contain SV40 virus, the CDC says, and there's no evidence the contamination harmed anyone. 

The epidemic that never was

In 1976, scientists predicted a pandemic of a new strain of influenza called swine flu. More than 40 years later, some historians call it "flu epidemic that never was." 

"President Ford was basically told by his advisers, that look, we have a pandemic flu coming called swine flu that may be as bad as Spanish flu," said Michael Kinch, a professor of radiation oncology in the school of medicine at Washington University in St. Louis. His latest book, "Between Hope and Fear," explores the history of vaccines. 

"Ford was being cajoled to put forward a vaccine that was hastily put together. When you have a brand new strain situation like that, they had to do it on the fly," Kinch said.

Ford made the decision to make the immunization compulsory. 

The government launched the program in about seven months and 40 million people got vaccinated against swine flu, according to the CDC. That vaccination campaign was later linked to cases of a neurological disorder called Guillain-Barre syndrome, which can develop after an infection or, rarely, after vaccination with a live vaccine.

"Unfortunately, due to that vaccine, and the fact that it was done so hastily, there were a few hundred cases of Guillain-Barre, although it's not definitive that they were linked," Kinch said. 

The CDC said the increased risk was about 1 additional case of Gullain-Barre for every 100,000 people who got the swine flu vaccine. Due to this small association, the government stopped the program to investigate. 

"It was kind of a fiasco," Markel said. "The good news is that there never was an epidemic of swine flu. So we were safe, but that shows you what could happen."

Growing distrust in the US

It took several incidents for people to start distrusting vaccines. Even after thousands of kids got sick from the first polio vaccine in 1955, when the program restarted, parents made sure their children got vaccinated. They had clear memories of epidemics that paralyzed between 13,000 and 20,000 children every year. Some were so profoundly paralyzed that they could not even breathe easily on their own, and relied on machines called iron lungs to help them breathe.

"Parents were pushing their kids to get to the head of the line to get the polio vaccine, because they had seen epidemics every summer for years, and saw kids in iron lungs and they were terrified," Markel said.

Markel said people's attitudes started to change between 1955 and the problematic 1976 swine flu vaccination project. 

"You've got civil rights, when people see the cops beating the hell out of people on TV. You've got the Vietnam War where people start to get disgusted with the killing. You've got Watergate when the president is literally lying through his teeth," Markel said. "That led to a real distrust of authorities and federal government, and it extended to doctors and scientists. And, that's only progressed as time has gone along."

A 'colossally stupid' move

 

Markel said people's mistrust of the system makes the idea that the FDA would rush this process before late stage clinical trials are complete "colossally stupid."

"This is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard this administration say," Markel said. "All it takes is one bad side effect to basically botch a vaccine program that we desperately need against this virus. It's a prescription for disaster."

FDA Commissioner Hahn said that the vaccine decision will be based on data, not politics, but Kinch shares Markel's concern. 

 

"This could do substantial damage," Kinch said. Kinch, who is a patient in one of the vaccine trials himself, said the clinical trial process needs to be followed to the end. A too-early EUA for a vaccine could cause a "nightmare scenario," for a few reasons. 

One, the vaccine may not be safe. Two, if it is not safe, people will lose faith in vaccines. Three, if a vaccine doesn't offer complete protection, people will have a false sense of security and increase their risk. Four, if a substandard vaccine gets an EUA, a better vaccine may never get approval, because people would be reluctant to enroll in trials and risk getting a placebo instead of a vaccine.

"People are going to die unnecessarily if we take chances with this," Kinch said. "We've got to get this right."

