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3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I am not talking solely about this election. What about 2024, 2028, 2032? If a Democrat wins those or any other after that, are you going to reflexively contend that the election was rigged?

 

After Trump .  .  .  nothing will ever be the same !

 

He has changed the rules of the game for good !

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Biden is ahead in every poll. If Trump wins, the election is rigged. This is the opposite message to what Trump is saying. It needs to be pointed out that Trump is so far behind in the polls,

Precisely. Another "rigged" election.

Yea like 2016 lol 😆 

4 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

we're all adults bill, get over it...

 

Tell it to the families who will lose loved ones due to Trump's ongoing recklessness.

 

"Get over it." Trumpism encapsulated.

 

Bill

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52 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

Biden doesn't have cognitive decline.

 

You keep insisting that. Tells you something eh?

 

52 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

And politicians using prompters isn't new.

 

Bill

 

No, but NEEDING them to answer questions, reading the HEADERS, and gasping "move it up here" IS new!

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4 minutes ago, SixShooter said:

 

You keep insisting that. Tells you something eh?

 

 

No, but NEEDING them to answer questions, reading the HEADERS, and gasping "move it up here" IS new!

 

Yes, it tells me that you keep making false charges that I counter.

 

When Trump loses his prompter, he talks about capturing airports during the Revolutionary War. LOL.

 

Bill

 

 

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1 minute ago, SpyCar said:

When Trump loses his prompter, he talks about capturing airports during the Revolutionary War. LOL.

 

You keep trying to compare fumbling one word or getting a fact wrong with THIS:

 

 

 

Shit, Bill, he sounds like he's fucking DYING.

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2 hours ago, SpyCar said:

Accusing others of being "slime" is pretty ironic, Trumpist.

 

So what's the problem, CUPCAKE?   You couldn't come up with a name of someone that Trump supposedly raped who accusation you think you can defend?   Making an accusation like that and then being unwilling/unable to back it up qualifies you as SLIME.   See folks?  SC once again proves that he's nothing but TDS laden, HOT AIR.  And empty suit.   He RUNS whenever challenged to actually defend his slimy accusations or RUNS when offered proof  his *chosen* idols have committed crimes ... everything from treason to rape to, perhaps, murder.   He can't even defend the guy who he's going to vote for in November ... vote for knowing full well that from Day 1 he won't be able to fulfill the duties of office.   And that is why he's hiding who he's really voting for ... because he knows we'll likely be able to prove they too are SLIME.  You and your party are literally oozing with it, snowflake.   And you know it ...

 

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5 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

 

So what's the problem, CUPCAKE?   You couldn't come up with a name of someone that Trump supposedly raped who accusation you think you can defend?   Making an accusation like that and then being unwilling/unable to back is up qualifies you as SLIME.   See folks?  SC once again proves that he's nothing but TDS laden, HOT AIR.  And empty suit.   He RUNS whenever challenged to actually defend his slimy accusations or RUNS when offered proof  his *chosen* idols have committed crimes ... everything from treason to rape to, perhaps, murder.   He can't even defend the guy who he's going to vote for in November ... vote for knowing full well that from Day 1 he won't be able to fulfill the duties of office.   And that is why he's hiding who he's really voting for ... because he knows we'll likely be able to prove they too are SLIME.  You and your party are literally oozing with it, snowflake.   And you know it ...

 

 

 

I'm REALLY voting for Joseph R. Biden, Jr.

 

Get over it.

 

The women who've accused Trump of rape are in the public record. I'm sure they are many many more, given his caught-on-tape admission of sexual assault.

 

You are one sick fuck.

 

Bill

 

 

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1 minute ago, SpyCar said:

 

Tell it to the families who will lose loved ones due to Trump's ongoing recklessness.

 

"Get over it." Trumpism encapsulated.

 

Bill

Sure bill...ok

 

no opinion about cuomo's, newsome's, whitmer's, wolf's or murphy's recklessness bill?

 

 Ya, you know them bill, the ones who defy President Trump at every turn, right bill?

You do realize bill, they're all dimocratic govenors?

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3 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

Sure bill...ok

 

no opinion about cuomo's, newsome's, whitmer's, wolf's or murphy's recklessness bill?

 

 Ya, you know them bill, the ones who defy President Trump at every turn, right bill?

You do realize bill, they're all dimocratic govenors?

 

I don't recall any of these governors denigrating mask wearing or social distancing, nor do any of them hold super-spreader events to this day.

