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It's funny how Republican partisanship is always bad, while Democrat partisanship is always good.

 

Maybe Koch is regretting the fact that his life's work is about to go towards funding the making of America into authoritarian socialist state.

 

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, rippy38 said:

It's funny how Republican partisanship is always bad, while Democrat partisanship is always good.

 

Maybe Koch is regretting the fact that his life's work is about to go towards funding the making of America into authoritarian socialist state.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah. We just dodged watching America devolve into an authoritarian state.

 

The Loser has no respect for the Constitution, the law, the norms of civic behavior, or  basic human decency.

 

He lost. Get over it.

 

When Charles Koch--of all people--realizes his mistake, perhaps you should as well.

 

Bill

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, XavierOnassis said:

Koch screwed up bigtime, and I doubt that it benefited his bottom line even slightly. It certainly did not change his lifestyle.

I quit buying their products....that affected his bottom line by at least $3.27.  :D  

 

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20 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

Nah. We just dodged watching America devolve into an authoritarian state.

 

The Loser has no respect for the Constitution, the law, the norms of civic behavior, or  basic human decency.

 

He lost. Get over it.

 

When Charles Koch--of all people--realizes his mistake, perhaps you should as well.

 

Bill

 

 

 

Even Koch recognized what scum Trump is.

And he helped empower the party that picked that scum.  

 

I do not understand the use of Libertarian very well.

Or I understand it and nobody else does.  :D  

Firstly, most who claim to be Libertarians had declared themselves Republicans long ago (except I remember when Bill Maher used to refer to himself as a Libertarian).  All but Maher are opposed to CHOICE re abortion.  So they pretty much flunk the 'liberty' part

of 'libertarian'.  

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2 hours ago, rippy38 said:

How so, specifically?

 

What authoritarian socialist policies was Trump pushing?

 

Trump is the most libertarian president we've had since Coolidge.    He had every opportunity to sieze power or start wars and didn't.  Thats how he will be remembered.  

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2 minutes ago, Butthead said:

Trump is the most libertarian president we've had since Coolidge.    He had every opportunity to sieze power or start wars and didn't.  Thats how he will be remembered.  

Exactly.

 

He worked harder at ending the current conflicts and creating peace than any President in my lifetime.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Scout said:

Even Koch recognized what scum Trump is.

And he helped empower the party that picked that scum.  

 

I do not understand the use of Libertarian very well.

Or I understand it and nobody else does.  :D  

Firstly, most who claim to be Libertarians had declared themselves Republicans long ago (except I remember when Bill Maher used to refer to himself as a Libertarian).  All but Maher are opposed to CHOICE re abortion.  So they pretty much flunk the 'liberty' part

of 'libertarian'.  

noun
  1. 1.
    an advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.
    "no true libertarian would ever support a culture where citizens must show their papers to travel"
     
  2. 2.
    a person who advocates civil liberty.
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53 minutes ago, Butthead said:

Trump is the most libertarian president we've had since Coolidge.    He had every opportunity to sieze power or start wars and didn't.  Thats how he will be remembered.  

If Libertarian means "a party that spends a bunch of money with debt or printing $$ - does not believe the gov't should control deficit", then sounds like Trump.  

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The greatest failure of libertarianism imo is that it is an ethical philosophy pretending to be a political philosophy.

 

If you only deal with abstract 'Rights' and never address the problem of power then you are bound to screw things up in the domain of power.

 

I dunno if koch is a 'Libertarian' but he does seem to be confessing to the typical libertarian inability to comprehend cause and effect.

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1 hour ago, rippy38 said:
noun
  1. 1.
    an advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.
    "no true libertarian would ever support a culture where citizens must show their papers to travel"
     
  2. 2.
    a person who advocates civil liberty.

 

See, I see Dems nor Repubs any closer than one another to being "Libertarian".  Dems win the civil and personal liberty side of the equation and Repubs win the market side of it.   But Republicans are always trying to call themselves Libertarians, whereas Dems

are proud of their party.  

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Just now, kfools said:

You just dodged America bring put into an authoritarian state?

 

Tell me please, how much prison time should people get for not wearing mask in your opinion?

 

Why should it take the threat of prison time for people to do the right thing?

 

Bill

 

 

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10 minutes ago, kfools said:

No you asked a question.

 

Yes. A valid question. What kind of nut recklessly endanger the lives of fellow citizens by refusing to wear a mask?

 

Laws exist to protect us all from assholes who refuse to do the right thing.

 

Bill

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5 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

Yes. A valid question. What kind of nut recklessly endanger the lives of fellow citizens by refusing to wear a mask?

 

Laws exist to protect us all from assholes who refuse to do the right thing.

 

Bill

'Assholes who refuse to do the right thing'.

 

Whether or not you are correct, this is an authoritarian attitude.

 

Aristotle argued that people should be permitted to make mistakes as this is a key part of learning.

 

That is why he supported a sort of laissez faire monarchy unlike Plato and Socrates who were supporting a sort of paternalistic oligarchy

 

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1 minute ago, PhilipIV said:

'Assholes who refuse to do the right thing'.

 

Whether or not you are correct, this is an authoritarian attitude.

 

Aristotle argued that people should be permitted to make mistakes as this is a key part of learning.

 

That is why he supported a sort of laissez faire monarchy unlike Plato and Socrates who were supporting a sort of paternalistic oligarchy

 

 

Hardly. Being reckless about the lives of fellow citizens is a fascistic attitude. You have no moral center.

 

You are free to make mistakes when you don't deliberately put other people's lives in harm's way. 

 

Bill

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1 minute ago, SpyCar said:

 

Hardly. Being reckless about the lives of fellow citizens is a fascistic attitude. You have no moral center.

 

You are free to make mistakes when you don't deliberately put other people's lives in harm's way. 

 

Bill

That is the opposite of the truth.

 

Fascism was founded of a volksgeist mentality. The welfare of their own community was by far their main concern.

 

They just cared less about out groups.

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7 minutes ago, PhilipIV said:

'Assholes who refuse to do the right thing'.

 

Whether or not you are correct, this is an authoritarian attitude.

 

Aristotle argued that people should be permitted to make mistakes as this is a key part of learning.

 

That is why he supported a sort of laissez faire monarchy unlike Plato and Socrates who were supporting a sort of paternalistic oligarchy

 

It’s a sacrifice.   Your country is asking you to step up in a time of crisis.  Only those who can’t or don’t want to meet the moment, complain about the moment.  
 

The country that has done so much for you and me is now asking for your help.  Your reaction to this moment is what character & human decency is built upon.
 

Any response mirroring ‘MUH RHATS!’ is a cop out.  The longer we pushback against safety measures, inevitably, the longer this continues.  
 

If we come together for the greater good for X amount of time, the quicker we can get back to normalcy.

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1 minute ago, jrock2310 said:

It’s a sacrifice.   Your country is asking you to step up in a time of crisis.  Only those who can’t or don’t want to meet the moment, complain about the moment.  
 

The country that has done so much for you and me is now asking for your help.  Your reaction to this moment is what character & human decency is built upon.
 

Any response mirroring ‘MUH RHATS!’ is a cop out.  The longer we pushback against safety measures, inevitably, the longer this continues.  
 

If we come together for the greater good for X amount of time, the quicker we can get back to normalcy.

I am not bothering to argue about what approach is better. I actually don't really care.

 

All I am doing is helping to define authoritarianism.

 

If you are telling people to sacrifice for the greater good then yes that is authoritarian.

 

Authoritarianism is not always bad. I am not trying to suggest that.

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