The Derek Chauvin criminal trial watch thread

[crazyhole]

Can someone explain why the processing of the police cars is a relevant line of questioning?

[crazyhole]

Lol.    "What is the function of a catalytic converter" is a question that the prosecution actually asked.   

[Str8tEdge]

7 hours ago, jerra- said:

 

hmmmm.

 

just the right person to put in a choke hold, hands behind his back.

 

and chauvin is surprised floyd died?

 There was no "choke hold" applied, nor was there any evidence the carotids were compromised. 

 

Floyd not being able to breathe was a direct result of either a fatal arrhythmia or fentanyl overdose. Both slow your respiratory process to death. 

[Str8tEdge]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/breaking-chauvin-lawyer-plays-clip-george-floyd-allegedly-saying-ate-many-drugs-video/
 

BREAKING: Chauvin Lawyer Plays Clip of George Floyd Allegedly Saying ‘I Ate Too Many Drugs’ (VIDEO)

[jerra-]

8 hours ago, Str8tEdge said:

 There was no "choke hold" applied, nor was there any evidence the carotids were compromised. 

 

Floyd not being able to breathe was a direct result of either a fatal arrhythmia or fentanyl overdose. Both slow your respiratory process to death. 

 

 

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https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/05/by-an-amazing-coincidence-george-floyd-had-a-fatal-heart-attack-while-derek-chauvin-was-kneeling-on-or-very-near-his-neck

 

(2) George Floyd was very much alive when Derek Chauvin got his hands on him, and dead by the time Chauvin stopped “arresting” him (he had no pulse when the ambulance arrived). The notion that a 46-year-old man who worked security at a bar had a fatal heart attack unrelated to asphyxiation at the same exact moment that Chauvin “appeared” to be asphyxiating him with his knee speaks for itself.

(3) If we’re really going to play this game, Minnesota, like almost all states, uses a but-for standard of causation in criminal cases. This means that if Chauvin’s actions caused Floyd to have a fatal heart attack, then Chauvin would be guilty of homicide, if those actions weren’t otherwise a justifiable use of force. Given that Floyd was lying on the ground handcuffed with Chauvin on top of him for several minutes when he had his incredibly coincidental “heart attack,” it’s clear that Chauvin should be guilty of murder anyway.

[jerra-]

6 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/breaking-chauvin-lawyer-plays-clip-george-floyd-allegedly-saying-ate-many-drugs-video/
 

BREAKING: Chauvin Lawyer Plays Clip of George Floyd Allegedly Saying ‘I Ate Too Many Drugs’ (VIDEO)

 

 

 

why is this an issue? it has already been established floyd had drugs in his system.

[Imgreatagain]

6 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

 

why is this an issue? it has already been established floyd had drugs in his system.

Not just drugs. A lot of fucking drugs. 

[jerra-]

8 minutes ago, Imgreatagain said:

Not just drugs. A lot of fucking drugs. 

 

 

more drugs than the tests showed?

 

 

[Str8tEdge]

31 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

 

why is this an issue? it has already been established floyd had drugs in his system.

Drugs? He had 3 times the lethal dose of fentanyl alone, with meth, alcohol, THC and chronic heart disease not to mention he was having trouble breathing BEFORE Chauvin restrained  him because..... he was dying of an overdose or arrhythmia.....

[Str8tEdge]

17 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

more drugs than the tests showed?

 

 

More than 3 times the legal dose of Fentanyl with chronic heart disease? 😆 
 

The fact Floyd knew he “ate too many drugs” would lead us to believe he knew he was overdosing but he told police he didn’t do any drugs that night....

[Str8tEdge]

38 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

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https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/05/by-an-amazing-coincidence-george-floyd-had-a-fatal-heart-attack-while-derek-chauvin-was-kneeling-on-or-very-near-his-neck

 

(2) George Floyd was very much alive when Derek Chauvin got his hands on him, and dead by the time Chauvin stopped “arresting” him (he had no pulse when the ambulance arrived). The notion that a 46-year-old man who worked security at a bar had a fatal heart attack unrelated to asphyxiation at the same exact moment that Chauvin “appeared” to be asphyxiating him with his knee speaks for itself.

(3) If we’re really going to play this game, Minnesota, like almost all states, uses a but-for standard of causation in criminal cases. This means that if Chauvin’s actions caused Floyd to have a fatal heart attack, then Chauvin would be guilty of homicide, if those actions weren’t otherwise a justifiable use of force. Given that Floyd was lying on the ground handcuffed with Chauvin on top of him for several minutes when he had his incredibly coincidental “heart attack,” it’s clear that Chauvin should be guilty of murder anyway.

There was no physical evidence of asphyxiation and no physical damage to the trachea  because...he died of a drug overdose. 
 

It’s NOT clear Chauvin is guilty of murder. 
 

Where do you get this trash? 

[Str8tEdge]

41 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

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https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/05/by-an-amazing-coincidence-george-floyd-had-a-fatal-heart-attack-while-derek-chauvin-was-kneeling-on-or-very-near-his-neck

 

(2) George Floyd was very much alive when Derek Chauvin got his hands on him, and dead by the time Chauvin stopped “arresting” him (he had no pulse when the ambulance arrived). The notion that a 46-year-old man who worked security at a bar had a fatal heart attack unrelated to asphyxiation at the same exact moment that Chauvin “appeared” to be asphyxiating him with his knee speaks for itself.