No turning back now 

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13 hours ago, TruePatriot said:

The self-destructive Trump-induced insanity of the delusional and dangerous anti-vaxxers just keeps getting more and more obvious……..refusing vaccination, getting infected and then infecting others seems to be the “Republican way” these days, as Covid-19 surges again in the Trump-loving rightwingnut strongholds and rural areas……..we’ll shortly see what results the more contagious Omicron variant causes as it rapidly spreads across the country……

 

Over the weekend, CNN's Phil Mattingly put together maps of cases and hospitalizations that show Covid-19 is anything but gone. The pandemic is now undeniably affecting the less-vaccinated parts of the country more than the vaccinated portions. CNN's Deidre McPhillips looked last week at the risk of dying from Covid-19 across the US. She wrote: Since vaccines have become widely available, the average risk of dying from Covid-19 is more than 50% higher in states that voted for President Trump in 2020 than it is in states that voted for President Biden, according to a CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University. In the first 11 months of the pandemic -- from the initial surge through the winter 2020 surge, before vaccines became widely available -- the average Covid-19 death rate was about the same along party lines. Through the end of January 2021, states that voted for Trump in the 2020 election had an average of 128 Covid-19 deaths for every 100,000 people, while states that voted for Biden had an average of 127 Covid-19 deaths for every 100,000 people. More context: Since Feb. 1, red states have had an average of 116 Covid-19 deaths per 100,000 people -- 52% higher than the average of 77 deaths per 100,000 people in blue states. The five states with the worst per capita death rates in that time all voted for Trump in 2020: Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky and West Virginia.”

 
Why do Republicans seem so determined to kill off their own voters by promoting anti-science, anti-vaccination crackpot conspiracy theory nonsense? Perhaps to try to embarrass President Biden by frustrating his efforts to protect all Americans from this global Pandemic? Labeling that behavior as insanity seems very inadequate.

 

Stupid communist crap on western TV programing that very few people ever view.  The vaccines are a waste of time in a situation of real biological warfare where people need low cost broad spectrum antiviral-antibiotic and anti parasitic treatments.

 

  An individual pissant politician or small executive group does not make life and death decisions for the person/persons of a local USA population after their speech is removed from the Churches, news media and street corners.


It is still possible to not make all the wrong choices in life, become afraid and take subsidies money to poison your own population.

 

The Amish are continuing to have their best year in 2021.

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Stupid communist crap on western TV programing that very few people ever view.  The vaccines are a waste of time in a situation of real biological warfare where people need low cost broad spectrum antiviral-antibiotic and anti parasitic treatments.

 

  An individual pissant politician or small executive group does not make life and death decisions for the person/persons of a local USA population after their speech is removed from the Churches, news media and street corners.


It is still possible to not make all the wrong choices in life, become afraid and take subsidies money to poison your own population.

 

The Amish are continuing to have their best year in 2021.


Gibber on, Chumpo. Spew meaningless nonsense like you always do. You are pathetic!

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17 hours ago, Golfboy said:

Covid is happening mostly in Blue states.

 

I see you are just as delusional and insane as ever, Goofball.

 

In reality………

People in counties that voted Trump more likely to die from Covid – study

The Guardian


People in counties that voted for Donald Trump are nearly three times more likely to die from Covid-19 than those who live in counties that voted for Joe Biden, according to a new study by National Public Radio. NPR examined deaths per 100,000 people in about 3,000 counties across the US since May 2021. According to NPR, 1 May was chosen as the start date as it is roughly the time when vaccines became universally available to adults. The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden. The study also found that counties that voted for Trump by an even higher percentage had lower vaccination rates and higher Covid-19 death rates. Charles Gaba, an independent analyst who helped review NPR’s methodology, said that in October, the reddest 10th of the country saw death rates six times higher than the bluest 10th. People in rural Republican areas, and white Republicans in general, tend to be more resistant to getting vaccinated. According to the latest data from the Kaiser Family Fund, the rate of Republican Covid vaccination has plateaued at 59%, while 91% of Democrats have been vaccinated. Republicans have been found to be more likely to believe misinformation about Covid and vaccines. According to KFF, 94% of Republicans think one or more false statements about Covid and vaccines might be true, and 46% believe four or more statements might be true. Only 14% of Democrats believe four or more false statements about the virus.

