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10 hours ago, maineman said:

he called me a child rapist... you said his sources were reliable.

 

To which I say YOU'RE a child rapist, but you prefer them related and at room temp.

 

just kiddin'    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

see how that works?

 

you pissed in your whiskey.... your attempt at sarcasm was inelegant and boorish so our little truce is obviously kaput.

His “unnamed” sources you fucking moron. Obviously it was a sarcastic comment poking fun at you morons who STILL believe a story anyone with half a brain has concluded was a bald faced lie. 

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I give zero shits if mainesatan ignores me, in fact I welcome it.   The hilarious part is, I didn't post it for HIM, I posted it for everyone else, who WILL see it and learn (if they didn't

Scout is spewing fucking lies out of her cum trap again...

As a member of the "country" what did you do for me......I can't recollect anything at all. The only person you served was yourself, you got a job where you didn't have to think, others did that for y

10 hours ago, Scout said:

 

I'm loving it!  A bunch of the names you keep 

coming up with were not even at the meeting.  

He was at the meeting and so was Bolton. 
 

Where’s your unnamed sources? Still don’t exist? 

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9 hours ago, Scout said:

 

Well, at least my articles are from publications that

require more than a 4th grade reading level.  :D 

Your fake hit pieces? A 4th grader would know unnamed sources mean nothing. 

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9 hours ago, Scout said:

 

Now, lets dissect this comment.

We have FOUR people agreeing they heard the same negative comments about

the military from Trump.   Unlike the WH "witnesses", they don't claim to have

heard every single word uttered by President Trump on that trip (which is totally unbelievable). 

 

We have a White House (the President and the staff) that has been caught lying many many times.  

The Atlantic has a  solid reputation for truth-telling, NOT lying. 

We have video and Twitter records that witness Trump

making disparaging comments about the military.

 

All this makes it clear.  The White House's problems are NOT with 'unnamed sources'.  The White House's problem is that they have lied so frequently

nobody believes them. 

 

I think all GOOD Americans receive great satisfaction from knowing

that Trump's lies have come back to ream his ass.  

 

No. We don’t know anything. We don’t even know if the people exist or were made up. Unnamed sources typically means made up fake news. 😆

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11 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

His “unnamed” sources you fucking moron. Obviously it was a sarcastic comment poking fun at you morons who STILL believe a story anyone with half a brain has concluded was a bald faced lie. 

you gave his unnamed sources credence.  You accused me of being a child rapist. 

 

I therefore accuse you of fucking the ambient temperature corpse of your dead loser son.

 

See what happens when you piss on a gentleman's agreement?

 

Sow the wind, asshole...reap the whirlwind.

 

YOU did this.  own it, motherfucker.  own it.

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11 minutes ago, maineman said:

you gave his unnamed sources credence.  You accused me of being a child rapist. 

 

I therefore accuse you of fucking the ambient temperature corpse of your dead loser son.

 

See what happens when you piss on a gentleman's agreement?

 

Sow the wind, asshole...reap the whirlwind.

 

YOU did this.  own it, motherfucker.  own it.

You're right. I should have known you didn't have the intellect to understand obvious sarcasm. 😂

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7 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

You're right. I should have known you didn't have the intellect to understand obvious sarcasm. 😂

Gentlemen don't act like you do.  

 

You should have known that even sarcastically accusing me of raping children was not a smart move.

 

So here is what you reap for what you have sown:

 

I am suggesting that you went to the funeral home where your "one row of I was there with everybody else medals" do nothing E-4 drug overdose victim son was lying in his coffin... and you rolled him over and fucked his ambient temperature ass....

 

but it's just sarcasm.

 

 Wipe that jism and formaldehyde off your dick, you sick motherfucker.

 

Own it motherfucker.  YOU need to back this off and sincerely apologize....YOU pissed on our gentleman's agreement.  If you want to restore it, it's ALL on you.

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18 minutes ago, maineman said:

you gave his unnamed sources credence.  You accused me of being a child rapist. 

 

I therefore accuse you of fucking the ambient temperature corpse of your dead loser son.

 

See what happens when you piss on a gentleman's agreement?

 

Sow the wind, asshole...reap the whirlwind.

 

YOU did this.  own it, motherfucker.  own it.

   but, but, but, but, ........................... he had unnamed sources.  THAT means the story is true, according to YOU!!

