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7 hours ago, SpyCar said:

 

Here is an entire book on the matter, dope.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Towers-Deutsche-Donald-Destruction/dp/0062878816

 

A Google search will provide countless articles on Trump, Deutsche Bank, and this insane bank's relationship with the Russian mob including their money laundering operations. 60 Minutes also ran a great investigative piece on Deutsche Banks money laundering for the Russian mob.

 

The only bank in the world that would lend Donald Trump money--even knowing they would not be repaid--was Deutsche Bank.

 

Don't be so lazy. It isn't my job to educate your sorry ignorant self.

 

Escape from your Bircher treehouse.

 

Bill

 

 

  David Enrich works for the NYT????  Hell, you might as well talk to the Chinese communist government, you would get the same made-up bullshit.

  The federal government , In 3 1/2 years, could NOT find any proof that Trump has had ANY illegal dealings with the Russian government OR Putin ...................  THAT was "H"s job (undermine the USA by working with Russia).

  David Enrich is not exactly "documented proof" of ANYTHING! (BARF)

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maineman was career navy,    Annapolis   too...   yet he still hates  America   make sure you thank him for his  service and for  leaving the service

Fix Navy?   Hows' fixing Seattle and the Summer of Love going?

Your idea of patriotism is kissing Trump's ass

1 hour ago, Duck615 said:

All over this forum

give us an example.

 

You can't because I do not lie.

 

And I notice you have run away like a girlieman from the Obama income article I jammed up your well traveled ass.  I can't say I was surprised by your cowardice.

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4 hours ago, maineman said:

give us an example.

 

You can't because I do not lie.

 

And I notice you have run away like a girlieman from the Obama income article I jammed up your well traveled ass.  I can't say I was surprised by your cowardice.

We all know he was just a token nigger

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Deutsche Bank has opened an internal investigation into the longtime personal banker of President Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, over a 2013 real estate transaction between the banker and a company part-owned by Mr. Kushner.

In June 2013, the banker, Rosemary Vrablic, and two of her Deutsche Bank colleagues purchased a Park Avenue apartment for about $1.5 million from a company called Bergel 715 Associates, according to New York property records.

Mr. Kushner, a senior adviser to the president, disclosed in an annual personal financial report late Friday that he and his wife, Ivanka Trump, had received $1 million to $5 million last year from Bergel 715. A person familiar with Mr. Kushner’s finances, who wasn’t authorized to speak publicly, said he held an ownership stake in the entity at the time of the transaction with Ms. Vrablic.

When Ms. Vrablic and her colleagues bought the apartment on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Mr. Trump and Mr. Kushner were her clients at Deutsche Bank. They had received roughly $190 million in loans from the bank and would seek hundreds of millions of dollars more.Typically banks restrict employees from doing personal business with clients because of the potential for conflicts between the employees’ interests and those of the bank.

Deutsche Bank said it had not been aware that Ms. Vrablic and her colleagues had done business with a company part-owned by Mr. Kushner until being contacted by The New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/business/kushner-deutsche-trump-rosemary-vrablic.html

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32 minutes ago, Duck615 said:

We all know he was just a token nigger

you said he was "meger" [sic] before he took office.  I shoved the proof that that was a lie right back up your well traveled ass.  You must have enjoyed that.

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Just now, maineman said:

you said he was "meger" [sic] before he took office.  I shoved the proof that that was a lie right back up your well traveled ass.  You must have enjoyed that.

your skank is taking it up the ass now you say?

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10 minutes ago, Duck615 said:

are you giving it to her up her ass? you sick fuck

who are you talking about?  I am suggesting that YOU like it up the poop shoot.  You let me shove your foolish  errors back up there all the time.

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1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

Deutsche Bank has opened an internal investigation into the longtime personal banker of President Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, over a 2013 real estate transaction between the banker and a company part-owned by Mr. Kushner.

In June 2013, the banker, Rosemary Vrablic, and two of her Deutsche Bank colleagues purchased a Park Avenue apartment for about $1.5 million from a company called Bergel 715 Associates, according to New York property records.

Mr. Kushner, a senior adviser to the president, disclosed in an annual personal financial report late Friday that he and his wife, Ivanka Trump, had received $1 million to $5 million last year from Bergel 715. A person familiar with Mr. Kushner’s finances, who wasn’t authorized to speak publicly, said he held an ownership stake in the entity at the time of the transaction with Ms. Vrablic.

