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2 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

 

No, you LYING MORON.  It's fact that Dohrn was in the apartment when the nail bombs they'd built accidentally detonated.   Ayers might have been.    Don't kid yourself, Dohrn's knew full well what the group she WILLINGLY belonged to was doing in the apartment at the time .   So did Ayeres.   It doesn't matter that Ayer's wasn't building the nail bombs himself, because Ayers DESIGNED them.  He knew the target.   This is widely acknowledged and amongst the things the government proved. 

 

 

Good God you're STUPID and UNINFORMED.  Go read up on the matter.   Ayers got off on a technicality ... that the government obtained evidence against him *illegally*.

 

 

Heavens you are STUPID.  Not just gullible.   STUPID.   You debate and think like a 911 Truther.   Totally illogical and divorced from the facts.  

 

No wonder you support Biden and communists, *dr* of *whatever*.

 

 

Nothing but insults and undocumented assertions. You should be a CNN pundit.

 

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_____________________________________________________________________________________________   That's like saying Chuck Manson never actually killed anyone either.   So in short

Ayers turned himself in,  but the government's evidence against him was all obtained illegally,and was inadmissible. So he did no time.

21 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

This does not mean that they were dumb about their objective, which was to end the godamned Vietnam War.

 

See the rationalizations the communist idiots on this thread will offer to justify a plot to kill SCORES of innocent men and women at a dance with NAIL BOMBS?  

 

These leftist posters on this thread are DISGUSTING.  

 

And if the rest of you *liberals* elect Biden and CommieLA, you'll be putting people JUST LIKE THEM in the WhiteHouse.  

 

Is the democRAT base really that STUPID?

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4 minutes ago, drvoke said:

Nothing but insults and undocumented assertions.

 

Go ahead, *dr* of *whatever* ... double down on stupidity.  Your side started this conversation denying the Weathermen, not just Ayers, threatened anyone or even *intended* to harm anyone.   So you are still denying that the Weathermen were building nail bombs (not just one but a bunch of them) with the intent of killing men and women at a military DANCE?   Hmmmm?   Show us just how divorced from reality and SICK you really are, *dr*.

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28 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

And who will have to enforce that law?  An unreliable sedition DOJ?   A group of generals that Trump perhaps can't depend on following his orders?   Sorry, but the facts of what's been happening (100 days of rioting with NO intervention by the National Guard or military) and the openly seditious state of our government doesn't convince me of what you're now saying.  

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Either you have been listening to the fake news satanic ultraliberal agenda driven media or do not understand the Military.

 

Any General who does not obey a order from a Superior Officer right away will be arrested and court martialed. (of course there are [very] few exceptions.)  He / She would be put out of the Service with a dishonorable discharge and loose their pension. 

 

Also...99% of the personal in the Service take pride in belonging and dog anyone who is singled out. For example few would salute the said General and than take punishment which would minimum. Enlisted personal would have to wear the field pack as a scarlet letter and everyone in sigh would FK with them.

 

The reason riots have been going on for months is because the ultraliberal mayors are allowing it since they are down with blood.

 

SEPT 9: National Guard troops complete Kenosha support mission

 

https://dma.wi.gov/DMA/news/2020news/20202://dma.wi.gov/DMA/news/2020news/20202

 

 

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3 hours ago, drvoke said:

 

Vietnam WAS a crime.  It is not OK, but it was necessary.  And remember, the people who determine what a crime even is are the same people who went along with the war. It might help you if you tried to frame this as an anti-gun issue. If the government tried to take your firearms etc. (don't use the word 'Constitution' if you reply to this. If you do, you have missed the point.)

 

 

Again, they were necessary crimes.

 

 

The 'crimes' were directed at the government FOR the people, who were being drafted into an illegal war, and for civilians overseas who were absolutely no threat to us.

 

If you have studied The Weather Underground, as I have, you would know to what great lengths they went to to avoid harming anyone. They cased the buildings. They only detonated bombs in unoccupied government buildings at night.

 

 

They weren't "necessary crimes". The proof is that they didn't accomplish anything.

 

Sure they blew up government buildings for my benefit right before I had to buy new buildings. With friends like that who needs enemies? And again, it didn't do anything for anybody.

 

Study the weather underground? They're a bunch of fucking communist and the only way I would study them is through a good set of optics.

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2 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

 

Go ahead, *dr* of *whatever* ... double down on stupidity.  Your side started this conversation denying the Weathermen, not just Ayers, threatened anyone or even *intended* to harm anyone.   So you are still denying that the Weathermen were building nail bombs (not just one but a bunch of them) with the intent of killing men and women at a military DANCE?   Hmmmm?   Show us just how divorced from reality and SICK you really are, *dr*.

 

 

If that were the case, they would have spent a great deal of time in prison. They didn't. 

And if my advanced educational attainments is a triggering event for you, that's on you, not me. I have nothing to apologize for. Grow up.

 

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Just now, Old Mack said:

Any General who does not obey a order from a Superior Officer right away will be arrested and court martialed.

 

By who, Mack?   Don't you get it?  The JCS has been working AGAINST Trump.   Members of it appear to have joined the effort to see Trump gone.  So who is going to give the order to have soldiers who elect NOT to shut down an insurrection arrested?   These generals?   They don't appear to be entirely reliable at this point.  There is a reason that Obama fired and replaced so many top commanders in the military over his two terms.   To ensure that democRATS were in charge.      If the current JCS were something we could rely on to remain impartial and do what you suggest, the I maintain that Vindman would already have been arrested and court martialed.   He hasn't.   And I don't know if you remember this, but a few months ago the demonstrations in Washington got so violent and so dangerous that Trump tried to bring in units of the military to put down what had become a near insurrection.  And the response of the JCS was NO. 