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   but, but, but, but, ........................... he had unnamed sources.  THAT means the story is true, according to YOU!!

Not so...but it DOESN'T mean it is automatically false.

 

Woodward and Bernstein sunk Nixon with well written and researched reporting that almost exclusively relied on anonymous sources.  ALL of those sources turned out to be accurate and reliable.

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5 minutes ago, maineman said:

Gentlemen don't act like you do.  

 

You should have known that even sarcastically accusing me of raping children was not a smart move.

 

So here is what you reap for what you have sown:

 

I am suggesting that you went to the funeral home where your "one row of I was there with everybody else medals" do nothing E-4 drug overdose victim son was lying in his coffin... and you rolled him over and fucked his ambient temperature ass....

 

but it's just sarcasm.

 

 Wipe that jism and formaldehyde off your dick, you sick motherfucker.

 

Own it motherfucker.  YOU need to back this off and sincerely apologize....YOU pissed on our gentleman's agreement.  If you want to restore it, it's ALL on you.

This looks like a complete meltdown. 😆

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10 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

You're right. I should have known you didn't have the intellect to understand obvious sarcasm. 😂

  Well, hell, is THAT any different from believing any story that "unnamed sources" say about President Trump?????

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Just now, Str8tEdge said:

This looks like a complete meltdown. 😆

Not a meltdown at all.  Just calling a spade a spade.

 

YOU fucked the corpse of your do nothing, loser drug abuser son while he was in his coffin.

 

That's disgusting....

 

sarcastically speaking, of course.

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1 minute ago, maineman said:

Not so...but it DOESN'T mean it is automatically false.

  It doesn't mean that it is true, like you liberal/communists have been bellyaching about our President for so long.

  Either it is true for everyone, or it is made-up bullshit for everyone.

Woodward and Bernstein sunk Nixon with well written and researched reporting that almost exclusively relied on anonymous sources.  ALL of those sources turned out to be accurate and reliable.

 

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3 minutes ago, maineman said:

Not a meltdown at all.  Just calling a spade a spade.

 

YOU fucked the corpse of your do nothing, loser drug abuser son while he was in his coffin.

 

That's disgusting....

 

sarcastically speaking, of course.

  Gee, I had unnamed sources say that you sniff boys bicycle-seats........................................          

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1 minute ago, bgr39 said:

  Gee, I had unnamed sources say that you sniff boys bicycle-seats........................................          

cool story, bro.

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2 minutes ago, maineman said:

brilliant rejoinder.  Terse...punchy.... almost ethereal... almost like a disappearing mist.

    ??? Disappearing mist????

  Just like Useless-Joe Biden and fuck-face Harris AFTER they lose the electoral college by a HUGE landslide ???                

  POOF, they will be gone like the morning mist after sunrise.

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5 minutes ago, bgr39 said:

    ??? Disappearing mist????

  Just like Useless-Joe Biden and fuck-face Harris AFTER they lose the electoral college by a HUGE landslide ???                

  POOF, they will be gone like the morning mist after sunrise.

If you'll note... your failure to be able to master the simple quote function on this site is present for all to see.

 

Again... guys at Princeton who have forgotten more about statistical analysis than you have ever known in your entire life say that, even IF the clown OUT performs the polls by 3% - which is how much he out performed the polls in 2016 when no Americans really knew who he was - he STILL loses the Electoral College  319 - 188.

 

https://www.270towin.com/content/princeton-election-consortium-2020-electoral-maps

 

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10 hours ago, jerra- said:

 

 

 

 trump pulling the troops out- (he did not bring them home, he sent them to protect oil wells-) shows he has no respect for their feelings, they felt bad to desert the kurds who protected them from isis for years

There's no room for 'feelings' in the military, you idiot...

 

there's a chain of command and you always do what you are told by ranking officers...

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4 hours ago, maineman said:

Again... guys at Princeton who have forgotten more about statistical analysis than you have ever known in your entire life say that, even IF the clown OUT performs the polls by 3% - which is how much he out performed the polls in 2016 when no Americans really knew who he was - he STILL loses the Electoral College  319 - 188.

 

LOL!   Then you MUST be going to host a Big Biden Bash following his certain victory ... right COWARD?

 

Here, just for you, snowflake ...

 

... something that Bill, Hillary and Obama would NEVER have done in a MILLION years ...

