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I give zero shits if mainesatan ignores me, in fact I welcome it.   The hilarious part is, I didn't post it for HIM, I posted it for everyone else, who WILL see it and learn (if they didn't

Scout is spewing fucking lies out of her cum trap again...

As a member of the "country" what did you do for me......I can't recollect anything at all. The only person you served was yourself, you got a job where you didn't have to think, others did that for y

11 hours ago, DemDog said:

Why would Trump disparage a Vietnam POW hero?

 

 

Because McCain was an asshole and deserved it.

 

 

11 hours ago, DemDog said:

I don’t know. Why would Trump disparage a Vietnam POW hero? Why does Trump dislike soldiers that were captured after crashing out the sky? Why would Trump disparage a Gold Star Family? Why would Trump dry hump the American Flag on stage? Why would Trump be a coward and lie about his ability to serve our country when it was his time? Why would Trump demean and insult John Kelly’s son’s sacrifice to our country? Why would Trump say he can grab women by the pussy? Why did Trump commit a treasonous act at the Helsinki Treason Summit. Why does Trump hate our Western Allies? Why does Trump love our enemies? Why does Trump always accuse others of which he is guilty of? Why are Trump supporters so anti-American? Why does EltonJohnson ask really stupid questions?

 

 

Liberalism is a mental disorder, and you prove it ? So many lies there.   

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4 hours ago, jerra- said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/14/are-you-happy-now-trump-supporters/?itid=lk_inline_manual_28

 

President Trump isn’t the first American leader to turn his back on foreign friends who were counting on U.S. assistance: President Dwight D. Eisenhower did it in Hungary in 1956; President John F. Kennedy in Cuba in 1961; and President Gerald Ford in South Vietnam in 1975. But no previous chief executive has ever sold out the United States’ allies as nonchalantly and unnecessarily as Trump has done with the Syrian Kurds.

 

At least with Eisenhower, Kennedy and Ford, there was a good reason they failed to come to the aid of freedom fighters: Doing so would have embroiled the United States in costly conflicts. Trump and his apologists would like to pretend that’s also the case today — that Trump pulled U.S. troops out of northern Syria to avoid a war with Turkey. But there is scant chance that Turkish troops would have invaded northern Syria if U.S. troops were standing in the way. That is why President Recep Tayyip Erdogan asked Trump to move the U.S. forces — and Trump, for reasons that remain mysterious, obliged. (Trump himself admitted in 2015 that “I have a little conflict of interest” because of two Trump Towers in Istanbul.)

The consequences of the American pullout are proving to be every bit as catastrophic as most observers — and Trump’s own aides — had feared. On “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said that ever since coming to office about two months ago, he had been urging the Turks not to invade Syria. “We cited all the reasons that are now playing out,” he said. “The biggest being the likely release of ISIS fighters from these camps and prisons, not just that we see a humanitarian crisis emerging.”

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If Esper cited those reasons to the Turks, he surely cited them to Trump as well. But the president wasn’t listening, as usual. Now Kurds are being slaughtered, and Islamic State detainees are escaping. With chaos all around, Trump had no choice on Sunday but to order most U.S. troops to scuttle out of Syria in a humiliating defeat. Our forces are leaving so fast they could not take with them, as planned, some 60 “high value” Islamic State detainees — i.e., some of the worst terrorists on the planet.

The Kurds, in turn, had no choice but to invite Syrian regime forces to come to their rescue, thereby handing a massive win not only to Bashar al-Assad but also to his backers in Moscow and Tehran. The one part of Syria that had been under the control of secular moderates — the Kurds are more progressive on women’s rights than anyone in the region aside from the Israelis — is now being divided between the brutal forces of Assad and Erdogan.

After the Hungarian uprising of 1956, the Bay of Pigs invasion of 1961 and the fall of South Vietnam in 1975, the presidents at the time made somber statements to explain why they did not intervene militarily and to remonstrate over the losses suffered by freedom fighters. Eisenhower, for example, said that “the United States deplores the intervention of Soviet military forces” and that “the heart of America goes out to the people of Hungary.”

