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2 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

It proved they  lived  in Siberia.

 

 

The article  is  BS...  warm climate did not wipe out the  mammoths,  neither did   human  hunting  

 

yesterday he said  warm climate  killed them ,   today it is genetic defects.

 

 

 

 

So what?  
 

Most mass extinctions happened bcuz of warmer weather and oxygen depleted oceans. 

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8 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

Wrong.   My arguments are based on sound science and laws of energy.   I ask questions you are afraid to answer.  You’re  the one who sees CO2 as a toxic gas.   

 

More lies.

I never once used the word 'toxic'.

You have serious fucking issues.

 

8 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

I didn’t say you said ALL.  You’re dishonest, as most people here know.  

 

Then what the fuck are you even talking about??? Why wouldn't we want to remove Co2 from the atmosphere and prevent further warming?

 

Even the oil companies are trying to do it:

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-carboncapture-dac-idUSKCN25F1VN

 

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A new venture backed by U.S. oil and gas producer Occidental Petroleum Corp will develop the largest ever facility to pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere through a process known as direct air capture, the companies said on Wednesday.

 

And there's this too:

 

https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2021/02/22/a-sponge-to-soak-up-carbon-dioxide-in-the-air/

 

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In the course of these efforts, we also showed that variants of the MOFs could be efficient for the removal of CO2 from other gas mixtures, including biogas, natural gas, and even directly from air.

 

Carbon capture has been a thing for a while now, but it isn't developed enough to be truly effective.

 

8 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

How much CO2 do we remove?  Where is the CO2?

 

Getting levels down to about 300ppm would probably be enough to prevent further warming and reverse the damage. That's still higher than pre-industrial levels.

 

https://upliftconnect.com/can-science-reverse-global-warming/

 

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Paul Hawken is one of the first people to postulate that climate change is a great invitation to innovate as well as a pathway to creativity, compassion, and human ingenuity. Physicist-entrepreneur, Peter Fiekowsky and the Healthy Climate Alliance take this one step further by offering us a path to 300 ppm by 2050. The technologies exist, have been demonstrated, and appear scalable to reach this goal.

 

If these technologies become affordable and feasible, then even the GOP might admit they've been lying about climate change and CO2... since they'll just argue that fossil fuels are perfectly okay now that science has 'fixed' the CO2 problem. You probably won't, though.

 

Still, they're not there yet and in the meantime the Earth WILL continue to get warmer and there WILL be more extreme weather, extinctions, etc.

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20 minutes ago, Toldya said:

More lies.

I never once used the word 'toxic'.

You have serious fucking issues.

 

 

I never  said you said  it was  toxic.

 

I asserted that you think it is toxic.   Why ese  do you want to  remove it.

 

22 minutes ago, Toldya said:

Why wouldn't we want to remove Co2 from the atmosphere and prevent further warming?

 

 

CO2  does not  warmth the  Earth.  CO2 is not capable of warming 

 

Where is the  heat coming  from ?

 

24 minutes ago, Toldya said:

Getting levels down to about 300ppm would probably be enough to prevent further warming and reverse the damage. That's still higher than pre-industrial levels.

 

you're never going to  reverse it,   as  man  did not cause it.

 

you  want to  reduce carbon ,  go ahead, but don't expect to  stop the temp changes

 

 

25 minutes ago, Toldya said:

f these technologies become affordable and feasible, then even the GOP might admit they've been lying about climate change and CO2... since they'll just argue that fossil fuels are perfectly okay now that science has 'fixed' the CO2 problem. You probably won't, though.

 

 

What is the  purpose of the  atmosphere?  Why would  not want it to  do its  job better?

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On 2/21/2021 at 11:47 AM, nuckin futz said:

Good enough !!

There was no right or wrong answer.

All people are different.

I am a Libertarian.                                            😎

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On 2/21/2021 at 11:43 AM, ROG62 said:

Just went thru 3 weeks of 'winter' here where temps never climbed above zero... just another typical MN winter...and guess what, life goes on...

 

"That's what I am talkin' about" !! !                 🤠..🥃

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On 2/24/2021 at 5:25 AM, EltonJohnson said:

I asserted that you think it is toxic.   Why ese  do you want to  remove it.

 

Why would someone wearing a wool sweater in the desert want to remove it? Because wool is toxic?

 

Stop pretending you're capable of honesty.

 

On 2/24/2021 at 5:25 AM, EltonJohnson said:

CO2  does not  warmth the  Earth.  CO2 is not capable of warming 

 

Where is the  heat coming  from ?