 

Only Trump does that.

 

Bill

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1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

Of course he mocked the reported for his disability.

 

No he didn't.   You're a LIAR, SLIME, as we can easily prove once again by citing sourced facts.


http://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

 

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The True Story: Donald Trump Did Not Mock a Reporter’s Disability
 
At the Democratic National Convention speakers are repeating the claim, amplified ad nauseam by the left and establishment GOP opponents over the past year, that Donald Trump mocked the disability of New York Times reporter, Serge Kovaleski. This accusation has served as a very convenient tool to both smear Trump’s character and to avoid having to confront him on substantive political issues. But is it true? Here is the story the media is not telling you.
 
It all started  on November 21, 2015 when, at a rally, Trump said he remembered seeing reports of Arab Americans celebrating the 9/11 terror attacks on rooftops in New Jersey shortly after the twin towers fell. As he told George Stephanopolous in an interview the next day on ABC’s “This Week”:
 

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TRUMP: “There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey, where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down. I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering…as those buildings came down. And that tells you something…”


Stephanopolous and all of the major news outlets immediately denied the existence of any such news reports following 9/11. One paper, the Washington Post, even went so far as to write a detailed article claiming to “fact check” Mr. Trump. After an exhaustive review, the Post lectured that there was absolutely no evidence of Trump’s claim and deemed it false.
 
Imagine the Washington Post’s surprise when Trump uncovered one of the Washington Post’s own reporters, Serge Kovaleski, supporting the claim in an article Kovaleski wrote for them on September 18, 2001. Kovaleski wrote:
 

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In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.


Very embarrassing for the media, especially the Washington Post which had done such a great job scouring news reports after 9/11 that they missed their very own story on the subject. It was in this state of embarrassment that the media was desperate to distract from the matter. The Washington Post ended up finding  Kovaleski, now writing for the New York Times, so he could do damage control. Kovaleski predictably tried to backtrack from his 2001 account saying he didn’t remember the details:
 

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“I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating,” said Serge Kovaleski, one of the reporters. “That was not the case, as best as I can remember.”


Enter Donald Trump’s rally in South Carolina soon thereafter. During the rally Trump pointed all of this out and paraphrased Kovaleski’s backtracking as he impersonated a groveling reporter changing his story under pressure. While he did this, Trump moved his hands around quickly, acting flustered.
 
Soon thereafter, the media revealed still photos of Kovaleski with his right hand in a permanently flexed position downward announcing that he was disabled. The media then shifted from trying to defend their oversight of the 9/11 Post article and instead, with disapproving shocked outrage, accused Trump of mocking a reporter’s disability. Some liberals went even further and freeze-framed a millisecond of the Trump video at the exact moment when his hand went into a flexed posture. Then they dishonestly put this screen capture side by side with a picture of Kovaleski’s flexed hand. Thus, you saw the following photo spread like wildfire over social media with commentary condescendingly and horrifyingly excoriating trump as a monster:
 
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 The media’s clear implication was that Trump was mocking the way Kovaleski moved his arms. People watching the clip of Trump’s impersonation only knew that Kovaleski was disabled. Thus, they naturally assumed Kovaleski’s disability must be similar to cerebral palsy where he has limited control of his movements and is prone to have muscle spasms or move his arms in jerky motions as Trump was doing at the rally. This is precisely the image the media wanted in people’s minds. They wanted this to be the story: that Donald trump knowingly and intentionally mocked the flailing arm motions of someone who can’t control his muscles. They knew this would naturally trigger a visceral reaction of disgust from viewers and outrage amongst the disabled and all decent Americans, many of whom, to this day, think this is exactly what happened. Is it?
 
What the media did not choose to show you was video of Serge Kovaleski. Notice how the media only showed and still shows photos of him. This was done for a reason. As it turns out, Kovaleski’s disability is a congenital condition called arthrogryposis. Arthrogryposis causes restricted movement in the joints but does not cause spasms or uncontrolled moving of the limbs like cerebral palsy does.   To show the depths of the deceit, one CNN reporter explained, while displaying a still photo of him, that Kovaleski, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA] “suffers from a chronic condition that impairs movement of his arms.”  Again, the implication is that Kovaleski can’t control his arms from moving. To the contrary, Kovaleski appears perfectly calm when giving interviews. Thus, if Trump truly wanted to mock Kovaleski’s disability, he would have had to stand perfectly still with a flexed right hand and not flail his arms. don’t believe me? Watch the video:

 

 