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Golfboy said:

And who is the rocket scientist telling people to take ANOTHER jab of a vaccine, because the first 2 doses didn't work?


Why do idiots like you resent highly educated scientists who understand things far better than you do?

 

Face the fact that you are just too stupid and ignorant to understand what is happening.

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It just blows my mind that there are people out there that are dumb enough to buy this bullshit.  

 

 

If the mRNA jab is so great, why the reformulations?

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If the mRNA jab is so great, why the reformulations?

I'm cool with them tuning the vax, but there should probably be a legitimate reason for one.   Omicron is a 2 day thing where you have muscle aches.    Do we need a vax for that anymore than we do for a common cold strain?   If government wasn't footing the bill, would the pharmaceutical companies even try?

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14 minutes ago, TruePatriot said:

 

I see you are just as delusional and insane as ever, Goofball.

 

In reality………

People in counties that voted Trump more likely to die from Covid – study

The Guardian


People in counties that voted for Donald Trump are nearly three times more likely to die from Covid-19 than those who live in counties that voted for Joe Biden, according to a new study by National Public Radio. NPR examined deaths per 100,000 people in about 3,000 counties across the US since May 2021. According to NPR, 1 May was chosen as the start date as it is roughly the time when vaccines became universally available to adults. The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden. The study also found that counties that voted for Trump by an even higher percentage had lower vaccination rates and higher Covid-19 death rates. Charles Gaba, an independent analyst who helped review NPR’s methodology, said that in October, the reddest 10th of the country saw death rates six times higher than the bluest 10th. People in rural Republican areas, and white Republicans in general, tend to be more resistant to getting vaccinated. According to the latest data from the Kaiser Family Fund, the rate of Republican Covid vaccination has plateaued at 59%, while 91% of Democrats have been vaccinated. Republicans have been found to be more likely to believe misinformation about Covid and vaccines. According to KFF, 94% of Republicans think one or more false statements about Covid and vaccines might be true, and 46% believe four or more statements might be true. Only 14% of Democrats believe four or more false statements about the virus.

 

 

 

 

So, there are absolutely  ZERO  democrats, independents and non-voters living in those states? Gullible much UAW?

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26 minutes ago, TruePatriot said:


Nope! You are just a delusional sore loser!……like Trump!

 

19 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

the statistical anomalies say otherwise  you mental midget


Nope! Your crackpot delusions “say otherwise”…….but you lost all connection to reality a long time ago.

 

In the real world………

 

6 conspiracy theories about the 2020 election – debunked

CBS NEWS

BY LI COHEN

JANUARY 15, 2021 

 

On the day Congress officially counted the electoral votes making Joe Biden the next president, chants of "Stop the Steal" echoed through the U.S. Capitol. The deadly assault followed months of President Trump's insistence that Mr. Biden's win could only be explained by rampant fraud, and he encouraged his supporters to demand a different result. But none of the claims of widespread fraud or election theft hold up under scrutiny. Election officials around the country and the Trump administration's own attorney general and cybersecurity experts verified the election was the "most secure in American history." All of the lawsuits claiming otherwise were rejected by state and federal courts. Here is a look at some of the most common conspiracy claims that were used to try to undermine the election results, and what experts have to say about their validity.

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7 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

So, there are absolutely  ZERO  democrats, independents and non-voters living in those states? Gullible much UAW?


Nope! But there are majorities of moronic, anti-science Trump voters in those states and counties who are rejecting the relative safety of vaccination protection for reasons that are quite insane……just like you.

 

As the article I posted said: 

Charles Gaba, an independent analyst who helped review NPR’s methodology, said that in October, the reddest 10th of the country saw death rates six times higher than the bluest 10th. People in rural Republican areas, and white Republicans in general, tend to be more resistant to getting vaccinated. According to the latest data from the Kaiser Family Fund, the rate of Republican Covid vaccination has plateaued at 59%, while 91% of Democrats have been vaccinated.

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