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9 minutes ago, whiteboy said:

 

Texas said they did, and you could go to a bar, or whatever during the whole time.

 

No one actually did it.

 

Was the one in Michigan actually enforced?

 

Did hundreds of people go to jail for not doing it?

 

If not, then no ... Michigan didn't either.

 

People went to jail. Bars shut down. All non critical business was shit down.

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You've an insufferable ego, COWARD.

PCP? That explains a lot

You don't care for shit, you are a blithering idiot. You are just as much to blame for the virus as Trump is but at least Trump has done everything he could to get us through it. Fuck you leftist scum

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2 minutes ago, kfools said:

People went to jail. Bars shut down. All non critical business was shit down.

 

Yeah .... same thing they "said" in Texas.

 

Non of the mother fuckers shut down.

 

Decorating stores were open ... how the hell is that critical?

 

It was all a big bunch of smoke and mirrors here.

 

Maybe not there, but I think across the country mostly the same.

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56 minutes ago, whiteboy said:

 

Texas said they did, and you could go to a bar, or whatever during the whole time.

 

No one actually did it.

 

Was the one in Michigan actually enforced?

 

Did hundreds of people go to jail for not doing it?

 

If not, then no ... Michigan didn't either.

 

With Frau Schutzstaffel whitmer? I bet...

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49 minutes ago, whiteboy said:

 

Yeah .... same thing they "said" in Texas.

 

Non of the mother fuckers shut down.

 

Decorating stores were open ... how the hell is that critical?

 

It was all a big bunch of smoke and mirrors here.

 

Maybe not there, but I think across the country mostly the same.

Well, Texas is the Wild West....

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22 hours ago, kfools said:

Every hundred years they come.

 

No, there have been more and more in the past 50 years.

AIDS, Ebola, SARS, etc...

 

Even if you think over a million covid deaths was a 'dud', just looking at Trump's response to the thing should be enough to convince you that he doesn't give a fuck who dies, or who will die from the next pandemic.

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24 minutes ago, Toldya said:

 

No, there have been more and more in the past 50 years.

AIDS, Ebola, SARS, etc...

Those weren't deadly plagues. Not on a widespread scale.

24 minutes ago, Toldya said:

Even if you think over a million covid deaths was a 'dud', just looking at Trump's response to the thing should be enough to convince you that he doesn't give a fuck who dies, or who will die from the next pandemic.

He saved over a million lives if the CDC projections early on are to be believed. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, kfools said:

Those weren't deadly plagues. Not on a widespread scale.

 

AIDS is a widespread deadly plague.

 

13 minutes ago, kfools said:

He saved over a million lives if the CDC projections early on are to be believed. 

 

A competent leader would have saved more.

The only way more would have been lost is if he hadn't done the bare minimum.

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Just now, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

how?

 

this is  a serious  question 

 

By not forcing the states to compete for overpriced and not always usable supplies, by implementing strategies at the national level and promoting co-operation between states, etc.

 

Other countries adopted these measures.

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Just now, Toldya said:

not forcing the states to compete for overpriced and not always usable supplies,

 

 

this is an   untrue  statement, not only that  you can't  come  up with a  solution to that problem  now can you?

 

1 minute ago, Toldya said:

, by implementing strategies at the national level

 

 

such as...    (this is what  we really want to  hear)

 

 

2 minutes ago, Toldya said:

d promoting co-operation between states, etc.

 

 

how did the  states  not cooperate?      What powers  and more  importantly,  responsibility does the President have here?

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7 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

this is an   untrue  statement, not only that  you can't  come  up with a  solution to that problem  now can you?

 

https://apnews.com/article/bba8c890271ed9651d7682e81ce2c5e4

 

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The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services confirmed Wednesday that the federal cupboard is officially bare at least through this month after it was able to fulfill just a sliver of states’ requests.

The development is not a complete surprise. Last month, President Donald Trump told governors to take care of their own needs. States said they were trying but that bidding in a global marketplace for the supplies was highly competitive and expensive, pitting states against each other, their own hospital systems and other countries, including the U.S. government.

New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a Republican, said his state has been pursuing multiple avenues to obtain personal protective equipment since the severity of the coronavirus outbreak became apparent.

“Whether it’s the commercial market, whether it’s overseas, whether it’s partnering with other states, we’ve been scouring literally the planet for a variety of PPE,” he said.

States also have begun working together, whether its forming regional alliances to create greater purchasing power or sending excess supplies to hot spots.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said this week his state, the nation’s most populous, plans to spend nearly $1 billion to buy 500 million masks from May through July with the idea of distributing them throughout the Western U.S. State officials have said they won’t be setting up a new supply chain, but rather sharing with states that have a high need. California had spent $1.4 billion on medical equipment even before announcing its ramped-up purchases.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said her state has joined with others in the Great Lakes region to gain buying power. By last week, Michigan, which has more cases than all but two other states, had spent $130 million on medical supplies to address the crisis.