 

 


In addition, Trump used the same flailing arm movements in a South Carolina rally to impersonate a flustered Ted Cruz being asked about waterboarding. To my knowledge Cruz is not physically disabled:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4604reEqk0 (BAC - video now removed by leftist Youtube)
 
Thus the true story is as follows: Donald Trump embarrassed the media by finding the 9/11 Washington Post article. The media found the reporter who tried to backtrack. Trump impersonated the reporter backtracking. Media points out the reporter is disabled, but only releases still photos of his flexed hand. Public assumes from Trump’s impersonation and being told by the media that he is mocking a disabled man that the reporter must not be able to control his arms and Trump is a dirtbag who hates the disabled. In reality muscle spasms or involuntary arm movements are not part of the reporter’s disability. Therefore Trump could not be mocking a disability that doesn’t exist. Hear Trump respond to the claim below, which perfectly coincides with the series of events described above:
 


Thus, Trump’s impersonations of a flustered reporter several months ago was turned into a left-wing and Establishment GOP narrative whereby Trump somehow hates the disabled. This despite the fact that Trump has given millions to charities that help the disabled including raising nearly six million dollars for Wounded Warriors just recently, a million of which was his own money. In addition, Liz Crokin, a journalist that has covered Donald trump for ten years ( http://townhall.com/columnists/lizcrokin/2016/07/10/trump-does-the-unthinkable-n2190160 recalls the following:
 

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In 1988, a commercial airline refused to fly Andrew Ten, a sick Orthodox Jewish child with a rare illness, across the country to get medical care because he had to travel with an elaborate life-support system. His grief stricken parents contacted Trump for help and he didn’t hesitate to http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/airline-couldnt-help-sick-child-so-donald-trump-came-to-the-rescue/ send his own plane to take the child from Los Angeles to New York so he could get his treatment…
 
In 2000, Maury Povich featured a little girl named Megan who struggled with Brittle Bone Disease on his show and Trump happened to be watching. Trump said the little girl’s story and positive attitude touched his heart. So he  ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bY_QmA9Vu4 (BAC - another video lost probably due to the leftist youtube's support for democRATS) contacted Maury and gifted the little girl and her family with a very generous check

Please keep this in mind and spread the word whenever you hear the left continually claim Trump is against disabled people at the Democratic Convention this week.
 
UPDATED on 7/28/16
 
It turns out that at the very same South Carolina rally Trump imitated Kovaleski, he also used similar arm and hand gestures to imitate a very non-disabled general who was asked about ISIS. Do you remember the media reporting this? Watch below:
 


 
Also, in addition to Kovaleski’s 2001 Washington Post piece, further confirmation of Trump’s recollection came out to embarrass the media. As it turns out, Trump’s story was also confirmed ( http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/ )on a local CBS station shortly after 9/11:
 

 

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…Just a couple of blocks away from that Jersey City apartment the F.B.I. raided yesterday and had evidence removed, there is another apartment building, one that investigators told me, quote, was swarming with suspects — suspects who I’m told were cheering on the roof when they saw the planes slam into the Trade Center. Police were called to the building by neighbors and found eight men celebrating , six of them tenants in the building.
 
The F.B.I. and other terrorist task force agencies arrived, and the older investigators on the task force recalled that they had been to this building before, eight years ago, when the first World Trade Center attack led them to Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, whose Jersey City mosque lies between the two buildings getting attention today. And the older investigators remember that the suspects that eventually got convicted for the first Trade Center case … lived in the building where these same eight men were celebrating the destruction that they saw from the roof. Calling this a hot address, the task force investigators ordered everyone detained…

 

 


You're a proven LIAR, SC, who goes around repeating proven LIES, even years after they were soundly debunked on this forum.    You're the very definition of SLIME, cupcake.  When dahur kept repeating this garbage he got called a dishonest lowlife.   Slime?  A dishonest lowlife?   I see no difference.

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1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

Biden doesn't have cognitive decline.

 

The fact that you even say this, given all the evidence out there, says that either YOU have a cognitive decline or you're lying because you want Biden to be a Potemkin candidate that will get someone else in the Oval Office.   CommieLa?  Hillary?   Or those behind them?   All who would be less electable than Weekend At Bernie's Biden (which tells you how radical they are, folks).    And that is why you can't be honest about who you are voting for, cupcake.

