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21 hours ago, drvoke said:

1. COVID is a hoax. (It is just a bad flu

 

That's a lie

 

NO ONE said that except the lying left trying to attribute it to Trump and conservatives

 

 

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And then they finish off the rest with Jewish space lasers. Then the lizard people can take over because of global warming. 

How do we know how many people died of COVID in China? They could still be dying in droves for all we know. Don't tell me you believe the news that comes out of their country.

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1 hour ago, Dontlooknow said:

Why would the government try so hard to save lives though?

It didn't. It over counted covid deaths, and it CAUSED covid deaths. The governor of new york is under criminal investigation for it. 

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21 hours ago, theLion said:

How about, it’s a naturally occurring virus mutation that crossed from animal to human and went worldwide almost at once. 

 

Sure, that's the narrative the left-wing propaganda machine pumped down your eager throat

 

And you swallowed every drop like a good little girl didn't ya?

 

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2 hours ago, Toldya said:

You don't consolidate power by destabilizing the society you already control.

 

But they didn't control us before Covid like they do now. Not a third

 

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18 minutes ago, Common said:

 

Anyhoo,, Covid IS a hoax, in that its effect has been deliberately exaggerated by orders of magnitude. Do you genuinely subscribe to the notion that there were zero flu deaths in 2021? That is preposterous on its face. Yet that is the math being handed us, in order to exaggerate covid deaths. Likewise, people decapitated in motorcycle accidents or killed in car crashes were counted as covid deaths - and dismissing these frauds as anomalies is lazy - ESPECIALLY in light of the first flu season in history producing zero flu deaths. 

 

COVID is not a hoax. It has killed millions worldwide. The entire world is not  "in on it." The faulty statistic is regular flu deaths. They have never been counted. They are based on statistical models predicting how many people usually die during any given year. How many people do you personally know that got very ill from COVID? Me, I know more than a few. How many people do you personally know that died from an ordinary flu? Me, not one. Now you can die from complications due to pneumonia, but this is often associated with old age and other natural causes.

 

 

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Likewise, forcing the public to wear masks which came in a box that says ON THE LABBEL, "Not effective against transmission of viruses" adds to the evidence that there is a concerted official dishonesty at work within the covid "pandemic." Mind you, calling a disease a pandemic has medical meaning - and exaggerating the malady's fatality could take it from a nuisance virus to a pandemic. Also, forcing people to remain indoors is precisely what it takes to cause MORE, not less of the disease. The reason Winter time is "flu season" is not that there is no such thing as flu in Summer. Rather, it's because people spend more time indoors in the Winter. Also, they don't get enough Vitamin D, which sets them up for Cytokine Storm, which is actually how viruses kill most people. During Summer, flu is extant, but symptoms rarely manifest, as people's habits and the strength of their immune systems differ seasonally.

 

Masks and social distancing work. They are not 100% effective, but better than nothing.

 

 

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So there are multiple layers of fraud detectable in the covid "pandemic" - and that's only the half of it. There is also this:

 

Both hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are virtually 100% effective against the disease in vitro, and both are already known to be safe in vivo. The predictable and legal result of these FACTS is that the medical protocols REQUIRE that these substances be put at the FRONT OF THE LINE for human trials, as they are already ptoven over decades to be quite safe, unlike the experimental "vaccines," whose in vivo safety is yet to be determined, But the MEDICAL protocols were side-tracked in favor of the PROFIT protocols, which call for the patent-medicines to get top priority, with pubic safety taking a back seat. 

 

So there are SOME among many dozens of elements of fraud. One more, before I address the china-as-perpetrator narrative, is the recent change in how the CDC COUNTS covid cases. Now that the vaccines have been widely inflicted on an unsuspecting public, incidents of reinfection are being downplayed with the same dishonesty as they were overplayed during the run up. The CDC changed the PCR thresholds to virtually eliminate new covid cases among the vaxxed, while leaving the over-broad PCR thresholds intact for the unvaxxed, creating a two-tier system of testing designed to cause false-confirmation of the efficacy of wall street's lucrative "vaccines" which were foisted on the public by captive agencies of the federal and state governments. Here is a link so that you can study up. If you do not like the source, fact check the claims against the links which the source provides to the pertinent government agencies it exposes:

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among

 

 

Vaccinations work. Ask the measles and polio viruses. They'll tell you their sad tale of woe.

