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1 minute ago, Old Mack said:

 

Why don't you run for President...I'm sure you would do better than Sleepy Joe.

 

 

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I'm not crazy, nor do I have the money. But neither does my dog, and I would vote for my dog over Trump. She's honest and loyal.

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15 minutes ago, TheOldBarn said:

So you're talking about the Bernie Crowd then. I'm an old guy, there was a cult following to Bernie, this is very true. It was irrational and very much misguided, that much I whole I completely agree with. It was more than moronic. Hell, if you believe in certain policy matters, what about the congress, what about not throwing out the baby with the bath water?

Seriously, there is progressive, even progressive radical theory, but what the hell is the use if nothing will ever ever get done?

 

 

Have you ever once said as much to Bludog or Trollingrock? Ever? Once?

 

I'd have much greater respect for you if you had. But I witnessed it. Not ever.

 

I'm deeply unhappy Donald J Trump is the president. It could not have happened without BS cultists like those two.

 

Bill

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1 minute ago, SpyCar said:

 

Have you ever once said as much to Bludog or Trollingrock? Ever? Once?

 

I'd have much greater respect for you if you had. But I witnessed it. Not ever.

 

I'm deeply unhappy Donald J Trump is the president. It could not have happened without BS cultists like those two.

 

Bill

why yes I have. In fact, if I recall correctly both Bludog and Rolling Rock have too.

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OldBarn are you going to Step into the Cyber Arena...this place could use some new ultraliberal blood.

 

If so...let me throw you a hardball right away !

 

Why do you think President Obama got the nomination ?  The reason I believe (with very little political experience); he got the nomination was because he was a Negro . He moved to Chicago for the same reason shillary moved to NY and that is because it is a ultraliberal stronghold that will accept outlanders as long as they support the agenda 100%.

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SpyCar,

 

I don't know why you hold a vendetta against Bludog or Rolling Rock, but they both have ridiculed the Bernie Cult in several posts. Yeah, the like Bernie's policy measures, I like some of them as well. But no way do I respect anyone who fails to vote, and neither do either of them.

You are tremendously misguided if you think that much!

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4 minutes ago, TheOldBarn said:

why yes I have. In fact, if I recall correctly both Bludog and Rolling Rock have too.

 

Your memory is faulty.

 

TrollingRock has made non-stop excuses for his boycott of the election and his part in helping to elect Donald Trump.

 

He's also lied--straight up--about the cult targeting John Lewis for their booing.

 

We can move forward without truth. Those two are liars and extremists who put their socialist ideology above all else, while pretending to be "liberals" while squelching liberal political expression (and all dissent for their party line).

 

They got us Trump.

 

Bill

 

 

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4 minutes ago, TheOldBarn said:

SpyCar,

 

I don't know why you hold a vendetta against Bludog or Rolling Rock, but they both have ridiculed the Bernie Cult in several posts. Yeah, the like Bernie's policy measures, I like some of them as well. But no way do I respect anyone who fails to vote, and neither do either of them.

You are tremendously misguided if you think that much!

 

You are dead wrong. Go ask TrollingRock--who sat out. He'd do it again given the chance. He said so dozens of times. He'd let Trump win.

 

That's the reality.

 

Bill

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1 minute ago, Old Mack said:

OldBarn are you going to Step into the Cyber Arena...this place could use some new ultraliberal blood.

 

If so...let me throw you a hardball right away !

 

Why do you think President Obama got the nomination ?  The reason I believe (with very little political experience); he got the nomination was because he was a Negro . He moved to Chicago for the same reason shillary moved to NY and that is because it is a ultraliberal stronghold that will accept outlanders as long as they support the agenda 100%.

I did not vote for Obama because he was black, if that is what you are asking Mack.

The Black Vote is pragmatic, they truly don't vote due to the color of ones skin. Yes, there are conservative Black Americans, not many but they do exist.

By pragmatic, I'm saying they vote as a block for well thought out rational reasons. Obama is highly intelligent, trustworthy, a skilled speaker, and yes,

he tried to reach out to all sides. The Right on the other hand is dishonest, and they've shown it for several decades.