 

The current military is not the one you were in.  This one has been politicized.   That's the reality.

 

Just now, Old Mack said:

SEPT 9: National Guard troops complete Kenosha support mission

 

And why did the National Guard FINALLY get called into Kenosha, Mack?   Because the democRATS did a calculation and realized that continued rioting in that city was hurting their poll numbers.   So they only did it for partisan political reasons. But what coming after the election, assuming Trump wins, will be partisan political reasons for NOT bringing in the NG.

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6 minutes ago, drvoke said:

If that were the case, they would have spent a great deal of time in prison. They didn't. 

 

No, you idiot.  They were charged and then released ON A TECHNICALITY ... that the evidence showing "that were the case" was gathered illegally.   But they did what was charged and that's why they ran from the government for so many years.  And Ayers has said he has no regrets about what they did ... no regrets that they were going to bomb a military dance and kill scores of innocent people ... and bomb a bunch of other government buildings.    He wished he'd done more.   But you're too stupid to comprehend that.   I see that now.

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25 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

By who, Mack?   Don't you get it?  The JCS has been working AGAINST Trump.  

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Point 1: Who told you the JCS have been working against President Trump and remember the fake news satanic ultraliberal agenda driven media doesn't count.

 

Point 2: Enlisted MPs or Delta Force...supported by the 82nd Airborne.

 

BUT thank you for your opinion...I'll keep it in mind.

 

25 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

And why did the National Guard FINALLY get called into Kenosha, Mack?   

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Because the local POLs of Kenosha requested thier support immediately.

 

AUG 24:  National Guard called out to Kenosha after Sunday rioting

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/national-guard-kenosha-after-sunday-rioting

 

AUG 26:  Wisconsin governor doubles number of Guard troops authorized for Kenosha unrest

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/08/26/wisconsin-governor-doubles-number-of-guard-troops-authorized-for-kenosha-unrest/

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Old Mack said:

Point 1: Who told you the JCS have been working against President Trump and remember the fake news satanic ultraliberal agenda driven media doesn't count.

 

No, Mack, I have quite credible sources that have NOTHING to do with the ultraliberal media.

 

For EXAMPLE …


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/13/diana-west-discusses-ideological-pentagon-vs-a-pragmatic-commander-in-chief/

 

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Diana West Discusses Ideological Pentagon -VS- A Pragmatic Commander in Chief…


June 13, 2020


by sundance 


This is a little lengthy of a discussion, but it touches upon something very relevant to this election cycle.  Author Diana West discusses a network and pattern of ideology within the modern pentagon leadership, and how a worldview is threatened by President Trump. The interview and discussion is below.


The conversation necessarily gets in the weeds and is filled with unique insight into a very complex alignment. However, in the big picture it’s not difficult to figure out why the Pentagon would be opposed to Trump.  During the campaign and early administration President Trump’s expressed foreign policy was viewed by NATO alliance members as a threat.  The same type of perspective applies internally to the U.S. military.


President Trump’s preferred use of economic warfare makes the Pentagon’s role diminished. Instead of punching North Korea’s Kim Jong-un, President Trump hits the checkbook of Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping.  The primary has become the contingency. The value of James Mattis replaced by the effectiveness of Robert Lighthizer.  JC Milley isn’t in the planning room; Milley’s been replaced by Wilbur Ross (until he’s needed).


In the Trump era the President is telling the Pentagon where and when to position; and asks them for ‘contingency’ preparation.  Decades of Pentagon-centric foreign policy is lessened by an entirely new geopolitical approach based on economic strategy.


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Take away power, or worse yet, stop using military power, and the leaders within the system start to sense their institution becoming functionally obsolescent.  Overlay this military view upon pre-existing ideological differences and the situation gets worse.


CTH touched on this last year when we noted how the Pentagon, specifically the joint chiefs, never took any action when Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman positioned himself as an opponent to President Trump’s policy perspective.  The pentagon left Vindman on assignment to the NSC even after Vindman attempted to take-down President Trump.


Another example was Joint Chief Chairman Milley, and the visit Pompeo and Milley took to Mar-a-Lago in December, where they were informing President Trump of military strikes in Syria and Iraq *after* they took place. .


Yet another related example was Navy Secretary Richard Spencer threatening President Trump and attempting to extort him into inaction over the disciplinary plans against the SEAL commando, Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher.


All of these examples paint a picture of a Pentagon operating outside the chain-of-command and civilian oversight.


Unfortunately, like all other issues in the era of hyper-polarization, normally democrats would be alarmed about military leadership going rogue with their own agenda; however, as long as their agenda is anti-Trump, the political-left is now okay with it.


Recently democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden was openly asking the U.S. military to initiate a coup against President Trump.  The media didn’t bat an eyelash…  The traditional checks-and-balances, things that keep us stable, are seriously getting sketchy.


Ms. West takes a deeper look at the internal ideology within the Pentagon and then notes the tentacles that extend beyond the military into the Brookings Institute and Lawfare agencies.   The larger assembly of the resistance movement becomes visible. WATCH:

 

…. It’s only a “soft-coup” until the military shows up.

 

 

 

Lots of uncomfortable facts in that one.  And yes, Mack ... WATCH.   And be sure to read all the comments below the linked article because a lot them also make valid points in support of what I'm suggesting.     And I’ve plenty more articles and sources like that, Mack.  So perhaps you need to wake up to what might really be going on?

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On 9/11/2020 at 7:25 PM, XavierOnassis said:

 

All this was because one person screwed up while making one bomb,which made another two blow up.

 

I could say the same thing about Timothy McVeigh.  But, I won't, because I recognize McVeigh as a terrorist who should be punished with the full force of the law - death penalty.  This is What Ayres and his little witchy wife deserves - public executions.

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