 

 

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As to the china-as-perpetrator narrative, if one accepts the above statements as true, one has a duty to ask, who planned this? A china connection is not at all unreasonable. It seems to be the straightest line in connecting the dots.

 

The pandemic CAN be a hoax, and the perpetration CAN involve china. It would CERTAINLY require intersectionality within our own government. That ought to be obvious. But calling the pandemic a hoax is NOT tantamount to clearing china in the hoax, by any stretch of the imagination 

 

This is not to defend fixed noise. It's to answer the OP's premise that it must be one or the other - that the two narratives are mutually exclusive. They are not mutually exclusive in the least. 

 

 

I am open to the possibility that the virus escaped from a lab. That it was purposely released on their own population is absurd.

 

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3 minutes ago, drvoke said:

 

COVID is not a hoax. It has killed millions worldwide. The entire world is not  "in on it." The faulty statistic is regular flu deaths. They have never been counted. They are based on statistical models predicting how many people usually die during any given year. How many people do you personally know that got very ill from COVID? Me, I know more than a few. How many people do you personally know that died from an ordinary flu? Me, not one. Now you can die from complications due to pneumonia, but this is often associated with old age and other natural causes.

 

 

 

Masks and social distancing work. They are not 100% effective, but better than nothing.

 

 

 

 

Vaccinations work. Ask the measles and polio viruses. They'll tell you their sad tale of woe.

 

 

 

 

I am open to the possibility that the virus escaped from a lab. That it was purposely released on their own population is absurd.

 

Hey, your narrative and anecdotes are equal to my facts, no doubt. 

 

Great arguments restatements of faith. 

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21 hours ago, drvoke said:

 

Media Watchdog Names Sean Hannity as a Chief Source of Coronavirus  Misinformation | Scene and Heard: Scene's News Blog

 

 

 

Fox News has been pushing two narratives in contradiction to each other:

1. COVID is a hoax. (It is just a bad flu.)

and

2. COVID is a bioweapon created in China with Fauci's funding.

Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Choose one and stick to it.

 

 # 2  !

 

Simple question  . . .  why has China vanquished the Corona virus within months  . . .  while the rest of the world is still wrestling with it ?

 

Simple answer  . . .  because they unleashed it onto the world only AFTER  they had found an antidote to it !

 

And to keep up appearances they just let a few thousand of their own die of it  . . .  in a population of more than 1 and a half billion !

 

You must be blind not to see the incongruity  . . .  or real dumb !

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2 minutes ago, JinnMartini said:

 

 # 2  !

 

Simple question  . . .  why has China vanquished the Corona virus within months  . . .  while the rest of the world is still wrestling with it ?

 

Simple answer  . . .  because they unleashed it onto the world only AFTER  they had found an antidote to it !

 

And to keep up appearances they just let a few thousand of their own die of it  . . .  in a population of more than 1 and a half billion !

 

You must be blind not to see the incongruity  . . .  or real dumb !

 

That's possible. Another possibility is that they would weld people into their homes and apartments until they got through the quarantine process.

 

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10 minutes ago, drvoke said:

 

That's possible. Another possibility is that they would weld people into their homes and apartments until they got through the quarantine process.

 

 

So why is the rest of the world   -or most of it-   . . .  after more than a year  . . .  not yet corona-free ?

 

Trump really can't be held responsible  for the fucking rest of the world still in the grip of Corona !

 

India  . . .  Brazil  . . . to name two !

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33 minutes ago, drvoke said:

That it was purposely released on their own population is absurd.

 

Not really !

 

In fact  . . .  quite probable !

 

Considering the limited amount of victims  . . .  

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4 minutes ago, JinnMartini said:

 

So why is the rest of the world   -or most of it-   . . .  after more than a year  . . .  not yet corona-free ?

 

Trump really can't be held responsible  for the fucking rest of the world still in the grip of Corona !

 

India  . . .  Brazil  . . . to name two !

 

Trump's responsibility is limited to the U.S.  On the one hand, he closed travel from China ahead of the advice of experts. He was proven correct. That he dissuaded people from wearing masks is problematic, but he had obligations to our economic health, not just personal health, as does Fauci.