When Ms. Vrablic and her colleagues bought the apartment on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Mr. Trump and Mr. Kushner were her clients at Deutsche Bank. They had received roughly $190 million in loans from the bank and would seek hundreds of millions of dollars more.Typically banks restrict employees from doing personal business with clients because of the potential for conflicts between the employees’ interests and those of the bank.

Deutsche Bank said it had not been aware that Ms. Vrablic and her colleagues had done business with a company part-owned by Mr. Kushner until being contacted by The New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/business/kushner-deutsche-trump-rosemary-vrablic.html

  Why is it that liberals/communists can only quote "un-named sources", or  someone "who wasn't authorized to speak publicly"?

  IF you cannot give the person's name that is "telling stories" (Quoting or lying their asses off) , making up shit, in other words.  Then STFU.

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1 hour ago, maineman said:

who are you talking about?  I am suggesting that YOU like it up the poop shoot.  You let me shove your foolish  errors back up there all the time.

  What are you talking about, liberals/communists ALWAYS have their heads up their asses.(WHAT ELSE IS NEW!)

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26 minutes ago, bgr39 said:

  What are you talking about, liberals/communists ALWAYS have their heads up their asses.(WHAT ELSE IS NEW!)

are you really gonna throw your lot in with ducky?

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58 minutes ago, bgr39 said:

  Why is it that liberals/communists can only quote "un-named sources", or  someone "who wasn't authorized to speak publicly"?

  IF you cannot give the person's name that is "telling stories" (Quoting or lying their asses off) , making up shit, in other words.  Then STFU.

 

Perhaps because Trump brags about killing people and getting away with it?

 

Bill

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19 hours ago, SpyCar said:

 

Here is an entire book on the matter, dope.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Towers-Deutsche-Donald-Destruction/dp/0062878816

 

LOL!  Seriously?  That’s the best you have, SC?   An article, as bgr39 noted, from the NYSlimes written by David Enrich?     What?    Did Mueller and company miss all that Enrich found out ... after FOUR YEARS of looking for something … ANYTHING … to impeach or imprison Trump with?  It would appear so since they never charged Trump with any of it.  Or could their failure to do so be because nothing Trump did was a crime … unlike so much that the Clintons and Obama did … which you blithely ignore?  


After all, Enrich published a long story in the NYTimes in February of this year ( https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/magazine/deutsche-bank-trump.html ) promoting this book (updated in June) and never mentioned the word "illegal" or "criminal" even ONCE.  Why the oversight?   He did, however, include the word "crime" once, near the end of the article, when he vaguely mentioned  “Trump’s well-­documented ties to the organized-­crime world" and his having "done business with people in or affiliated with the mob in Atlantic City and New York”.   Hmmmmmmmm.   I wonder if Enrich ever did an expose on the Clintons’ connections to the mob and organized crime?  No?


Well he should have, because I can talk you’re ears off about that, SC.  In fact, I recall that I tried to have a discussion with you about this, back 2016, when you made mention of Trump’s “proven mob-connections.”   Remember?   And when I did, you … well … you RAN.  You didn’t want anything to do with a discussion of mob-connected Clinton lackey Patsy Thomasson or mobster Don Lasater.  You didn’t want to talk about how Bill Clinton grew up in Hot Springs, Arkansas where Lucky Luciano was arrested or that a 60s FBI investigation concluded Hot Springs had the largest illegal gambling operation in the US.  You ran off before we could discuss in detail how Bill’s mother was rubbing shoulders with mobsters in that little town.  And how Clinton biographer, Roger Morris, wrote in regards to Clinton’s first political race after he returned to Arkansas after college, that "A relative unknown, he faces an imposing field of rivals in the Democratic primary, and beyond, in the general election, a powerful Republican incumbent. Yet as soon as he enters the race, Mr. Clinton enjoys a decisive seven-to-one advantage in campaign funds over the nearest Democratic competitor, and will spend twice as much as his well-supported GOP opponent.”  Now where do you think that money came from, SpyCar?

