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Pfizer was afraid of the cancel-culture?!!! So they withheld the COVID vaccine news? Because...a pre-Nov 3rd announcement, would've guaranteed a Trump landslide on election night??


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1 minute ago, BatteryPowered said:

I don't buy that theory.  Not everything is a conspiracy. 

 

They got a huge bump and great press with the release.  Since trial studies are proprietary, they would have lost all that if they sat on it and someone in another country announced.  A huge risk.

 

 

 

FYI:  Pfizer is in a partnership of some sort with a German company on this research.  

 

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5 minutes ago, BatteryPowered said:

Not everything is a conspiracy. 

 

Exactly.

 

Which is why you did NOT see that word used in the OP nor thread title.  Thanks for acknowledging it.

 

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They got a huge bump and great press with the release.  Since trial studies are proprietary, they would have lost all that if they sat on it and someone in another country announced.  A huge risk.

 

 

 

 

This is not based in, logic, considering 1)a mere 7-8 days of waiting when 2)all participants in the race-to-a-vaccine are aware of the testing/studying/research phase of each meaningful participants' [candidate] vaccine.

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6 minutes ago, Scout said:

FYI:  Pfizer is in a partnership of some sort with a German company on this research.  

 

 

I know that.  Do you know that such research partnerships always include a clause that proprietary information (this would fall in that category) cannot be released without the consent of all parties.  A statement by the German company without Pfizer's consent would, from a practical standpoint, destroy them.

 

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5 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

Exactly.

 

Which is why you did NOT see that word used in the OP nor thread title.  Thanks for acknowledging it.

 

 

This is not based in, logic, considering 1)a mere 7-8 days of waiting when 2)all participants in the race-to-a-vaccine are aware of the testing/studying/research phase of each meaningful participants' [candidate] vaccine.

I think I get what you are saying and its a legit thought.   Had Pfizer come out ahead of the election and Trump had won, it would have seemed politically motivated and they didn't want the backlash.  

 

Is that correct?

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5 minutes ago, Butthead said:

... Had Pfizer come out ahead of the election and Trump had won, it would have seemed politically motivated and they didn't want the backlash.

 

  

 

Is that correct?

 

No.

 

Had Pfizer come out ahead of the election, since Pfizer was put in this position specifically by Trump, then it would have caused Trump's win in a landslide on reelection night itself.  Pfizer was afraid of the cancel culture, so they stayed silent and withheld this groundbreaking info.

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5 minutes ago, Pastafarian said:

You’ve been thinking accurately again. As a matter of fact, I will do something stupid like ---point out how stock markets skyrocketed over this news!!  but then tell pmurT to pay no attention to this news since this is only Preliminary trials. Lots more testing to go. 

I am so deceitful and dumb.

 

...fixed

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6 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

No.

 

Had Pfizer come out ahead of the election, since Pfizer was put in this position specifically by Trump, then it would have caused Trump's win in a landslide on reelection night itself.  Pfizer was afraid of the cancel culture, so they stayed silent and withheld this groundbreaking info.

 

How are the two you not saying the same thing?  It appears to me you are just using more words.  The "cancel culture" is throwing someone out of professional and social circles via (primarily) social media and news reports (publicity).  Are you saying the backlash would also have had a legal component.

 

Honest question, explain how y'all aren't saying the same thing.

 

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18 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

Exactly.

 

Which is why you did NOT see that word used in the OP nor thread title.  Thanks for acknowledging it.

 

 

This is not based in, logic, considering 1)a mere 7-8 days of waiting when 2)all participants in the race-to-a-vaccine are aware of the testing/studying/research phase of each meaningful participants' [candidate] vaccine.

Everything you post sounds like QAnon crap

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1 minute ago, BatteryPowered said:

 The "cancel culture" is throwing someone out of professional and social circles via (primarily) social media and new reports.

 

Once again, you are being very deceitful about the reality of the cancel culture ---especially since it goes far, far beyond social media!--- as social media is only the place where they identify who will be victimized in real life by the cancel culture.  

 

Stop being deceitful here, go look at how real it is that AOC and others are demanding The Dem Party compile a 'Trump Retention Group' list to go after all people who cooperated with President Trump or tried to get him reelected.

Pfizer was called up, by Trump, when they got involved with making a vaccine...so they are filed under the Trump category if that vaccine hits the market and makes Pfizer famous.  Pfizer knew this, and was not willing to pay the price of being cancelled by Pop Culture and it's Dem-controlled corporations and Dem-controlled hospitals who have relationships with Pfizer.

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7 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

Once again, you are being very deceitful about the reality of the cancel culture ---especially since it goes far, far beyond social media!--- as social media is only the place where they identify who will be victimized in real life by the cancel culture.  

 

Stop being deceitful here, go look at how real it is that AOC and others are demanding The Dem Party compile a 'Trump Retention Group' list to go after all people who cooperated with President Trump or tried to get him reelected.

Pfizer was called up, by Trump, when they got involved with making a vaccine...so they are filed under the Trump category if that vaccine hits the market and makes Pfizer famous.  Pfizer knew this, and was not willing to pay the price of being cancelled by Pop Culture and it's Dem-controlled corporations and Dem-controlled hospitals who have relationships with Pfizer.

 

What does cancel culture mean?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.

 

https://www.dictionary.com/e/pop-culture/cancel-culture/

 

Not trying to be an ass...but I still don't see how what you are saying is different than what @Butthead said.

 

Pfizer is already famous.  Unless someone is preteen or an idiot, they have heard of them. 

 

11 minutes ago, pmurT said:

go look at how real it is that AOC and others are demanding The Dem Party compile a 'Trump Retention Group' list to go after all people who cooperated with President Trump or tried to get him reelected.

 

So are you saying...in addition to the "cancel culture"...Pfizer was concerned about legal retaliation or a government supported attack on their operation?  Even with it being after the election, they are still in the "Trump Retention Group" and face almost as much "backlash" by making Trump's prediction of a vaccine this year sound correct.

 

My confusion here may simply being us having different definitions of the "cancel culture" term you keep using. 

 

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8 minutes ago, BatteryPowered said:

 

What does cancel culture mean?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture#:~:text=Cancel culture (or call-out,said to be "canceled."

 

 

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they are still in the "Trump Retention Group" and face almost as much "backlash" by making Trump's prediction of a vaccine this year sound correct.

 

My confusion here may simply being us having different definitions of the "cancel culture" term you keep using. 

 

 

Pfizer knows that by announcing this news, today, it puts them in good favor with Dems who realize that Pfizer strategically waited until after Biden was deemed the winner. 

 

If you do not understand the reality the veracity the fact that announcing this before the election, gains the President the anti-Trumpists votes for a landslide reelection win?...then I am not the one who can escort your brain into reality.

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5 minutes ago, BatteryPowered said:

Pfizer is already famous.  Unless someone is preteen or an idiot, they have heard of them. 

 

stop splitting hairs, it makes you look desperate and forlorn to be correct. Pfizer will be far, far more famous than they ever imagined they could be, if they are the anointed company to deliver the country that vaccine.

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2 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

Even you definition refers to social media or "real world" reports

 

2 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

If you do not understand the reality the veracity the fact that announcing this before the election, gains the President the anti-Trumpists votes for a landslide reelection win?...then I am not the one who can escort your brain into reality.

If explaining yourself offends you...then you can go fuck yourself.

 

I'm done.

 

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