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, ROG62 said:

There's no room for 'feelings' in the military, you idiot...

 

there's a chain of command and you always do what you are told by ranking officers...

 

 

shocking to you, but the US army is not made up of androids.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-soldier-wears-ypj-patch-during-syria-withdrawal-2019-10

 

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  • A US solider wore the insignia of a Kurdish women's unit on his sleeve as US forces withdrew from northeastern Syria over the weekend.
  • The gesture reflected the anger many military personnel and veterans feel over the US decision to withdraw and leave the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces to face a Turkish incursion.
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A number of military veterans and leaders have decried the withdrawal, saying it is a betrayal of the SDF, which lost thousands of fighters during the years-long battle to defeat ISIS in Syria.

One veteran of the fight against ISIS called the US withdrawal from Kurdish-controlled northeastern Syria "a total slap in the face." Wes Bryant, a retired airman and coauthor of "Hunting the Caliphate: America's War on ISIS," previously told Insider that the decision was "a betrayal, at least of people with whom we were fighting a common enemy," and "a strategic blunder."

 

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2 hours ago, ROG62 said:

There's no room for 'feelings' in the military, you idiot...

 

there's a chain of command and you always do what you are told by ranking officers...

 

 

At a gathering last Saturday night of military and intelligence veterans, one topic shrouded the room: President Trump’s decision to abandon Kurdish fighters in Syria who had fought and died to help America destroy the Islamic State.

 

“It’s a dagger to the heart to walk away from people who shed blood for us,” one former top CIA official who attended the black-tie dinner told me later. A retired four-star general who was there said the same thing: Trump’s retreat was an “unsound, morally indefensible act” and a “disgrace” to America and the soldiers who serve this country.

This sense of anguish was pervasive among those attending the event, several attendees said. It was an annual dinner honoring the Office of Strategic Services, the secret World War II commando group that was a forerunner of today’s CIA and Special Operations forces. The event celebrated the military alliances that have always been at the center of American power. It was a bitter anniversary this year.

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It’s probably impossible for Americans to fully grasp the sense of betrayal felt by the Syrian Kurds, who suffered 11,000 dead and 24,000 wounded in a war that we asked them to fight. But perhaps we can understand the shame and outrage of the Special Operations forces who fought alongside them and now see the Kurds cast aside to face their Turkish enemies alone.

“It will go down in infamy,” said one Army officer who served in the Syria campaign. “This will go down as a stain on the American reputation for decades.” Those may sound like extreme sentiments, but they’re widely shared by those who served in the Syria mission. For these soldiers, abandoning an ally on the battlefield is about the worst thing that can happen.

To explain what the war looked like to the Americans who served in Syria, I’ve gone back through my notes from four trips there with the U.S. military. I never encountered a soldier who doubted that the war made sense.

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On my first trip in May 2016, I spent several hours talking with a tall, thick-bearded American officer, both arms decorated with sleeves of tattoos; he looked like a video-game action hero. He scoffed at Turkish claims that the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) led by a Kurdish militia called the YPG, was a terrorist cult. “They stand their ground,” he said. That seemed the highest compliment he could give.

The war moved quickly, as the SDF went house to house, clearing jihadis, and the United States rained bombs from the sky. In July 2017, rumbling down a dirt road near Tabqa that, in theory, had recently been de-mined, a sergeant major from Oklahoma is playing country music super-loud on the radio. He talks about home, but it’s obvious, listening to him, that there’s nowhere he and most of his colleagues would rather be than right here.

We sit for a meal on the floor with the Kurdish commanders who have just seized Tabqa in a costly assault. They tell us it’s their duty, and they keep pushing more food at us. In the concrete tower where the Islamic State had hurled gay prisoners to their death, all that’s left are trash heaps and jihadist slogans painted on the walls.

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By February 2018, the Islamic State capital of Raqqa is just a pile of rubble. As we drive through the caverns of shattered concrete, children start waving to the soldiers, the way civilians do after any war, probably because they’re so glad it’s over. I meet an American doctor who’s the only trauma surgeon in the area, who spends all day, every day, treating severely wounded Syrians. She says it’s an “honor” to be in Syria.

