slideman Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 They are in the business of getting folks to vote against their own interests. Eventually that fails. So they have to cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LaughinAtLefty Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, slideman said: They are in the business of getting folks to vote against their own interests. Eventually that fails. So they have to cheat. Pure, unadulterated projection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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benson13 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 There seems to be a real disconnect between the claims of widespread fraud, a stolen election and illegal voting made by President Donald Trump and his allies and the actual claims formally made by his lawyers in court. https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/why-trumps-election-fraud-claims-arent-showing-up-in-his-lawsuits-challenging-the-results/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipIV Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 If you can get people to vote against their own interest then what is the point of democracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calguy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhilipIV said: If you can get people to vote against their own interest then what is the point of democracy? So we can have black people move next door to you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipIV Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, calguy said: So we can have black people move next door to you. Well that doesn't sound very useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calguy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, PhilipIV said: Well that doesn't sound very useful It is if it gets you to move out of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipIV Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, calguy said: It is if it gets you to move out of the country. Right...so it isn't like you are a fan of democracy. You just consider it a useful tool to use against your enemies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calguy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, PhilipIV said: Right...so it isn't like you are a fan of democracy. You just consider it a useful tool to use against your enemies. I'm a big fan of democracy. I just prefer nazis to move to another country, like maybe Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipIV Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, calguy said: I'm a big fan of democracy. I just prefer nazis to move to another country, like maybe Russia. Well you have already basically refuted what is supposed to be the whole point of democracy. You apparently think that people can be brainwashed to vote for anything. I tend to agree. Especially if the media and entertainment and school curriculum is control by a select people with a certain political agenda and identity. I think it can last forever in fact. After all...dont Muslims and Christians think the other have been fundamentally misled for centuries? You also apparently seem aware that you greatest enemies exist within this democratic system. I agree with you about that. And who would want their enemies to have a vote on the destiny of a country? You are trying to mock republicans for hating democracy ..which is actually a false claim...but you have clearly shown why democracy has fatal flaws at the same time. Not a very clear thinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, slideman said: They are in the business of getting folks to vote against their own interests. Eventually that fails. So they have to cheat. I don't think that they are opposed to democracy on ideological grounds. They have to enact unpopular policy dictated by the donor class. That leads to a conflict of interest between the voters and those who call the shots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 57 minutes ago, PhilipIV said: If you can get people to vote against their own interest then what is the point of democracy? Democracy happens to be the idea behind America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipIV Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Zaro said: Democracy happens to be the idea behind America The founding fathers insisted on only property owning white males having the vote. Also many institutions excluded people because of their identity. Jews could not attend Harvard, for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, PhilipIV said: The founding fathers insisted on only property owning white males having the vote. Also many institutions excluded people because of their identity. Jews could not attend Harvard, for example That's why we have a Constitution that can be amended. Unlike the Bible, nothing is written in stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixShooter Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zaro said: That's why we have a Constitution that can be amended. Unlike the Bible, nothing is written in stone ^^ Misses the point, distracted by worry over fungus toes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipIV Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Zaro said: That's why we have a Constitution that can be amended. Unlike the Bible, nothing is written in stone But you missed the point. Obviously the character of 'Democracy' (or democratic republic) is totally different in such circumstances. The ballot box in the modern era is just a sort of passive aggressive race war every 4 years. People don't know anything about nor care about 'Real issues'. That is because you made diverse people voters while setting them against each other. Is that 'Democracy'? Is that was the founders had in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, PhilipIV said: That is because you made diverse people voters while setting them against each other. Is that 'Democracy'? Is that was the founders had in mind? You best discuss this with Mariboo Boo. I don't feel like taking a shower just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, SixShooter said: ^^ Misses the point, distracted by worry over fungus toes I never miss the point, pony boy. We have all the trappings of a democracy but are in fact an oligarchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calguy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, PhilipIV said: But you missed the point. Obviously the character of 'Democracy' (or democratic republic) is totally different in such circumstances. The ballot box in the modern era is just a sort of passive aggressive race war every 4 years. People don't know anything about nor care about 'Real issues'. That is because you made diverse people voters while setting them against each other. Is that 'Democracy'? Is that was the founders had in mind? Just think, if you had been born 100 years earlier, you could have been proud member of the Third Riech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck615 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, calguy said: Just think, if you had been born 100 years earlier, you could have been proud member of the Third Riech. You are a member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str8tEdge Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, slideman said: They are in the business of getting folks to vote against their own interests. Eventually that fails. So they have to cheat. Wow....the irony. You just handed more control to bankers, corporations and the military complex. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str8tEdge Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, Duck615 said: You are a member No doubt. Progressives are the biggest Nazi fascists on the planet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipIV Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, calguy said: Just think, if you had been born 100 years earlier, you could have been proud member of the Third Riech. I am not German. I find it amusing that every time you leftists get BTFOd you try to play the Nazi card. It's just thought termination You have really overplayed it. Are you suggesting the founding fathers would have supported Hitler? Perhaps they would actually...i don't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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