crazyhole Posted Friday at 11:21 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:21 PM for doctors and nurses. As soon as you say that a service is a "right", that means the provider of that service cannot refuse to serve you thereby making them a slave. If healthcare is an enshrined right, I should be able to show up at a doctor's house at 3AM and demand treatment because it is guaranteed. Or is it just a right to have someone else pay the bill for me to see a doctor in regular business hours as determined by the hospital? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XavierOnassis Posted Friday at 11:24 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:24 PM Are European doctors slaves? You make no sense. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pastafarian Posted Friday at 11:26 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:26 PM You win stupid post of the day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazyhole Posted Friday at 11:27 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 11:27 PM 3 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: Are European doctors slaves? You make no sense. Is healthcare a right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazyhole Posted Friday at 11:28 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 11:28 PM 2 minutes ago, Pastafarian said: You win stupid post of the day. If it was that stupid, you'd be able to refute it without insults. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XavierOnassis Posted Friday at 11:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:29 PM Just now, crazyhole said: Is healthcare a right? Yes, in any civilized society it should be. The health is a nation is the health of its people. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazyhole Posted Friday at 11:32 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 11:32 PM 2 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: Yes, in any civilized society it should be. The health is a nation is the health of its people. Then as a right, those who can provide Healthcare are required to do so regardless of compensation. Rights are non-negotiable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pastafarian Posted Friday at 11:35 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:35 PM 2 minutes ago, crazyhole said: If it was that stupid, you'd be able to refute it without insults. Drs and nurses are paid. Drs and nurses have buildings they go to and heal the sick. Our homes are not the place for that unless an emergency in our neighborhoods arises. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XavierOnassis Posted Friday at 11:37 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:37 PM Just now, crazyhole said: Then as a right, those who can provide Healthcare are required to do so regardless of compensation. Rights are non-negotiable People have a right to potable water. Are the people at your local water company required to work for free? Are they slaves?. What we need is a national health service that provides healthcare from tax revenues, as they do in Canada, the UK Western Europe Taiwan and Japan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazyhole Posted Friday at 11:44 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 11:44 PM 7 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: People have a right to potable water. Are the people at your local water company required to work for free? Are they slaves?. What we need is a national health service that provides healthcare from tax revenues, as they do in Canada, the UK Western Europe Taiwan and Japan. If you have to pay for it, it isn't a right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pastafarian Posted Saturday at 10:48 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:48 AM 11 hours ago, crazyhole said: If you have to pay for it, it isn't a right. You got to pay for your gun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 10:58 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:58 AM 11 hours ago, crazyhole said: for doctors and nurses. As soon as you say that a service is a "right", that means the provider of that service cannot refuse to serve you thereby making them a slave. If healthcare is an enshrined right, I should be able to show up at a doctor's house at 3AM and demand treatment because it is guaranteed. Or is it just a right to have someone else pay the bill for me to see a doctor in regular business hours as determined by the hospital? This is 100 % true. Socialism simply makes you a slave to the state which is why it fails as an economic system. Humans want to be rewarded for their effort, talents, intelligence, ideas and education. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 11:01 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:01 AM 12 minutes ago, Pastafarian said: You got to pay for your gun. That’s not the right, retard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 11:03 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:03 AM 11 hours ago, XavierOnassis said: Yes, in any civilized society it should be. The health is a nation is the health of its people. Health doesn’t equal healthcare. The number one way to stay healthy is to..... live a healthy lifestyle, retard. Put away your junk food, go exercise and put away the drugs and alcohol and get the fucking cigarette out of your mouth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 11:03 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:03 AM 11 hours ago, crazyhole said: If you have to pay for it, it isn't a right. Correct. Anything else is an entitlement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 11:06 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:06 AM 11 hours ago, XavierOnassis said: People have a right to potable water. Are the people at your local water company required to work for free? Are they slaves?. What we need is a national health service that provides healthcare from tax revenues, as they do in Canada, the UK Western Europe Taiwan and Japan. Then it’s not a right. It’s an entitlement. The left likes to entitle themselves to other people’s shit then try and label it a natural right. Every leftist is a thief. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pastafarian Posted Saturday at 11:18 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:18 AM 17 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said: That’s not the right, retard. The right is owning a gun. You got to pay for the gun first. You also have to pay for your permit. You also have to pay to hunt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michaelf Posted Saturday at 11:19 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:19 AM 11 hours ago, crazyhole said: Then as a right, those who can provide Healthcare are required to do so regardless of compensation. Rights are non-negotiable Socialized medicine makes slaves of the tax payers. Healthcare providers still get paid...but you will be doing the paying whether you are using the healthcare or not. How can you claim right to somebody else's labor. It just isn't civilized. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 11:21 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:21 AM 3 minutes ago, Pastafarian said: The right is owning a gun. You got to pay for the gun first. No. The right is you are able to own a gun. There is no requirement to buy a gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pastafarian Posted Saturday at 11:23 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:23 AM 1 minute ago, Str8tEdge said: No. The right is you are able to own a gun. There is no requirement to buy a gun. But when you exercise that right you have to pay for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 11:24 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:24 AM Just now, Pastafarian said: But when you exercise that right you have to pay for it. No. That’s false. The right exists whether you own a gun or not, idiot. Do you have to also get arrested for your right against illegal search and seizure? 😆 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 11:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:26 AM Man, the left really struggles with such a simple concept..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michaelf Posted Saturday at 11:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:26 AM 18 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said: Health doesn’t equal healthcare. The number one way to stay healthy is to..... live a healthy lifestyle, retard. Put away your junk food, go exercise and put away the drugs and alcohol and get the fucking cigarette out of your mouth. Once we start paying for their healthcare we can start controlling their health...just protecting our own investment. We'll tell them what to eat, drink when and how to exercise. we'll make certain that they live in what we think is the absolute healthiest way. A slice of cake or a soft drink (god forbid a good Saturday night binge) will be tantamount to treason against the people and punished accordingly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Str8tEdge Posted Saturday at 11:29 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:29 AM Just now, Michaelf said: Once we start paying for their healthcare we can start controlling their health...just protecting our own investment. We'll tell them what to eat, drink when and how to exercise. we'll make certain that they live in what we think is the absolute healthiest way. A slice of cake or a soft drink (god forbid a good Saturday night binge) will be tantamount to treason against the people and punished accordingly. We already are which is why we should DEMAND people on Medicaid stop doing drugs, smoke, drink alcohol and exercise daily until they are at a healthy weight. Amazingly, people paying for their own healthcare are way healthier than those who don’t...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chongo Posted Saturday at 11:36 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:36 AM 11 hours ago, crazyhole said: Is healthcare a right? Socialist medicine is for dependent neo peasant serf slaves with an idiotic death wish. Medical experimentation on the individual is not a right, restrictions on healthy individuals such as mask and lock downs is not a right, no aids people are having to stay in a camp or wear mask and they are no longer restricted from giving blood. Anti USA constitution Socialist kangaroo court anti-American individual protections for drug corporations that will have zero liability and will only possibly say that they are sorry after they are taken to court. Removal and replacement of individual rights and legal abilities with socialist group-gang neo peasant rights, then pitting the non voluntarily separated classed and grouped individuals against each other in an unceasing spiral of hatred and violence. The destructive socialist system must have constant enemies to persecute, otherwise it will collapse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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