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2 hours ago, whiteboy said:

Democracy:

 

government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

 

Psssst. MORON.

 

WE are not a DEMOCRACY. Never have been. NEVER WILL BE!!!

So your ENTIRE premise is a complete and total waste of your time and effort.

 

A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLICAN CONFEDERATION is the PROPER AND LEGAL TERM for this nation.

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3 minutes ago, MidnightMax said:

 

Psssst. MORON.

 

WE are not a DEMOCRACY. Never have been. NEVER WILL BE!!!

So your ENTIRE premise is a complete and total waste of your time and effort.

 

A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLICAN CONFEDERATION is the PROPER AND LEGAL TERM for this nation.

 

Oh damn I stand corrected.

 

Wonder why we worry about communists countries then, and try to force other to be a more "democratic" society when we aren't ourselves?

 

Guess we as a nation should not really care, hell lets be a dictatorship, that would be better ... since we aren't a democracy and people cant think for themselves anyway, lets just get a really smart guy and let him run everything.

 

 

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36 minutes ago, whiteboy said:

 

Not one should ever blindly agree to anything ... oh wait, that's what being a part of a political party makes you do.

 

Thanks for making my point for me ...

That fucking rediculous.

 

Like what? I vote for candidates that reflect my stances on social and economic issues.

 

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2 minutes ago, whiteboy said:

 

Oh damn I stand corrected.

 

Wonder why we worry about communists countries then, and try to force other to be a more "democratic" society when we aren't ourselves?

More Democratic.

 

Like saying "You can't gas your citizens"? 

 

Do you feel like that's to much?

 

 

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Guess we as a nation should not really care, hell lets be a dictatorship, that would be better ... since we aren't a democracy and people cant think for themselves anyway, lets just get a really smart guy and let him run everything.

 

 

That seems to be what you are advocating. Essentially populism would win out.

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2 minutes ago, kfools said:

More Democratic.

 

Like saying "You can't gas your citizens"? 

 

Do you feel like that's to much?

 

 

That seems to be what you are advocating. Essentially populism would win out.

 

First that last statement was tongue in cheek not advocating a dictatorship just making a point.

 

Secondly, right now I would gas the hell out of these "peaceful protesters". Nah, I retract that, I would put snipers on roofs and anytime anyone looted or threw anything that could be considered incendiary pop their head like a grape. Bet the protest would end then huh? Probably almost immediately ...

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8 minutes ago, kfools said:

Like what? I vote for candidates that reflect my stances on social and economic issues.

 

 

By voting party lines across the board right?

 

You just assume they stand for what you stand for because you are supposed to support your party.

 

You don't really know shit about any of them.

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28 minutes ago, whiteboy said:

 

More ignorance.

 

We have a way to treat the flu.

 

Yes you are more likely to die if you are older and in poor health, common sense with anything that may effect people.

 

In my city we had a guy in his late 20s just get out of the hospital the other day, after being in intensive care for almost two months with Covid.

 

We also have children under 12 that have died ... from Covid.

 

Your blanket statement about age is just you following what the others want you to believe. Or maybe you are just stupid. Either way it is wrong.

 

If you live in Texas, Florida, California ... cases haven't dropped and less people aren't in the hospital. Our hospitals are packed.

We have ways of treating covid19. For most who develop symptoms a little nyquil and bed rest is all that is needed. 40-80% never develop symptoms. 

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1 minute ago, NeoConvict said:

We have ways of treating covid19. For most who develop symptoms a little nyquil and bed rest is all that is needed. 40-80% never develop symptoms. 

 

LMFAO

 

Nyquil?

 

Wow, you really are lost.

 

Feel sorry for you.

 

As ar as the 40% to 80% where did you come up with that? Since we haven't even been able to effectively test enough people yet for the virus.

 

Love to hear all these absolute statements regarding something we as a society are still in the dark about.

 

Keep following bud ... baaaa .... baaaaa.

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1 minute ago, whiteboy said:

 

LMFAO

 

Nyquil?

