123urout Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, supraTruth said: Not after I get the vaccine, moron. Vaccine for the flu? LOL..How stupid are you actually? Is there a number identified for that yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RayDonavin Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, supraTruth said: Then we smart people will get the vaccine every year, like we already do the flu shots. But the flu vaccine is only 35% effective at best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supraTruth Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, 123urout said: Vaccine for the flu? LOL..How stupid are you actually? Is there a number identified for that yet? I already get the flu vaccine every year. U too stupid to do so? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supraTruth Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, RayDonavin said: But the flu vaccine is only 35% effective at best. Link? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123urout Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, supraTruth said: I already get the flu vaccine every year. U too stupid to do so? Never taken it, never got the flu. Tell me, what type of safe guards are they required to follow when developing these vaccines, do you have any clue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RayDonavin Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, supraTruth said: Link? https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/02/21/this-years-flu-vaccine-cdc-says-how-effective-it-is/#1f6755944706 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RayDonavin Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/effectiveness-studies.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RayDonavin Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-effective-is-the-flu-shot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123urout Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, FivebyFive said: cdc has been hacked py Putin.. Fauci knows nothing.. Only 30 years of experience Yet you demand Trump listens to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supraTruth Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, RayDonavin said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/02/21/this-years-flu-vaccine-cdc-says-how-effective-it-is/#1f6755944706 Proving your % was pulled out of your ass. Reduces hospitalizations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RayDonavin Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, FivebyFive said: no comments on your links is a sign of weakness health.com LOL Okay retard find a few yourself, search "effectiveness of the flu vaccine". You can if you read them find out that effectiveness varies from 10% to 60% depending on your health and age. And the fact that the vaccine doesn't start working immediately but up untl a month after you get the vaccine. Expect the same for whatever vaccine is brought to us for the CCP virus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RayDonavin Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, supraTruth said: Proving your % was pulled out of your ass. Reduces hospitalizations. Okay retard find a few yourself, search "effectiveness of the flu vaccine". You can if you read them find out that effectiveness varies from 10% to 60% depending on your health and age. And the fact that the vaccine doesn't start working immediately but up untl a month after you get the vaccine. Expect the same for whatever vaccine is brought to us for the CCP virus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supraTruth Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 https://twitter.com/Liberal_Forum/status/1320468476235046918?s=20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123urout Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, supraTruth said: Proving your % was pulled out of your ass. Reduces hospitalizations. WAKE UP. Do you not know that they guess on what to immunize you against? Getting the vaccine for the flu is lunacy. Why the hell would you let them inject you with a guess for something that has a 99.5 percent survival rate any ways? I would have to say if you are that terrified of dying , you are worried about where you are going when you do. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supraTruth Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, 123urout said: WAKE UP. Do you not know that they guess on what to immunize you against? Getting the vaccine for the flu is lunacy. Why the hell would you let them inject you with a guess for something that has a 99.5 percent survival rate any ways? I would have to say if you are that terrified of dying , you are worried about where you are going when you do. The more people u are around the more protection u need, how ever effective. The only year I got the flu in the last 4 years was the year I didn't get the vaccine. I'll keep getting it & u can walk off a cliff for all I care. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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supraTruth Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 As virus spreads across GOP ranks, some Republicans say party will pay price for ‘stupid’ approach “There was a panic before this started, but now we’re sort of the stupid party,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America. “Candidates are being forced to defend themselves every day on whether they agree with this or that, in terms of what the president did on the virus.