Mack you are wrong about why Obama was elected two times. It was sad that Mitch McConnell and the Right-wing Congress took control in 2010. 

That probably happened because of white Nationalistic racism, AND YES, the fallout from the great recession that never should have happened.

If you don't believe me, well then, Swampy Trump must be your guy!

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4 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

Your memory is faulty.

 

TrollingRock has made non-stop excuses for his boycott of the election and his part in helping to elect Donald Trump.

 

He's also lied--straight up--about the cult targeting John Lewis for their booing.

 

We can move forward without truth. Those two are liars and extremists who put their socialist ideology above all else, while pretending to be "liberals" while squelching liberal political expression (and all dissent for their party line).

 

They got us Trump.

 

Bill

 

 

Bill, I have no idea what you are talking about. If Rolling Rock did this, I think that was wrong and shame on him. 

 

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1 hour ago, TheOldBarn said:

Trump is a moron. He is incompetent, and what's more he has created hardship. 

He says he created a great economy, how? 

He inherited a prosperous economy and they did very incredibly dumb things, like 

tax cuts for rich people - did they need that? Did they create more American jobs

with those cuts? 

Trump is a racists. He promised to bring American Jobs back. He even mentioned

in a true way that the problem with China was their currency. And then, he did nothing

but institute Tariff barriers that hurt consumers, farmers, etc... because he did

it in such a stupid incompetent way. 

Even before Covid-19 and his incredible failure to lead the country, the majority of people

counted the days until they could vote him out. 

Trump fights this narrative, he fights journalism, the constitution, the truth, with 

ignorance. The republican party did nothing.

Trump and the republican party became one. 

So I hope you are happy, because Swampy Trumps days are dwindling down.

He's all but done. And what's more, good luck to those who support his dumbness.

Far better days are coming soon!

Peace!

 

All I heard was crying and sobbing. 

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So SpyCar, 

you are not happy with Rolling Rock,

And you are not happy with Swampy Trump.

Which is worse?

Are you saying they are the same. Both are bad, 

or one is better? 

What the heck you saying here ?

 

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1 minute ago, Str8tEdge said:

All I heard was crying and sobbing. 

Is that all you hear?

Is there anything in between those ears of yours?

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Just now, TheOldBarn said:

Is that all you hear?

Is there anything in between those ears of yours?

Yes. Nothing that pays attention to empty senseless rhetoric because you hate Trump. 
 

But let’s be fair. Jesus Christ could have an R in front of his name and you’d treat him the same. 

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4 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

Yes. Nothing that pays attention to empty senseless rhetoric because you hate Trump. 
 

But let’s be fair. Jesus Christ could have an R in front of his name and you’d treat him the same. 

Who is this oldbarn......sounds like one of those 7 year locust plagues.

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1 minute ago, RebelGator said:

Who is this oldbarn......sounds like one of those 7 year locust plagues.

Jesus whose skin color was brown was not about politics, he was more the plebian type, 

in purest of soul. 

Trump is a snake, an incompetent racists arse, he lies, even when everybody knows his facts 

are lies. He says he's a genus, reminds his followers that he's got a big brain. 

Putin smiles, and why wouldn't he.

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6 minutes ago, TheOldBarn said:

So SpyCar, 

you are not happy with Rolling Rock,

And you are not happy with Swampy Trump.

Which is worse?

Are you saying they are the same. Both are bad, 

or one is better? 

What the heck you saying here ?

 

 

We have one because of the other.

 

This calamity not have happened without people like TrollingRock. He knew what could happen and did not care. He still doesn't care. Ask him.

 

Yet he and his pal pretend to be "liberals" while squashing any dissent. 

 

The populist far-right and the populist far-left are both toxic. Neither are remotely "liberal" ideologies and both are a threat to liberalism and democracy. Time to speak the truth.

 

Bill

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That is bull SpyCar!

What about all the people who earnestly voted for Trump, don't blame them for their ignorance do you.

What a spiteful callousness is that!