And now, as we near the end of the story, it’s last July, and I’m in Kobane meeting with Gen. Mazloum Abdi, the Syrian Kurdish commander. Trump has announced in December that he wants to withdraw all American troops. Mazloum is too polite and loyal to criticize the American president. “We respect any decision made by the U.S., whether they want to stay or leave,” he says in a calm, flat, battle-hardened voice.

American officers tell me later that Mazloum has been criticized for being too trusting of the United States, but Mazloum keeps insisting that he has confidence in his allies. I ask one of the U.S. officers what it was like to tell Mazloum in December that the United States would be leaving. The answer isn’t printable.

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President Trump isn’t the first American leader to turn his back on foreign friends who were counting on U.S. assistance: President Dwight D. Eisenhower did it in Hungary in 1956; President John F. Kennedy in Cuba in 1961; and President Gerald Ford in South Vietnam in 1975. But no previous chief executive has ever sold out the United States’ allies as nonchalantly and unnecessarily as Trump has done with the Syrian Kurds.

 

At least with Eisenhower, Kennedy and Ford, there was a good reason they failed to come to the aid of freedom fighters: Doing so would have embroiled the United States in costly conflicts. Trump and his apologists would like to pretend that’s also the case today — that Trump pulled U.S. troops out of northern Syria to avoid a war with Turkey. But there is scant chance that Turkish troops would have invaded northern Syria if U.S. troops were standing in the way. That is why President Recep Tayyip Erdogan asked Trump to move the U.S. forces — and Trump, for reasons that remain mysterious, obliged. (Trump himself admitted in 2015 that “I have a little conflict of interest” because of two Trump Towers in Istanbul.)

The consequences of the American pullout are proving to be every bit as catastrophic as most observers — and Trump’s own aides — had feared. On “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said that ever since coming to office about two months ago, he had been urging the Turks not to invade Syria. “We cited all the reasons that are now playing out,” he said. “The biggest being the likely release of ISIS fighters from these camps and prisons, not just that we see a humanitarian crisis emerging.”

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If Esper cited those reasons to the Turks, he surely cited them to Trump as well. But the president wasn’t listening, as usual. Now Kurds are being slaughtered, and Islamic State detainees are escaping. With chaos all around, Trump had no choice on Sunday but to order most U.S. troops to scuttle out of Syria in a humiliating defeat. Our forces are leaving so fast they could not take with them, as planned, some 60 “high value” Islamic State detainees — i.e., some of the worst terrorists on the planet.

The Kurds, in turn, had no choice but to invite Syrian regime forces to come to their rescue, thereby handing a massive win not only to Bashar al-Assad but also to his backers in Moscow and Tehran. The one part of Syria that had been under the control of secular moderates — the Kurds are more progressive on women’s rights than anyone in the region aside from the Israelis — is now being divided between the brutal forces of Assad and Erdogan.

After the Hungarian uprising of 1956, the Bay of Pigs invasion of 1961 and the fall of South Vietnam in 1975, the presidents at the time made somber statements to explain why they did not intervene militarily and to remonstrate over the losses suffered by freedom fighters. Eisenhower, for example, said that “the United States deplores the intervention of Soviet military forces” and that “the heart of America goes out to the people of Hungary.”

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Trump did not express any such concern for the Kurds who have been fighting at America’s side against the Islamic State. Instead he took a break from golf to tweet: “Do you remember two years ago when Iraq was going to fight the Kurds in a different part of Syria. Many people wanted us to fight with the Kurds against Iraq, who we just fought for. I said no, and the Kurds left the fight, twice. Now the same thing is happening with Turkey...... The Kurds and Turkey have been fighting for many years. Turkey considers the PKK the worst terrorists of all. Others may want to come in and fight for one side or the other. Let them! We are monitoring the situation closely. Endless Wars!”

That Trump thinks that Iraqi troops fought Kurds in Syria — rather than around the Iraqi city of Kirkuk — shows how little he knows about this region. That he is inviting one and all to fight the Kurds (“Let them!”) shows how little he cares about American security, American honor or American allies. That he is now maligning his victims by claiming with no evidence that the Kurds are deliberately releasing Islamic State prisoners to force U.S. intervention shows how cruel and dishonest he is.

The Republican members of Congress who are apoplectic (“Shameful disaster unfolding in Syria,” tweeted Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming) have no one to blame but themselves. They are the ones who continue to support a president who has been unabashed in his love of dictators, his disdain for human rights and his willingness to betray anyone or anything to advance his own interests.

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