 

The Arkansas Mob. As I pointed out to you back then, “Bill’s campaign was funded in this by his Uncle Raymond and *businessman* Gabe Crawford, who Roger Morris noted “presided over a backroom bookie operation that was one of Hot Springs' most lucrative criminal enterprises. [And the] inimitable Uncle Raymond - who had also played a pivotal behind-the-scenes role in keeping young Bill out of the Vietnam draft - was far more than an auto dealer. In the nationally prominent fount of vice and corruption that was Hot Springs from the 1920s to the 1980s (its barely concealed casinos generated more income than Las Vegas well into the 1960s), the uncle's Buick agency and other businesses and real estate were widely thought to be facades for illegal gambling, drug money laundering and other ventures, in which Raymond was a partner. He was a minion of the organized crime overlord who controlled the American Middle South for decades, New Orleans boss Carlos Marcello or 'Mafia Kingfish' as his biographer John Davis called him."   Gee … I wonder if Enrich had ANY interest in this story back in 2016 when the Clintons were trying to get back in the White House by hook or ... well ... CROOK.    Bet he didn’t.   You certainly didn’t.  You were eager to see those mobsters back in the Whitehouse.

 

HYPOCRITE.


Seriously, *Bill*, I wonder if Enrich ever explored the question of where the Clintons and Obama got their money?  Hmmmmmm?  If not, why not?   Could it be that he's a partisan hack for the democRATS fabricating mountains out of molehills where Trump is concerned … just like democRATS have been doing the last 4 years on topic after topic?  Sure sounds like it.   Which is, of course, why they got NOWHERE with any of their accusations in those 4 (5?) years.   Just like Enrich and you will get nowhere with this one too … SNOWFLAKE.   :D

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8 hours ago, maineman said:

give us an example.

 

You can't because I do not lie.

 

Yes you do ... all the time, COWARD.  Yeah, you have me on ignore, but it's not because I posted "a seventy-five PAGE article about Ron Brown's posthumous skull Xray" as you have stated repeatedly on the forum ... because I haven't.  It's because I destroyed you over and over and over in debates on various topics, including the topic of Ron Brown's suspicious death.  Fact is, I made well crafted, concise, very complete, fact-filled posts detailing those suspicious circumstances ... posts like this one: http://www.liberalforum.org/index.php?/topic/212045-study-cnn-is-completely-obsessed-with-donald-trump-and-not-in-a-good-way/?p=1059885916  and when I've proven your statement a lie (here, for instance, http://www.liberalforum.org/index.php?/topic/211980-trump-disclosed-highly-classified-material-to-russia/?p=1059886185 ), you were already in hiding, COWARD.

 

Your constant repetition of this lie about what I've posted regarding Ron Brown from behind the ignore filter is a measure of your own cowardice and dishonesty, not only on this subject but every subject I ever attempted to debate you on.  Want to hear some more of your lies?   You claimed Al Qaeda and Saddam were sworn enemies.   When I pointed out that was untrue and why ( http://www.liberalforum.org/index.php?/topic/209806-how-many-of-you-think-iraq-war-was-a-mistake/?p=1059836998 ), you RAN.  Being such a military genius and so well informed, you had to have known it was untrue when you said it, making it a lie.   And when you claimed “I know that the issues of BIll's sexual misconduct have been adjudicated to their conclusion in a court of law and ad infinitum in the court of public opinion”, you either lied or you were displaying supreme ignorance … as I pointed out in this post:   http://www.liberalforum.org/index.php?/topic/211421-george-wills-latest/?p=1059874791 .

 

Just saying … you lying COWARD.
 

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1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

 

Perhaps because Trump brags about killing people and getting away with it?

 

 

 

That’s sort of hypocritical of you, since you likely didn’t complain when Obama did it.


https://progressive.org/dispatches/obama-brags-really-good-killing-people/

 

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Now imagine -- no, actually, just read this, which explains that Journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann have a new HBO film script (a.k.a. "a book") in which they quote President Obama boasting to aides that he's "really good at killing people" with drones.


It's true, not only according to Halperin and Heilemann, but all other available statistics on the matter. Obama is better at killing people than any commander-in-chief to date. Estimates vary, and honestly no one's bothering to keep track, but 5,000 dead bodies is a decent guess -- which is based largely on Sen. Lindsey Graham's tally of 4,700 from last February. It's likely higher by something between "a smidge" to "HolyJeebusGodinHeaven!"


So, woo-hoo, 5,000 terrorists dead, yeah? Would you take no instead?


The actual number of people these figures represent who were really considered a threat to the United States is closer to just 100.


A 2012 Stanford-NYU joint study determined that for every dead "terrorist" blown to bits by our wicked warbots, 49 innocent civilians get blown up along with them. We're talking grannies and kids here. No wonder retired General Stanley McChrystal warned that our drones are "hated on a visceral level."