 

Wow, you really are lost.

 

Feel sorry for you.

 

As ar as the 40% to 80% where did you come up with that? Since we haven't even been able to effectively test enough people yet for the virus.

 

Love to hear all these absolute statements regarding something we as a society are still in the dark about.

 

Keep following bud ... baaaa .... baaaaa.

Plenty of other threads debating the Rona. Play in one of those. 

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3 minutes ago, NeoConvict said:

Plenty of other threads debating the Rona. Play in one of those. 

 

I didn't start the debate about the virus.

 

Just responding to moronic comments.

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1 hour ago, whiteboy said:

 

First that last statement was tongue in cheek not advocating a dictatorship just making a point.

 

Secondly, right now I would gas the hell out of these "peaceful protesters". Nah, I retract that, I would put snipers on roofs and anytime anyone looted or threw anything that could be considered incendiary pop their head like a grape. Bet the protest would end then huh? Probably almost immediately ...

They aren't protestors. They are violent communist infiltrators. So that's warranted.

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1 hour ago, whiteboy said:

 

By voting party lines across the board right?

Sometimes. Almost never in local elections. Nationally I do often. 

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You just assume they stand for what you stand for because you are supposed to support your party.

Look man anybody can run as a republican or Democrat without party support. Happens all the time.

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You don't really know shit about any of them.

I don't really know shit about you either. The people running to rep me don't me either regardless of party affiliation or not.

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8 minutes ago, kfools said:

Sometimes. Almost never in local elections. Nationally I do often. 

Look man anybody can run as a republican or Democrat without party support. Happens all the time.

I don't really know shit about you either. The people running to rep me don't me either regardless of party affiliation or not.

 

If political parties didn't exist, would you not research a candidate before voting?

 

That is my point.

 

We should know what we are voting for.

 

As the system is now, the majority of people do not.

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2 hours ago, whiteboy said:

Didn't expect anyone to agree.

 

You are the sheep I am talking about.

 

Cliff is just over there, going to be a long first step ...

The mistake you make is that you aren't taking into account that all the important votes in congress are split down party lines. I am against the democrats in ALL those important votes. I therefor can't vote for a democrat even if I hate the republican.

 

I don't need to do any research to know that the important votes will split on part lines.

 

It makes voting easy. I just vote against the progressives and democrats.

 

There might be some weakness in there someplace but it isn't my weakness. 

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4 hours ago, whiteboy said:

If you vote Democrat, you are weak.

 

If you vote Republican, you are weak.

 

If you research each candidate and vote on the merit of the individual, you are what this country will require to ever be a true democracy.

 

Democracy:

 

government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

 

Is that what we have in the US? If you answered yes ... really?

 

Do the people have the power, or do the parties have the power?

 

No one votes for a candidate anymore, they vote for a party.

 

Vote straight tickets, and actually feel like they have done something. They have. Taken the easy way out.

 

When is the last time you simply did not vote because there was not a option that you felt was good enough to vote for?

 

Should you not be able to exercise that right? Are we supposed to just get these ignorant people shoved at us and happily accept?

 

It is what we do. It is the reason we are struggling as a country now.

 

Party politics, more than anything else I can think of, has brought the US to the precipice of ruin.

 

If you don't think we are close, wake up.

 

The dollar is worthless.

 

The country is on the verge of a civil war.

 

There is a virus we cant confirm where it came from and have no idea how to treat, that is threatening to destroy life as we know it.

 

What if the cases and deaths we are seeing now, doubles, triples, quadruples in the coming months? What if by the time there is a vaccine, it doesn't matter anymore?

 

All because we have a congress fighting over how to spend money the country doesn't really even have?

 

What is at the root of the delays, the arguing, the posturing, and the ignorant obsession with having their own way and making sure the other guy doesn't get what he wants?

 

Not the good of the people ... the power of the party.

 

As long as we have party politics, we will stay weak.

 

 

 

 

GOOD THREAD! Once again we are faced with voting for two old men we really shouldn't want!

The two parties are two sides to the same coin!

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