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30 minutes ago, FredH said:

Who is to say the comments of vaccine issues are lies?


More clear evidence of your utter stupidity!
 

The answer to your clueless question about pushing vaccine disinformation is: 

All of the sane people in this country whose IQ is higher than normal room temperature.

 

That eliminates you on both counts, FuckHeadFred.

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11 minutes ago, FredH said:

Not to me I have already had it and so have at least 90 million Americans.

Trump also had Covid and infected most of the White House.

THEN he got vaccinated. So if you admire Trump, why don't you follow his lead, Fred?

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6 minutes ago, JinnMartini said:

I have to use pampers every day!

 

But I have to steal them because I’m such a broke-ass retard, I just can’t afford them.


That’s pretty much what everybody sorta figured when you started posting here, JinnedUpMoron.

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22 minutes ago, TruePatriot said:


More clear evidence of your utter stupidity!
 

The answer to your clueless question about pushing vaccine disinformation is: 

All of the sane people in this country whose IQ is higher than normal room temperature.

 

That eliminates you on both counts, FuckHeadFred.

Like I said retard, who is to say the problems with the vaccines are lies? Surely not the WH staff. Might be good of you to try to use your mind and tell us why suddenly there is a super push to vaccinate everyone when 1/3 of the population has already had it and have natural antibodies, which are better than the synthetic antibodies the MRNA vaccines produce. Do you actually "think"😆 the Biden administration is trustworthy?

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24 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

Trump also had Covid and infected most of the White House.

THEN he got vaccinated. So if you admire Trump, why don't you follow his lead, Fred?

Hey retard I already had it. That and it is ridiculous to say Trump infected most of the WH. I am sure some leftrat infected the WH staff.

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11 minutes ago, TruePatriot said:


That’s pretty much what everybody sorta figured when you started posting here, JinnedUpMoron.

Well used toiletpaper, I have not seen anything that looks like your IQ is greater than moron level.

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5 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

Let us all  imagine Jinn, aka "Poppa Wheelie" in his wheelchair, invading a store to steal Pampers with a dozen yappy Chihuahuas surrounding him.

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You are an idiot.

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7 minutes ago, FredH said:

Like I said retard, who is to say the problems with the vaccines are lies?

 

All of the doctors and medical scientists, you sorry-ass smuck.

 


 

 

7 minutes ago, FredH said:

Surely not the WH staff. Might be good of you to try to use your mind and tell us why suddenly there is a super push to vaccinate everyone when 1/3 of the population has already had it and have natural antibodies, which are better than the synthetic antibodies the MRNA vaccines produce. Do you actually "think"😆 the Biden administration is trustworthy?


You and your questions are both confused and stupid, FuckHeadFred. And you lie!

Immune Response From mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Is More Robust Than Natural Infection

The antibody response induced by mRNA vaccination against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is stronger and more variable than that of natural infection, a new study found. “MRNA vaccine induced antibody levels are spectacular and appear rapidly within a few days after vaccination,” corresponding author Philip Felgner, PhD, professor in residence and director of the Vaccine R&D Center at the University of California, Irvine told Contagion. “Ab (antibody) levels induced by the vaccine are much higher than levels induced by natural exposure and infection,” Felgner said. “The vaccine also induces cross reactive Abs against other novel CoV strains that are not induced by natural exposure and infection. This offers hope that the vaccine will be effective against emerging virus variants that are circulating around the world.

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7 minutes ago, TruePatriot said:

 

All of the doctors and medical scientists, you sorry-ass smuck.

 


 

 


You and your questions are both confused and stupid, FuckHeadFred. And you lie!