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROG62 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, supraTruth said: Then we smart people will get the vaccine every year, like we already do the flu shots. "Then we smart people"... BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA...'nuf said... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROG62 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, supraTruth said: I already get the flu vaccine every year. U too stupid to do so? Ive never gotten a flu shot...and I haven't gotten the flu either... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supraTruth Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, ROG62 said: Ive never gotten a flu shot...and I haven't gotten the flu either... I guess that makes u a Proud Boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supraTruth Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200331/Eight-strains-of-coronavirus-afflicting-the-world.aspx Eight strains of coronavirus afflicting the world Download PDF Copy By Dr. Liji Thomas, MDMar 31 2020 Scientists around the world are racing to study the novel coronavirus strain severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). Now, it appears that there are eight strains of SARS-CoV-2 circulating the globe. The good news is that according to infectious disease physician and clinical microbiologist Charles Chiu, “The virus mutates so slowly that the virus strains are fundamentally very similar to each other.” Using advanced technology to rapidly sequence the virus from test samples, the researchers show that there are only very minute differences between the different strains, and none of them enhances viral virulence. Moreover, say the scientists, no strains are becoming more dangerous with continuing mutational change. Scientists studying the virus have shared their knowledge to compile a genetic sequence map at NextStrain.org, an open-access website that shows how the various strains have traveled to different regions and countries. This finding is based on over 2,000 sequences of the viral genome that have been shared with the researchers so far. Samples have come in from all continents except Antarctica. Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus. Image Credit: Nextstrain Referring to the transmission of the virus as trackable, Chiu also says, “We have the ability to do genomic sequencing almost in real-time to see what strains or lineages are circulating.” Why is genetic tracking important? The disease is asymptomatic or mild in up to 80% of people but causes pneumonia, respiratory failure, and death in up to 5% to 6% of cases overall if not treated. If the virus were to mutate, on the other hand, and become more lethal, it would make it all the more difficult for researchers to develop an effective vaccine based on viral antigens. For instance, the seasonal flu has a vaccine – but it has to be updated every single year because of the many and rapid mutations that have led to the emergence of several different strains of the influenza virus. Each year, the scientists must decipher which of these strains are floating around most commonly and ensure the vaccine contains those strains. In contrast, viruses such as varicella and measles viruses mutate slowly, and hence immunizing shots against them offer immunity for many years, perhaps lifelong. In this single respect, the SARS-CoV-2 appears to be more like them than like the flu virus. Even though the study shows that the virus is mutating only once every 15 days or so, the mutations are “completely benign and useful as a puzzle piece to uncover how the virus is spreading,” according to NextStrain founder Trevor Bedford. Is the coronavirus mutating? The first step in genetic research of SARS-CoV-2 was taken by China when geneticists first brought out the sequence of the viral genome. This information, says researcher Peter Thielen, shows a closer similarity with the behavior of varicella and measles. Moreover, the early availability of the viral genetic sequence helped with the work of vaccine development. RELATED STORIES How an ignored white blood cell may cause COVID-19 deaths Silent hypoxia and its role in COVID-19 detection Study shows coronavirus thrives in dry air with low humidity At present, says Thielen, they are exploring whether the virus genome is changing from that initially published genome, and how rapidly this process is occurring. The experiments being carried out so far focus on the mutations and have helped them arrive at a tentative mutation rate. Moreover, it will help tell how well lockdown measures are working to contain the viral spread, as the type of virus being transmitted will be obvious on genetic sequencing. If there is widespread community transmission within a region, it will show that lockdown orders have been breached routinely. On the other hand, a significant reduction in transmission would allow the lockdown to be eased. The report, published online on March 27, is in the form of a genetic tracking map based on this data. The findings The study showed that the virus first reached the UK from Wuhan, China, traveling to Singapore and South Korea. The next step was to spread via flight passengers to London. From there, the large city airport was the hub from where the virus spread to the rest of Europe and the USA. At present, say the scientists, there is still “strong mixing of samples across Europe, suggesting that the virus has continued to move across borders in the last 3-5 