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Trump did not express any such concern for the Kurds who have been fighting at America’s side against the Islamic State. Instead he took a break from golf to tweet: “Do you remember two years ago when Iraq was going to fight the Kurds in a different part of Syria. Many people wanted us to fight with the Kurds against Iraq, who we just fought for. I said no, and the Kurds left the fight, twice. Now the same thing is happening with Turkey...... The Kurds and Turkey have been fighting for many years. Turkey considers the PKK the worst terrorists of all. Others may want to come in and fight for one side or the other. Let them! We are monitoring the situation closely. Endless Wars!”

That Trump thinks that Iraqi troops fought Kurds in Syria — rather than around the Iraqi city of Kirkuk — shows how little he knows about this region. That he is inviting one and all to fight the Kurds (“Let them!”) shows how little he cares about American security, American honor or American allies. That he is now maligning his victims by claiming with no evidence that the Kurds are deliberately releasing Islamic State prisoners to force U.S. intervention shows how cruel and dishonest he is.

The Republican members of Congress who are apoplectic (“Shameful disaster unfolding in Syria,” tweeted Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming) have no one to blame but themselves. They are the ones who continue to support a president who has been unabashed in his love of dictators, his disdain for human rights and his willingness to betray anyone or anything to advance his own interests.

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Most of the time, the costs of the Trump presidency are inchoate — laws are broken, norms transgressed. But when it came to immigrant children in cages or Kurds in the line of fire, the costs are all too human and horrifying. Are you happy now, Trump supporters? Is all this worth a corporate tax cut?

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You can post all the 'opinion' pieces you want, but at the end of the day, people have to obey orders...

 

remember, REGARDLESS of everything President Trump does (good or bad), the left HATES...the leftwing's agenda of keeping the anti-Trump rhetoric at the "hair on fire" level of outrage is so blatantly obvious to us, yet you sheeple wallow in it like Piglets in mud...proven here every fucking day...

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4 hours ago, jerra- said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/14/are-you-happy-now-trump-supporters/?itid=lk_inline_manual_28

 

President Trump isn’t the first American leader to turn his back on foreign friends who were counting on U.S. assistance: President Dwight D. Eisenhower did it in Hungary in 1956; President John F. Kennedy in Cuba in 1961; and President Gerald Ford in South Vietnam in 1975. But no previous chief executive has ever sold out the United States’ allies as nonchalantly and unnecessarily as Trump has done with the Syrian Kurds.

 

At least with Eisenhower, Kennedy and Ford, there was a good reason they failed to come to the aid of freedom fighters: Doing so would have embroiled the United States in costly conflicts. Trump and his apologists would like to pretend that’s also the case today — that Trump pulled U.S. troops out of northern Syria to avoid a war with Turkey. But there is scant chance that Turkish troops would have invaded northern Syria if U.S. troops were standing in the way. That is why President Recep Tayyip Erdogan asked Trump to move the U.S. forces — and Trump, for reasons that remain mysterious, obliged. (Trump himself admitted in 2015 that “I have a little conflict of interest” because of two Trump Towers in Istanbul.)

The consequences of the American pullout are proving to be every bit as catastrophic as most observers — and Trump’s own aides — had feared. On “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said that ever since coming to office about two months ago, he had been urging the Turks not to invade Syria. “We cited all the reasons that are now playing out,” he said. “The biggest being the likely release of ISIS fighters from these camps and prisons, not just that we see a humanitarian crisis emerging.”

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If Esper cited those reasons to the Turks, he surely cited them to Trump as well. But the president wasn’t listening, as usual. Now Kurds are being slaughtered, and Islamic State detainees are escaping. With chaos all around, Trump had no choice on Sunday but to order most U.S. troops to scuttle out of Syria in a humiliating defeat. Our forces are leaving so fast they could not take with them, as planned, some 60 “high value” Islamic State detainees — i.e., some of the worst terrorists on the planet.

The Kurds, in turn, had no choice but to invite Syrian regime forces to come to their rescue, thereby handing a massive win not only to Bashar al-Assad but also to his backers in Moscow and Tehran. The one part of Syria that had been under the control of secular moderates — the Kurds are more progressive on women’s rights than anyone in the region aside from the Israelis — is now being divided between the brutal forces of Assad and Erdogan.