Montana Gov. Steve Bullock said his state has received five times as many masks from neighboring North Dakota as from the national stockpile. Vermont officials said they’ve worked with other New England states to acquire protective gear.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday that he will propose that states form a purchasing consortium when he takes over as chairman of the National Governors Association this fall.

“If the federal government’s not going to do it, then the states have to do it,” he said. “But what happened now can’t happen again. And it can’t continue to happen.”

He estimated that New York has spent at least $1 billion in its response to the coronavirus outbreak.

Even when the federal government was distributing from its stockpile, most states found that it provided only a fraction of what they needed. In early March, the federal government had said the nation could need as many as 3.5 billion N95 respirator masks over the next year. It delivered 11.7 million to states, just a fraction of the estimated need, according to data released by the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Reform. Deliveries of other gear also fell well below the amounts requested.

 

 

Does this seriously sound like Trump is doing a good job? States forming their own independent allegiances and helping each other out as if the entire central government doesn't even fucking exist?? The feds sending out tiny amounts of supplies, states getting more supplies by ignoring Trump completely and doing their own independent negotiations??

 

What a fucking shitshow. And I am willing to bet that if Biden gets in and does some digging, he will realize that most of the people jacking up the prices and profiting from this shitshow the most are Trump allies.

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5 minutes ago, Toldya said:

Does this seriously sound like Trump is doing a good job? States forming their own independent allegiances and helping each other out as if the entire central government doesn't even fucking exist??

 

 

 

answer these

 

Were the states  allowed to  stockpile supplies  before the   pandemic?

 

What is the   federal government's  responsibility to the states   under  federalism?

 

Do you  actually  understand  how our system works?

 

The governors have tremendous  power for a  reason 

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6 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

 

answer these

 

Were the states  allowed to  stockpile supplies  before the   pandemic?

 

What is the   federal government's  responsibility to the states   under  federalism?

 

Do you  actually  understand  how our system works?

 

The governors have tremendous  power for a  reason 

 

Most planned to rely on the national stockpile, and Trump could have at the very fucking least not continued to ship masks and other equipment to China in the early stages of the pandemic. But he did it to make money, and because his re-election strategy involved denying that it was a problem.

 

Considering how utterly fucking incompetent the president is, relying on Trump for anything is a phenomenally bad choice... I guess they were still hoping that he wasn't actually as bad as he is.

 

There are several nations that treated covid seriously in the beginning, had a coordinated national response, and as a result their citizens are basically free to live their lives. Trump did the opposite.

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I think people are ignoring the real questions that this virus raises.

 

With the massive amount of travel and urban living in our modern world it is actually just a matter of time before son plague wipes out billions of people. Not a question of if but when.

 

Interestingly this would fulfill some biblical prophecy. Related tobthay observation cities seem to be the epicenter of degeneracy and disobedience to god. I am not even religious I just find that interesting to note.

 

Anyway the most important moment in this virus was when we know a serious pandemic had started in China but we did not shut down travel from China. It is quite possible that the USA would escape this disaster if we has done that and did it quickly.

 

So why didn't we? I dont know. This is what all of us should be asking our leaders.

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2 minutes ago, Toldya said:

Most planned to rely on the national stockpile,

 

whose  fault is that?    The governors 

 

3 minutes ago, Toldya said:

Trump could have at the very fucking least not continued to ship masks and other equipment to China in the early stages of the pandemic.

 

Oh so helping  countries is  bad now?  We had no ide  that  China was  trying to  harm us at the time.

 

4 minutes ago, Toldya said:

he did it to make money, and because his re-election strategy involved denying that it was a problem.

 

huh?    TDS much?    explain this

 

5 minutes ago, Toldya said:

Considering how utterly fucking incompetent the president is, relying on Trump for anything is a phenomenally bad choice

 

 

He is remarkably COMPETENT.    You don't  know what you are talking about.   you  don't  know  how  our country  operates

 

6 minutes ago, Toldya said:

There are several nations that treated covid seriously in the beginning, had a coordinated national response, and as a result their citizens are basically free to live their lives.

 

 

again you compare apples to  oranges, and  you  obviously  do  not understand  the   Constitution  

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, PhilipIV said:

Anyway the most important moment in this virus was when we know a serious pandemic had started in China but we did not shut down travel from China. It is quite possible that the USA would escape this disaster if we has done that and did it quickly.

 

The virus that hit the US came via Europe.

There were mutations in its DNA that proved it.

Plus, the US was still allowing US citizens to arrive from China.

 

China definitely dropped the ball early on, but that's still no excuse for the ineptitude of the Trump admin's response.

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