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1 minute ago, JinnMartini said:

 

Not really !

 

In fact  . . .  quite probable !

 

Considering the limited amount of victims  . . .  

 

How do we know how many people died of COVID in China? They could still be dying in droves for all we know. Don't tell me you believe the news that comes out of their country.

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1 hour ago, Common said:

I beg to differ, sir.

 

I am not a con and I never watch fox news, with the exception of the occasional youtube video on some specific subject of interest that someone proffers in evidence of an argument - say, something by tucker, who for reasons unknown has been granted immunity for stepping outside the fixed noise box on subjects of significant moment. An example of this was his brutal takedown of trump's missile attacks on Syria, wherein he juxtaposed trump's campaign rhetoric with his specific actions vis a vis the sovereign nation state of Syria. 

 

Anyhoo,, Covid IS a hoax, in that its effect has been deliberately exaggerated by orders of magnitude. Do you genuinely subscribe to the notion that there were zero flu deaths in 2021? That is preposterous on its face. Yet that is the math being handed us, in order to exaggerate covid deaths. Likewise, people decapitated in motorcycle accidents or killed in car crashes were counted as covid deaths - and dismissing these frauds as anomalies is lazy - ESPECIALLY in light of the first flu season in history producing zero flu deaths. 

 

Likewise, forcing the public to wear masks which came in a box that says ON THE LABBEL, "Not effective against transmission of viruses" adds to the evidence that there is a concerted official dishonesty at work within the covid "pandemic." Mind you, calling a disease a pandemic has medical meaning - and exaggerating the malady's fatality could take it from a nuisance virus to a pandemic. Also, forcing people to remain indoors is precisely what it takes to cause MORE, not less of the disease. The reason Winter time is "flu season" is not that there is no such thing as flu in Summer. Rather, it's because people spend more time indoors in the Winter. Also, they don't get enough Vitamin D, which sets them up for Cytokine Storm, which is actually how viruses kill most people. During Summer, flu is extant, but symptoms rarely manifest, as people's habits and the strength of their immune systems differ seasonally.

 

So there are multiple layers of fraud detectable in the covid "pandemic" - and that's only the half of it. There is also this:

 

Both hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are virtually 100% effective against the disease in vitro, and both are already known to be safe in vivo. The predictable and legal result of these FACTS is that the medical protocols REQUIRE that these substances be put at the FRONT OF THE LINE for human trials, as they are already ptoven over decades to be quite safe, unlike the experimental "vaccines," whose in vivo safety is yet to be determined, But the MEDICAL protocols were side-tracked in favor of the PROFIT protocols, which call for the patent-medicines to get top priority, with pubic safety taking a back seat. 

 

So there are SOME among many dozens of elements of fraud. One more, before I address the china-as-perpetrator narrative, is the recent change in how the CDC COUNTS covid cases. Now that the vaccines have been widely inflicted on an unsuspecting public, incidents of reinfection are being downplayed with the same dishonesty as they were overplayed during the run up. The CDC changed the PCR thresholds to virtually eliminate new covid cases among the vaxxed, while leaving the over-broad PCR thresholds intact for the unvaxxed, creating a two-tier system of testing designed to cause false-confirmation of the efficacy of wall street's lucrative "vaccines" which were foisted on the public by captive agencies of the federal and state governments. Here is a link so that you can study up. If you do not like the source, fact check the claims against the links which the source provides to the pertinent government agencies it exposes:

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among

 

As to the china-as-perpetrator narrative, if one accepts the above statements as true, one has a duty to ask, who planned this? A china connection is not at all unreasonable. It seems to be the straightest line in connecting the dots.

 

The pandemic CAN be a hoax, and the perpetration CAN involve china. It would CERTAINLY require intersectionality within our own government. That ought to be obvious. But calling the pandemic a hoax is NOT tantamount to clearing china in the hoax, by any stretch of the imagination 

 

This is not to defend fixed noise. It's to answer the OP's premise that it must be one or the other - that the two narratives are mutually exclusive. They are not mutually exclusive in the least. 

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45 minutes ago, JinnMartini said:

 

 # 2  !

 

Simple question  . . .  why has China vanquished the Corona virus within months  . . .  while the rest of the world is still wrestling with it ?