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1 minute ago, BeAChooser said:

 

The fact that you even say this, given all the evidence out there, says that either YOU have a cognitive decline or you're lying because you want Biden to be a Potemkin candidate that will get someone else in the Oval Office.   CommieLa?  Hillary?   Or those behind them?   All who would be less electable than Weekend At Bernie's Biden (which tells you how radical they are, folks).    And that is why you can't be honest about who you are voting for, cupcake.

 

You need psychiatric medications. 

 

Bill

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1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

I have heard this "election is rigged" claim dozens and dozens of times from both sides over the span of 30 years. 

 

Yeah, but this time it really does look rigged ... against Trump.   The evidence is staring you in the face, fence sitter.

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26 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

The women who've accused Trump of rape are in the public record. I'm sure they are many many more, given his caught-on-tape admission of sexual assault.

 

You are one sick fuck.

 

NAME ONE.   You're only proving that YOU are the "sick fuck" SLIME.

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3 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

You need psychiatric medications. 

 

Pluck pluck pluck.   You're the one with delusions that Biden will win, cupcake.   You're the one with delusions that Biden is mentally capable of holding office.  You're the one that thinks Biden isn't hiding in his basement because of his deteriorating mental capacity.   You're the one who believes Hillary and Bill weren't criminals of the first order.   You're the one who think Obama isn't a hardcore communist.   You're the one who believes CO2 spells the world's doom.   And I could go on and on and on listing issues where you are the one in complete denial of the facts and evidence.   You're the one in need of psychiatric medications, snowflake, and I predict after the election you'll either be gone from here ... or on them.   Just saying ... B)

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Just now, BeAChooser said:

 

Pluck pluck pluck.   You're the one with delusions that Biden will win, cupcake.   You're the one with delusions that Biden is mentally capable of holding office.  You're the one that thinks Biden isn't hiding in his basement because of his deteriorating mental capacity.   You're the one who believes Hillary and Bill weren't criminals of the first order.   You're the one who think Obama isn't a hardcore communist.   You're the one who believes CO2 spells the world's doom.   And I could go on and on and on listing issues where you are the one in complete denial of the facts and evidence.   You're the one in need of psychiatric medications, snowflake, and I predict after the election you'll either be gone from here ... or on them.   Just saying ... B)

 

Delusions? You are the only one of us who is delusional.

 

Do you really believe Barack Obama is a communist? LOL.

 

Comedy gold.

 

You  need medications. Why doesn't anyone help you?

 

You are a very sick man. Get help.

 

Bill

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1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

Do you really believe Barack Obama is a communist? LOL.

 

Yes, and I've got a whole thread on the topic with a challenge to anyone that I will leave the forum if they can name a president with more hardcore socialists/communists in his inner circle over his life than Obama.   I seem to recall you running from that thread, you gutless SNOWFLAKE, like you do ANY challenge to debate.   

 

1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

You  need medications.

 

No, snowflake, it's already settled that you're the one in need of medications.

 

1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

You are a very sick man.

 

Says the slime who makes vague accusations that Trump raped women and then RUNS when challenged to prove it.


Says the slime who supported and defended Bill Clinton, who arguably did rape multiple women.

 

Says the slime who supported Hillary, who smeared the women who credibly accused Clinton of rape and sexual assault.

 

Says the slime who RUNS when offered a chance to debate the facts in any of those cases.

 

Says the slime who defended/defends a couple who committed almost any crime one can name.

 

:rolleyes:

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8 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

 

Yes, and I've got a whole thread on the topic with a challenge to anyone that I will leave the forum if they can name a president with more hardcore socialists/communists in his inner circle over his life than Obama.   I seem to recall you running from that thread, you gutless SNOWFLAKE, like you do ANY challenge to debate.   

 

 

No, snowflake, it's already settled that you're the one in need of medications.

 

 

Says the slime who makes vague accusations that Trump raped women and then RUNS when challenged to prove it.


Says the slime who supported and defended Bill Clinton, who arguably did rape multiple women.

 

Says the slime who supported Hillary, who smeared the women who credibly accused Clinton of rape and sexual assault.

 

Says the slime who RUNS when offered a chance to debate the facts in any of those cases.

 

Says the slime who defended/defends a couple who committed almost any crime one can name.

 

:rolleyes:

 

You are certifiably insane. 

 

Bill

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3 hours ago, BeAChooser said:

 

You are RUNNING on EVERY FRONT.   Pluck, pluck, pluck.  *Bill*

 

 

^^^ The crazy man is making chicken noises again.

 

Mary, barr the doors! LOL.

 

Bill

 

 

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