 

The radiation comes from the sun. The Co2 absorbs and emits the radiation, sending some of it back to the surface. Here's a link you're too lazy to click on:

 

https://scied.ucar.edu/carbon-dioxide-absorbs-and-re-emits-infrared-radiation

 

 

On 2/24/2021 at 5:25 AM, EltonJohnson said:

What is the  purpose of the  atmosphere?  Why would  not want it to  do its  job better?

 

There is no 'purpose'. Seriously... you want to pretend you understand science and you start talking about 'purpose'???

 

The atmosphere does what it does because of its composition, a composition that human beings are changing.

 

It doesn't exist purely to help human beings thrive.

You are on crack.

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On 2/24/2021 at 4:28 AM, EltonJohnson said:

The article  is  BS...  warm climate did not wipe out the  mammoths,  neither did   human  hunting  

 

yesterday he said  warm climate  killed them ,   today it is genetic defects.

 

The warm climate didn't kill them DIRECTLY.

 

If you had tried reading for a chance, you would see that during the Ice Age, the mammoths depended on various herbs for nutrition.

 

When the climate started to warm, those herbs were displaced by less nutritious grasses which were better suited to the warmer climate. So the mammoths lost their primary sources of nutrition and began to starve.

 

The genetic defects only existed in the last survived mammoths-- the ones that existed 4000 years ago instead of 45,000 years ago (they compared the carcasses and contents of stomachs). They were a product of inbreeding among the survivors of the mass starvation. The entire point of the article is that once a species' numbers dwindle to a certain point, extinction is guaranteed via lack of genetic diversity.

 

So yes, climate change killed the mammoths... not in the primary school cartoon way you think, though. It allowed their food source to be replaced, and then there was mass starvation, which resulted in inbreeding, which finally killed them off via genetic defects.

 

Interestingly enough, one big negative of climate change 'greening' is that several key crops are also losing their nutritional value in the high Co2 atmosphere.

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/140507-crops-nutrition-climate-change-carbon-dioxide-science

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On 2/26/2021 at 4:18 AM, Toldya said:

The warm climate didn't kill them DIRECTLY.

 

If you had tried reading for a chance, you would see that during the Ice Age, the mammoths depended on various herbs for nutrition.

 

When the climate started to warm, those herbs were displaced by less nutritious grasses which were better suited to the warmer climate. So the mammoths lost their primary sources of nutrition and began to starve.

 

That  does not explain the  mass deaths  and mass graves found

 

 

However, for sake of  argument, as we aren't debating   mammoths,  why did the  climate start to warm?

 

 

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45 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

That  does not explain the  mass deaths  and mass graves found

 

 

However, for sake of  argument, as we aren't debating   mammoths,  why did the  climate start to warm?

 

 

“Why do they exist? One theory is that the mammoths suffered a mineral deficiency and were desperately seeking calcium at sites of so-called salt licks. The creatures suffered a crippling bone disease and perished at sites where they sought solace, as if at an ancient mammoth health spa. 

Another version is that they were trapped by ancient hunters. Recently we highlighted the mass grave at a village called Mamontovoye - or Mammoth”

 

http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/n0434-new-mass-grave-of-woolly-mammoths-found-by-siberian-river/

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1 minute ago, Pastafarian said:

One theory is that the mammoths suffered a mineral deficiency and were desperately seeking calcium at sites of so-called salt licks. The creatures suffered a crippling bone disease and perished at sites where they sought solace, as if at an ancient mammoth health spa. 

Another version is that they were trapped by ancient hunters.

 

 

they all  dropped dead at the same time due to  mineral deficiency   or they were all killed  at the  same time  by  hunters!

 

ummm    no.

 

 

There  were thousands of  them.

 

 

It was a catastrophic event.  your brain can't accept  things that big, you  need to come up with more plausible scenarios that you could understand

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1 minute ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

they all  dropped dead at the same time due to  mineral deficiency   or they were all killed  at the  same time  by  hunters!

 

ummm    no.

 

 

There  were thousands of  them.

 

 

It was a catastrophic event.  your brain can't accept  things that big, you  need to come up with more plausible scenarios that you could understand

Link this mass grave of a thousand mammoths. 
 

I can’t find it. 

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12 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

That  does not explain the  mass deaths  and mass graves found

 

How do 'mass graves' contradict the explanation offered in that article? You're saying that the population couldn't have been dwindling at that point? Or that these weren't generations of mammoths that settled there and gradually died out from a combination of malnutrition, disease and/or hunting?

 

12 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

why did the  climate start to warm?

 

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/milankovitch-cycles

 

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The natural cycle is range bound and well understood, largely constrained by the Milankovitch cycles. Since the beginning of the industrial age, humankind has caused such a dramatic departure from the natural cycle, that it is hard to imagine anyone thinking that we are still in the natural cycle.

 

 

 

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