(3) If we’re really going to play this game, Minnesota, like almost all states, uses a but-for standard of causation in criminal cases. This means that if Chauvin’s actions caused Floyd to have a fatal heart attack, then Chauvin would be guilty of homicide, if those actions weren’t otherwise a justifiable use of force. Given that Floyd was lying on the ground handcuffed with Chauvin on top of him for several minutes when he had his incredibly coincidental “heart attack,” it’s clear that Chauvin should be guilty of murder anyway.

 

Just now, Str8tEdge said:

There was no physical evidence of asphyxiation and no physical damage to the trachea  because...he died of a drug overdose. 
 

It’s NOT clear Chauvin is guilty of murder. 
 

Where do you get this trash? 

Oh... I didn’t see where you quoted a fucking blog.... That’s your trash source. 

[jerra-]

1 hour ago, Str8tEdge said:

 

Oh... I didn’t see where you quoted a fucking blog.... That’s your trash source. 

 

1 hour ago, Str8tEdge said:

There was no physical evidence of asphyxiation and no physical damage to the trachea  because...he died of a drug overdose. 
 

It’s NOT clear Chauvin is guilty of murder. 
 

Where do you get this trash? 

 

1 hour ago, Str8tEdge said:

More than 3 times the legal dose of Fentanyl with chronic heart disease? 😆 
 

The fact Floyd knew he “ate too many drugs” would lead us to believe he knew he was overdosing but he told police he didn’t do any drugs that night....

 

 

 

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus

 

 

 

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Floyd's death has been ruled a homicide.

The autopsy report from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office concludes the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." That conclusion, death due to heart failure, differs from the one reached by an independent examiner hired by the Floyd family; that report listed the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."

[Str8tEdge]

29 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus

 

 

 

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Floyd's death has been ruled a homicide.

The autopsy report from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office concludes the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." That conclusion, death due to heart failure, differs from the one reached by an independent examiner hired by the Floyd family; that report listed the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."

Uh, huh. An independent examiner hired but the family lol.... looking for a payday. 
 

Meanwhile, there is no physical evidence to actually backup that claim. No damage done to the trachea  or neck by the original autopsy. 
 

Can you PROVE  the cardiopulmonary arrest wasn’t caused by say a 3 times lethal dose of Fentanyl? 😆

[jerra-]

11 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

Uh, huh. An independent examiner hired but the family lol.... looking for a payday. 
 

Meanwhile, there is no physical evidence to actually backup that claim. No damage done to the trachea  or neck by the original autopsy. 
 

Can you PROVE  the cardiopulmonary arrest wasn’t caused by say a 3 times lethal dose of Fentanyl? 😆

 

 

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https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/new-court-docs-say-george-floyd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-his-system/89-ed69d09d-a9ec-481c-90fe-7acd4ead3d04

 

In Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

[Duck615]

Just now, jerra- said:

 

 

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In Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

LMFAO funny how they changed the autopsy...

[Str8tEdge]

Just now, jerra- said:

 

 

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In Baker's final report after watching the videos, he ruled Floyd's death a homicide caused by "law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The FBI asked the Armed Forces Medical Examiner to review Baker's autopsy and they agreed with his findings, writing "his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint" with cardiovascular disease and drug intoxication contributing."

That’s opinion. Where’s the proof he didn’t suffer from a deadly drug induced arrhythmia? Or overdose? 

[Str8tEdge]

Just now, Str8tEdge said:

That’s opinion. Where’s the proof he didn’t suffer from a deadly drug induced arrhythmia? Or overdose? 

Kind of like what medical professionals seen in the ER daily. 

[jerra-]

11 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

Uh, huh. An independent examiner hired but the family lol.... looking for a payday. 
 

Meanwhile, there is no physical evidence to actually backup that claim. No damage done to the trachea  or neck by the original autopsy. 
 

Can you PROVE  the cardiopulmonary arrest wasn’t caused by say a 3 times lethal dose of Fentanyl? 😆

 

1 minute ago, Str8tEdge said:

Kind of like what medical professionals seen in the ER daily. 

 

 

 

 

is that what they do to patients with heart attacks in your hospital? put their knees on their necks?

 

and is that they do to people od'ing????

[Duck615]

1 minute ago, jerra- said:

 

 

 

 

 

is that what they do to patients with heart attacks in your hospital? put their knees on their necks?

 

and is that they do to people od'ing????

obey the law... be fine

[Str8tEdge]

32 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

 

 

 

is that what they do to patients with heart attacks in your hospital? put their knees on their necks?

 

and is that they do to people od'ing????

Police aren't medical professionals, dumb fuck. 

 

2. Floyd lied and told the cops we wasn't on drugs. 

[jerra-]

51 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

Police aren't medical professionals, dumb fuck. 

 

2. Floyd lied and told the cops we wasn't on drugs. 

 

 

1-  they get medical training these days--keep up

 

2- so??

[SixShooter]

1 hour ago, jerra- said:

is that what they do to patients with heart attacks in your hospital? put their knees on their necks?

 

This is one of the most idiotic, moronic posts I have ever seen here

 

And that's saying a lot

[Scout]

15 hours ago, Str8tEdge said:

 There was no "choke hold" applied, nor was there any evidence the carotids were compromised. 

 

Floyd not being able to breathe was a direct result of either a fatal arrhythmia or fentanyl overdose. Both slow your respiratory process to death. 

 

More falsehoods from Str8.  No surprises.

 

[crazyhole]

The doctor from Loyola is doing a lot of damage to the defense.   I'd say that so far he has turned the tide.   Cross examination should be interesting.