Immune Response From mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Is More Robust Than Natural Infection

The antibody response induced by mRNA vaccination against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is stronger and more variable than that of natural infection, a new study found. “MRNA vaccine induced antibody levels are spectacular and appear rapidly within a few days after vaccination,” corresponding author Philip Felgner, PhD, professor in residence and director of the Vaccine R&D Center at the University of California, Irvine told Contagion. “Ab (antibody) levels induced by the vaccine are much higher than levels induced by natural exposure and infection,” Felgner said. “The vaccine also induces cross reactive Abs against other novel CoV strains that are not induced by natural exposure and infection. This offers hope that the vaccine will be effective against emerging virus variants that are circulating around the world.

^^^^^doesn't realize that this could actually be a bad thing.    

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33 minutes ago, FredH said:

I have not seen anything that looks like your IQ is greater than moron level.


How do you imagine that you would be able to recognize anyone’s superior intelligence when you are dumber than a retarded clam, FuckHeadFred? You don’t even have the mental capacity to recognize that you are an imbecile.

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37 minutes ago, TruePatriot said:


How do you imagine that you would be able to recognize anyone’s superior intelligence when you are dumber than a retarded clam, FuckHeadFred? You don’t even have the mental capacity to recognize that you are an imbecile.

"Ab levels induced by the vaccine are much higher than levels induced by natural exposure and infection,” Felgner said. “The vaccine also induces cross reactive Abs against other novel CoV strains that are not induced by natural exposure and infection. This offers hope that the vaccine will be effective against emerging virus variants that are circulating around the world.”

 

 

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5 hours ago, Scout said:

Majority of Covid misinformation came from 12 people, report finds

CCDH finds ‘disinformation dozen’ have combined following of 59 million people across multiple social media platforms

 

The vast majority of Covid-19 anti-vaccine misinformation and conspiracy theories originated from just 12 people, a report by the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) cited by the White House this week found.

 

 

CCDH, a UK/US non-profit and non-governmental organization, found in March that these 12 online personalities they dubbed the “disinformation dozen” have a combined following of 59 million people across multiple social media platforms, with Facebook having the largest impact. CCDH analyzed 812,000 Facebook posts and tweets and found 65% came from the disinformation dozen. Vivek Murthy, US surgeon general, and Joe Biden focused on misinformation around vaccines this week as a driving force of the virus spreading.

 

On Facebook alone, the dozen are responsible for 73% of all anti-vaccine content, though the vaccines have been deemed safe and effective by the US government and its regulatory agencies. And 95% of the Covid misinformation reported on these platforms were not removed.

 

Among the dozen are physicians that have embraced pseudoscience, a bodybuilder, a wellness blogger, a religious zealot, and, most notably Robert F Kennedy Jr, the nephew of John F Kennedy who has also linked vaccines to autism and 5G broadband cellular networks to the coronavirus pandemic.

 

 

Kennedy was since removed from Instagram, which Facebook owns, but not from Facebook itself.

“Facebook, Google and Twitter have put policies into place to prevent the spread of vaccine misinformation; yet to date, all have failed to satisfactorily enforce those policies,” wrote CCDH’s CEO, Imran Ahmed, in the report. “All have been particularly ineffective at removing harmful and dangerous misinformation about coronavirus vaccines.”

 

Although platforms have since taken measures to remove many posts and even remove three of the 12 from one platform, the CCDH is calling on Facebook and Instagram, Twitter and YouTube to completely deplatform the disinformation dozen they believe are dangerous and instrumental in creating vaccine hesitancy at a crucial moment in the pandemic.

 

“Updated policies and statements hold little value unless they are strongly and consistently enforced,” the report said. “With the vast majority of harmful content being spread by a select number of accounts, removing those few most dangerous individuals and groups can significantly reduce the amount of disinformation being spread across platforms.”

 

The right thinks everyone should be allowed to say whatever they want, because people can spot disinformation easily.

 

Then they repost disinformation endlessly and talk about how it's all true and anyone who doesn't believe it is stupid and delusional. 

 

Conservatism is a mental disorder.