weeks.” Once the lockdown measures begin to show more effect, say the investigators, the outcome will be clusters of transmission of each type or strain of the virus in different countries. In the US, however, the viral samples from opposite sides of the country are almost identical. For instance, in the state of Washington, the virus has been introduced two times, and perhaps more. The origin is thought to either be China or Europe. The effect is visible as two separate chains of viral spread. However, in California and several other states, the virus is seen to be probably spreading within the community rather than being introduced from outside, say the scientists. This is because many of the cases on the West Coast are very similar to a Washington strain, which in turn is only three mutations away from the first strain of the virus to be found, say the investigators. In central and South America, the pattern is not clear as only a few samples have been taken. The new sequences already received have been incorporated into the map, but the viral activity could be more intense than shown. When it comes to Asia, the researchers insist that it looks like some cases came from Iran recently. In Africa, the genetic tracking suggests that the virus is being transmitted locally within Kinshasa, a large city in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, for over 11 days now. Here too, the number of samples is low, and the picture showing little COVID-19 activity is likely to be misleading. In Oceania, local viral spread is occurring in New South Wales, Australia, according to the study. What does this mean? Based on these studies, says Thielen, they have come to the preliminary conclusion that “this would likely be a single vaccine rather than one that needs to be updated each year, like the flu shot.” The first vaccine will likely be available all over the world in a year or 18 months. Cautions Kristian Anderson, who also researches the pattern of transmission, “We have half a million described cases right now but maybe 1,000 genomes sequenced. So there are a lot of lineages we’re missing.” Sources: Using Nextstrain narratives to explain WNV spread and evolution - https://nextstrain.org/blog/2019-10-31-using-narratives-to-explain-west-nile-virus-spread Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus - https://nextstrain.org/ncov Tracking a pandemic: Q&A with a COVID-19 detective - https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2020/03/tracking-covid-19-trevor-bedford.html How coronavirus mutations can track its spread—and disprove conspiracies - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/03/how-coronavirus-mutations-can-track-its-spread-and-disprove-conspiracies/ Salo, J. (2020). At Least 8 Strains of the Coronavirus Are Spreading Across the Globe. https://nypost.com/2020/03/29/at-least-8-strains-of-the-coronavirus-are-spreading-across-the-globe/ Dailymail.co.uk. (2020). How London Became A Covid-19 Hub as Virus Mutated Into Eight Different Strains and Raced Around The World - As Coronavirus Around The World As Global Cases Top 666,000 And Deaths Hit 30,864. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164615/Genetic-sequencing-data-map-shows-London-coronavirus-hub.html Written by Dr. Liji Thomas Dr. Liji Thomas is an OB-GYN, who graduated from the Government Medical College, University of Calicut, Kerala, in 2001. Liji practiced as a full-time consultant in obstetrics/gynecology in a private hospital for a few years following her graduation. She has counseled hundreds of patients facing issues from pregnancy-related problems and infertility, and has been in charge of over 2,000 deliveries, striving always to achieve a normal delivery rather than operative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROG62 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, supraTruth said: I guess that makes u a Proud Boy. Nope...I've never gotten the flu, so I never felt the need to get it... not rocket science... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SixShooter Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 43 minutes ago, ROG62 said: Nope...I've never gotten the flu, so I never felt the need to get it... not rocket science... Had the flu one time about 20 years ago, laid in bed and didn't care if I lived or died. Serious shit. I never get the flu shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROG62 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, SixShooter said: Had the flu one time about 20 years ago, laid in bed and didn't care if I lived or died. Serious shit. I never get the flu shot. Well, when they're guessing which strain from the yr prior to put in and waging effectiveness at under %40...figured it's not worth the time, effort and/or risk... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toldya Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 2:07 AM, SixShooter said: Read much dumdum? Did I say any of that? It's not transmissible among normal people except for unsafe promiscuous sex and blood transfusions (almost unheard of now with screening). Mostly passed around by perverted faggots engaging in m/m butt sex. 100% preventable. Or are you claiming it can be contracted from toilet seats? Because all you faggot lovers assured us it canNOT. I know it's not airborne. Right? Maybe if you let yourself become hateful enough, all the other words will lose their true meanings too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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