After the Hungarian uprising of 1956, the Bay of Pigs invasion of 1961 and the fall of South Vietnam in 1975, the presidents at the time made somber statements to explain why they did not intervene militarily and to remonstrate over the losses suffered by freedom fighters. Eisenhower, for example, said that “the United States deplores the intervention of Soviet military forces” and that “the heart of America goes out to the people of Hungary.”

AD
 
 

Trump did not express any such concern for the Kurds who have been fighting at America’s side against the Islamic State. Instead he took a break from golf to tweet: “Do you remember two years ago when Iraq was going to fight the Kurds in a different part of Syria. Many people wanted us to fight with the Kurds against Iraq, who we just fought for. I said no, and the Kurds left the fight, twice. Now the same thing is happening with Turkey...... The Kurds and Turkey have been fighting for many years. Turkey considers the PKK the worst terrorists of all. Others may want to come in and fight for one side or the other. Let them! We are monitoring the situation closely. Endless Wars!”

That Trump thinks that Iraqi troops fought Kurds in Syria — rather than around the Iraqi city of Kirkuk — shows how little he knows about this region. That he is inviting one and all to fight the Kurds (“Let them!”) shows how little he cares about American security, American honor or American allies. That he is now maligning his victims by claiming with no evidence that the Kurds are deliberately releasing Islamic State prisoners to force U.S. intervention shows how cruel and dishonest he is.

The Republican members of Congress who are apoplectic (“Shameful disaster unfolding in Syria,” tweeted Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming) have no one to blame but themselves. They are the ones who continue to support a president who has been unabashed in his love of dictators, his disdain for human rights and his willingness to betray anyone or anything to advance his own interests.

AD
 
 

Most of the time, the costs of the Trump presidency are inchoate — laws are broken, norms transgressed. But when it came to immigrant children in cages or Kurds in the line of fire, the costs are all too human and horrifying. Are you happy now, Trump supporters? Is all this worth a corporate tax cut?

Watch:

 

 

 

Uh, those pics of kids in cages were from your buddy Obama in 2014...at least try, and I mean TRY and be honest, OTAY?

 

which laws?

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4 hours ago, jerra- said:

Trump himself admitted in 2015 that “I have a little conflict of interest” because of two Trump Towers in Istanbul.)

 

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can trump's reason be even more clear why he let turkey slaughter the kurds??????

What conflict of interest? You did catch the date you posted, right?

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31 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

You can post all the 'opinion' pieces you want, but at the end of the day, people have to obey orders...

 

remember, REGARDLESS of everything President Trump does (good or bad), the left HATES...the leftwing's agenda of keeping the anti-Trump rhetoric at the "hair on fire" level of outrage is so blatantly obvious to us, yet you sheeple wallow in it like Piglets in mud...proven here every fucking day...

 

your words there's no room for 'feelings' in the military, you idiot...

 

there's a chain of command and you always do what you are told by ranking officers.

 

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did I ever say a word about not obeying orders????????????????????

 

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32 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

You can post all the 'opinion' pieces you want, but at the end of the day, people have to obey orders...

 

remember, REGARDLhESS of everything President Trump does (good or bad), the left HATES...the leftwing's agenda of keeping the anti-Trump rhetoric at the "hair on fire" level of outrage is so blatantly obvious to us, yet you sheeple wallow in it like Piglets in mud...proven here every fucking day...

 

 

these are not opinion pieces, these are articles based on truth. the only ones who opinions are based on lies on trump supporters who reject truth because they feel trump can do no wrong,

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1 hour ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

What an insane statement

 

 

he was just nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

 

 

But it also forces lawyers in the Pentagon to craft orders for the troops that could see them firing on Syrian government or Russian fighters trying to take back oil facilities that sit within the sovereign nation of Syria.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss internal deliberations.

Trump’s order also slams the door on any suggestion that the bulk of the more than 1,200 U.S. troops that have been in Syria will be coming home any time soon, as he has repeatedly promised.

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1 hour ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

What an insane statement

 

 

he was just nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

 

 

they also warn that Mr. Trump’s discourse, which revives language he often used during the 2016 campaign to widespread condemnation, could confirm the world’s worst suspicions about American motives in the region. A Russian Defense Ministry official on Saturday denounced Mr. Trump’s action as “state banditry.”