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52 minutes ago, crazyhole said:

"Ab levels induced by the vaccine are much higher than levels induced by natural exposure and infection,” Felgner said. “The vaccine also induces cross reactive Abs against other novel CoV strains that are not induced by natural exposure and infection. This offers hope that the vaccine will be effective against emerging virus variants that are circulating around the world.”

 

WTF... a vaccine that is effective against ALL emerging virus variants IS a good thing. 

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1 hour ago, crazyhole said:

^^^^^doesn't realize that this could actually be a bad thing.    

Or that he actually thinks the WH staff are Doctors and scientists! Too funny. This guy needs professional help.

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4 minutes ago, Toldya said:

 

WTF... a vaccine that is effective against ALL emerging virus variants IS a good thing. 

It's the basis of the warnings that mRNA vaccines may lead to ADE.   The immune response to a virus can kill you, and a lot of the time it's the reason why someone dies.   Catch a strain of the coronavirus common cold and your body may overreact, leading to bacterial infections like strep or pneumonia.   

 

Nobody knows if it'll happen with this one, but there's a reason that they have been warning that it could happen.  

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49 minutes ago, crazyhole said:

It's the basis of the warnings that mRNA vaccines may lead to ADE.   The immune response to a virus can kill you, and a lot of the time it's the reason why someone dies.   Catch a strain of the coronavirus common cold and your body may overreact, leading to bacterial infections like strep or pneumonia.   

 

Nobody knows if it'll happen with this one, but there's a reason that they have been warning that it could happen.  

 

Covid kills people with weaker immune systems (the old or people with underlying conditions). If immune responses were responsible, younger, healthier people would be dying instead.

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2 minutes ago, Toldya said:

 

Covid kills people with weaker immune systems (the old or people with underlying conditions). If immune responses were responsible, younger, healthier people would be dying instead.

Ugh.    Does covid cause you to have a fever or is it your immune response to covid?

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16 minutes ago, Toldya said:

 

Covid kills people with weaker immune systems (the old or people with underlying conditions). If immune responses were responsible, younger, healthier people would be dying instead.

 

 

you  have no idea what you are talking about

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4 hours ago, crazyhole said:

Ugh.    Does covid cause you to have a fever or is it your immune response to covid?

 

Ugh yourself, dummy.

 

Obviously the immune response causes the fever, but once again, you're not responding to my point.

 

Is covid primarily killing young, healthy people with strong immune systems or older unhealthier people with weak immune systems?

 

Autopsies are revealing the virus itself is at least partially responsible... and obviously, if it were as simple as you're making it out to be, covid would be more like Spanish flu, where primarily healthy people with stronger immune systems were dying from it.

 

https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2021/04/29/covid-autopsy-study

 

What was pretty fascinating was we could see the damage at the cellular level, one cell at a time. We observed the destruction of a cell type called AT1, which are important cells that enable you to breathe and exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide. These cells were infected and dying.

The lungs have another type of cell called AT2. They can convert themselves into AT1 cells to replenish cells that might die naturally or due to damage. But in COVID-19, this process is stopped midway. So, then it looks like the body, in a last attempt to repair the lung, turns to another cell type in the lung called progenitor cells. These are like stem cells and serve as an emergency reserve to help repair damage in the lung.

So, we think the damage from the virus could be outpacing the lung’s ability to heal itself, leading to lung failure. We also see a lot of immune cells in the lung, and their response to fight the virus is probably contributing to collateral tissue damage.

We also looked at the heart in this study. Some patients sustained significant heart damage, but we didn’t find any viral RNA in the heart. It’s unclear if by the time we studied the heart tissue, heart cells already cleared the virus or the heart simply suffered collateral damage from the disease. So, we need follow-up studies.

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23 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

you  have no idea what you are talking about

 

Literally all you ever post is this shit. No ideas, no arguments, nothing of substance... just 'OMG I always win and ur dumb'. 

 

How in the fuck was Duck615 banned but not you? You're almost exactly the same, you just post different forms of meaningless bullshit.

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