 

Simple answer  . . .  because they unleashed it onto the world only AFTER  they had found an antidote to it !

 

And to keep up appearances they just let a few thousand of their own die of it  . . .  in a population of more than 1 and a half billion !

 

You must be blind not to see the incongruity  . . .  or real dumb !

Problem is; we can't believe a word  china says about it!

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28 minutes ago, drvoke said:

 

Trump's responsibility is limited to the U.S.  On the one hand, he closed travel from China ahead of the advice of experts. He was proven correct. That he dissuaded people from wearing masks is problematic, but he had obligations to our economic health, not just personal health, as does Fauci.

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20 minutes ago, nuckin futz said:

Problem is; we can't believe a word  china says about it!

 

Your problem is that you're retarded.

 

And there's nothing much anyone can do about it !

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23 hours ago, drvoke said:

 

Media Watchdog Names Sean Hannity as a Chief Source of Coronavirus  Misinformation | Scene and Heard: Scene's News Blog

 

 

 

Fox News has been pushing two narratives in contradiction to each other:

 

1. COVID is a hoax. (It is just a bad flu.)

 

and

 

2. COVID is a bioweapon created in China with Fauci's funding.

 

 

Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Choose one and stick to it.

 

 

could it be both?

 

a hoax bioweapon?

 

lol

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50 minutes ago, drvoke said:

That he dissuaded people from wearing masks is problematic  . . . 

 

Not at all  !

 

I DON'T FUCKING WEAR ONE  !

NOWHERE ! 

 

AND ANYONE VISITING  MY HOME IS REQUIRED TO REMOVE THEIRS  . . .  OR FUCK OFF  !

 

IN FACT  NEXT TO NONE INSIST ON WEARING ONE  . . .  AND ALL OF THEM ARE ONLY TOO HAPPY THEY CAN REMOVE IT, TO COME IN !

 

This corona and mask shit is total  Chinese shit ! 

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1 hour ago, drvoke said:

 

How do we know how many people died of COVID in China? They could still be dying in droves for all we know. Don't tell me you believe the news that comes out of their country.

 

 

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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/coronavirus-linked-to-chinese-wet-markets

 

 

 

But on January 26, China did ban the trade and consumption of wild animals for food. And starting on January 1, the government temporarily closed the Huanan market, after it was identified as the likely source of many early cases of COVID-19. It remains closed, according to Xu Ling, director of the China office of TRAFFIC, the wildlife trade monitoring organization.

 

 

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More rarely, wet markets also sell wild animals and their meat. The Huanan market, for example, had a wild animal section where live and slaughtered species were for sale: snakes, beavers, porcupines, and baby crocodiles, among other animals.

Why “wet” markets? One explanation has to do with the liquid in these places: live fish splashing in tubs of water, melting ice keeping meat cold, the blood and innards of slaughtered animals. Another is simply that they deal in perishable goods (thus wet) instead of dry, durable goods.

 

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23 hours ago, drvoke said:

 

For who and to what end?

 

Hell, SHITSTAIN, their END is obvious!!!

 

The CHICOMS want to see if they can INFECT THE NATION so that when their time of invasion happens, we haven't got the ability to fight back!!


AS SICK NATION is incapable of fighting a war with them.

 

SO you are just STUPID enough to believe that "it's not possible". But the reality is, it is LIKELY this is the case here.

 

CHICOMS have been developing BIOWEAPONS for DECADES and the got one this time that is killing people and it would be to the advantage to turn it loose on the US of A about 6 months before their planned invasion.

 

SO go fuck yourself you goddamn piece of pig shit.

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2 hours ago, drvoke said:

 

That's possible. Another possibility is that they would weld people into their homes and apartments until they got through the quarantine process.

 

Except that didn't happen. They continued to manufacture and ship goods. 

 

Still, pretending is fun, and in your wheelhouse. 

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2 hours ago, drvoke said:

That he dissuaded people from wearing masks is problematic,

It says right on the box that masks have no effect on preventing the spread of viruses, science denier. 

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58 minutes ago, Common said:

It says right on the box that masks have no effect on preventing the spread of viruses, science denier. 

but, but fauxi said, "wear mask(s) plural....the more the better...."

 

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