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6 minutes ago, TheOldBarn said:

That is bull SpyCar!

What about all the people who earnestly voted for Trump, don't blame them for their ignorance do you.

What a spiteful callousness is that!

 

Fake "liberals" helped Trump win and helped silence my political expression and I'm callous for holding these people responsible for their actions? LOL.

 

I think not. As I said from the top, you have been cowardly in your silence. Damn shame.

 

Bill

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Just now, SpyCar said:

 

Fake "liberals" helped Trump win helped silence my political expression and I'm callous for holding these people responsible for their actions? LOL.

 

I think not. As I said from the top, you have been cowardly in your silence. Damn shame.

 

Bill

what is a fake liberal? 

Are you a fake liberal, a progressive liberal?

why don't you focus more upon yourself?

 

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I mean, Spycar,

You were just talking about John Lewis,

and then you go on this diatribe about fake liberals.

What is your point dear sir!

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1 minute ago, TheOldBarn said:

what is a fake liberal? 

Are you a fake liberal, a progressive liberal?

why don't you focus more upon yourself?

 

 

I vote. Always. I vote Democratic. Always.

 

That's not what the BS cultists did.

 

I do just fine.

 

Bill

 

 

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Just now, TheOldBarn said:

I mean, Spycar,

You were just talking about John Lewis,

and then you go on this diatribe about fake liberals.

What is your point dear sir!

 

The BS cultists booed John Lewis. They are the same people who subverted the 2016 election and who got Trump elected. 

 

When I see you go "over there" and call out RollingRock for his Trump-enabling behaviors, I'll have a different level of respect for you. As it is, your silence rings as cowardice in these ears.

 

Bill

 

 

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36 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

The BS cultists booed John Lewis. They are the same people who subverted the 2016 election and who got Trump elected. 

 

When I see you go "over there" and call out RollingRock for his Trump-enabling behaviors, I'll have a different level of respect for you. As it is, your silence rings as cowardice in these ears.

 

Bill

 

 

Bill, you got a problem with what I don't know.

Why don't you go over there and state your point clearly. 

You say you think it was absurd to not vote because Bernie was not 

the candidate in 2016. I agree with that completely.

Next time I post something over there I'll bring it up, 

but to me, this is not worth getting upset about.

 

Hey, I'm an older cat, I've been around, seen it all.

The way a large index of voters vote or fail to vote

is very sadly irrational. 

 

I have always voted and I remember all my presidential 

picks starting with Carter - yes, I voted for him over

Gerald Ford, but I did in fact hold Ford in high respect

back then. And still do.

 

Peace!

 

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1 hour ago, RebelGator said:

Who is this oldbarn......sounds like one of those 7 year locust plagues.

Some old crack pot. 😁

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10 minutes ago, TheOldBarn said:

Bill, you got a problem with what I don't know.

Why don't you go over there and state your point clearly. 

You say you think it was absurd to not vote because Bernie was not 

the candidate in 2016. I agree with that completely.

Next time I post something over there I'll bring it up, 

but to me, this is not worth getting upset about.

 

Hey, I'm an older cat, I've been around, seen it all.

The way a large index of voters vote or fail to vote

is very sadly irrational. 

 

I have always voted and I remember all my presidential 

picks starting with Carter - yes, I voted for him over

Gerald Ford, but I did in fact hold Ford in high respect

back then. And still do.

 

Peace!

 

 

I did. Bludog banned me for criticising those who booed John Lewis. He is an authoritarian cultist who pretends to be a liberal as a means of drawing people into his populist-socialist cult.

 

I'm upset about those who attacked the Democrats in 2016 (and beyond) while pretending to be liberals and progressives. People like TrollingRock, who did not vote and is proud of that fact.

 

Carter was my first presidential vote. I was 18. But I worked as a volunteer for McGovern in 72 (at 14) and Bobby Kennedy (when I was 10).

 

Life long voter and lifelong liberal Democrat. Banned by Bludog because I won't kneel before Bernie Sanders. These are dangerous authoritarians.

 

Bill

 

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