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31 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

your words there's no room for 'feelings' in the military, you idiot...

 

there's a chain of command and you always do what you are told by ranking officers.

 

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did I ever say a word about not obeying orders????????????????????

 

You implied they should have...

 

here's another caveat, the left made it sound like the USA had tens of thousands of feet on the ground protecting the Kurds who are obviously (subjectively) helpless...when the FACTS are there were 1100 stationed at outposts...nothing more than minimal support...

 

If the Syrians actually gave a shit, they would be the ones protecting their border and not using the Kurds as buffer pawns...

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2 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

they also warn that Mr. Trump’s discourse, which revives language he often used during the 2016 campaign to widespread condemnation, could confirm the world’s worst suspicions about American motives in the region. A Russian Defense Ministry official on Saturday denounced Mr. Trump’s action as “state banditry.”

 

Actually the Norweigian fellow who nominated President Trump, addressed your exact deceitful assertion here.  He felt it is unfair of the world to focus on President Trump's words and his aggressive lexicon, as reasons to discount his great global-peace work. Yes, actual work. 

 

Imagine that... putting Trump's actions and duties, above, Trump's angry words they use against their unfair and deceitful critics.

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23 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

you think a hotel will vanish over night?

Obama created those 'hotels',  locked up and deported more illegals than President Trump ever will...

 

using existing facilities is a smart move...why waste more monies we don't have?

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23 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

these are not opinion pieces, these are articles based on truth. the only ones who opinions are based on lies on trump supporters who reject truth because they feel trump can do no wrong,

Every article you posted are 'opinions'...nothing more...spurred by the left that wants endless US interventions having our noses in everyone's business succeeding in bankrupting our country...

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4 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

Obama created those 'hotels',  locked up and deported more illegals than President Trump ever will...

 

using existing facilities is a smart move...why waste more monies we don't have?

 

trump said he hotels in turkey, don't switch things around.

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1 minute ago, ROG62 said:

Every article you posted are 'opinions'...nothing more...spurred by the left that wants endless US interventions having our noses in everyone's business succeeding in bankrupting our country...

 

they are facts- the soldiers felt horrible deserting the kurds, those are facts,

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3 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

trump said he hotels in turkey, don't switch things around.

My bad...you have two conversations going...

 

again, what does his commentary in 2015 (well before he entered the Presidential race) have to do with his presidency that started on 2017?

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18 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

Actually the Norweigian fellow who nominated President Trump, addressed your exact deceitful assertion here.  He felt it is unfair of the world to focus on President Trump's words and his aggressive lexicon, as reasons to discount his great global-peace work. Yes, actual work. 

 

Imagine that... putting Trump's actions and duties, above, Trump's angry words they use against their unfair and deceitful critics.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/christian-tybring-gjedde-norways-top-anti-immigration-crank-nominates-trump-for-nobel-peace-prize?ref=home

 

Fox News got very excited Wednesday morning when announcing its exclusive that President Donald Trump had been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. What it didn’t mention was that hundreds of people are nominated every year, and that Trump’s nomination—for his role in the new Israel-United Arab Emirates agreement—came from one of Norway’s most well-known anti-immigration cranks. The nomination was submitted by Christian Tybring-Gjedde, a member of the Norwegian parliament, who also nominated Trump in 2018. Tybring-Gjedde is obsessed with immigration and is known for a string of controversial statements on the issue. He was severely criticized in 2011 when he suggested that Muslims were by nature more aggressive than Norwegians, and has also previously compared the hijab head covering for women to the robes of the Ku Klux Klan. Any members of a national assembly or national government can put someone forward for the Peace Prize, so a mere nomination is not very significant.

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7 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

they are facts- the soldiers felt horrible deserting the kurds, those are facts,

It happens all the time...and again, 1100 is an extremely small force, mainly reporting to those up the chain of command of what's going on on the ground...

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5 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

My bad...you have two conversations going...

 

again, what does his commentary in 2015 (well before he entered the Presidential race) have to do with his presidency that started on 2017?

 

Trump himself admitted in 2015 that “I have a little conflict of interest” because of two Trump Towers in Istanbul.)

 

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