Even if the general doesn't know much about diplomacy, he definitely knows a thing or two about hating stuff (namely people) on a visceral level.


Obama's admitted talent for killing is largely due to the rise of drone technology coinciding with his presidency, but bragging about it to his aides is simply untoward, just adding insult to injury.


Still, the Nobel Peace Prize-winning president is being far too modest. He's not just "really good" at killing people. He's great (!) at it.

 


Or how about your idol Hillary Clinton who said in 2011, laughing about the death of Qaddafi … “We came, ,we saw, he died.“   And so did thousands of others.


And don’t forget your God … Bill Clinton, who just hours before 9/11 boasted to a group of Australians “I Could Have Killed” Osama bin Laden.   

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15 hours ago, maineman said:

Have you been overseas during the reign of the clown?  I have.  They're laughing.  And they feel sorry for us.

 

 

Those people are idiots.   

 

What kind of fuck concerns himself with the opinions of leftist foreigners?     

 

You do it seems.   The same people loved Obama, the worst president in our history.  You’re a globalist Maineman...  you do not put America first.  

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1 hour ago, BeAChooser said:

 

That’s sort of hypocritical of you, since you likely didn’t complain when Obama did it.


https://progressive.org/dispatches/obama-brags-really-good-killing-people/

 


Or how about your idol Hillary Clinton who said in 2011, laughing about the death of Qaddafi … “We came, ,we saw, he died.“   And so did thousands of others.


And don’t forget your God … Bill Clinton, who just hours before 9/11 boasted to a group of Australians “I Could Have Killed” Osama bin Laden.   

 

You Trumpists love terrorists who kill Americans.

 

Shame on you traitors!

 

Bill

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1 hour ago, BeAChooser said:

 

LOL!  Seriously?  That’s the best you have, SC?   An article, as bgr39 noted, from the NYSlimes written by David Enrich?     What?    Did Mueller and company miss all that Enrich found out ... after FOUR YEARS of looking for something … ANYTHING … to impeach or imprison Trump with?  It would appear so since they never charged Trump with any of it.  Or could their failure to do so be because nothing Trump did was a crime … unlike so much that the Clintons and Obama did … which you blithely ignore?  


After all, Enrich published a long story in the NYTimes in February of this year ( https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/magazine/deutsche-bank-trump.html ) promoting this book (updated in June) and never mentioned the word "illegal" or "criminal" even ONCE.  Why the oversight?   He did, however, include the word "crime" once, near the end of the article, when he vaguely mentioned  “Trump’s well-­documented ties to the organized-­crime world" and his having "done business with people in or affiliated with the mob in Atlantic City and New York”.   Hmmmmmmmm.   I wonder if Enrich ever did an expose on the Clintons’ connections to the mob and organized crime?  No?


Well he should have, because I can talk you’re ears off about that, SC.  In fact, I recall that I tried to have a discussion with you about this, back 2016, when you made mention of Trump’s “proven mob-connections.”   Remember?   And when I did, you … well … you RAN.  You didn’t want anything to do with a discussion of mob-connected Clinton lackey Patsy Thomasson or mobster Don Lasater.  You didn’t want to talk about how Bill Clinton grew up in Hot Springs, Arkansas where Lucky Luciano was arrested or that a 60s FBI investigation concluded Hot Springs had the largest illegal gambling operation in the US.  You ran off before we could discuss in detail how Bill’s mother was rubbing shoulders with mobsters in that little town.  And how Clinton biographer, Roger Morris, wrote in regards to Clinton’s first political race after he returned to Arkansas after college, that "A relative unknown, he faces an imposing field of rivals in the Democratic primary, and beyond, in the general election, a powerful Republican incumbent. Yet as soon as he enters the race, Mr. Clinton enjoys a decisive seven-to-one advantage in campaign funds over the nearest Democratic competitor, and will spend twice as much as his well-supported GOP opponent.”  Now where do you think that money came from, SpyCar?

 

The Arkansas Mob. As I pointed out to you back then, “Bill’s campaign was funded in this by his Uncle Raymond and *businessman* Gabe Crawford, who Roger Morris noted “presided over a backroom bookie operation that was one of Hot Springs' most lucrative criminal enterprises. [And the] inimitable Uncle Raymond - who had also played a pivotal behind-the-scenes role in keeping young Bill out of the Vietnam draft - was far more than an auto dealer. In the nationally prominent fount of vice and corruption that was Hot Springs from the 1920s to the 1980s (its barely concealed casinos generated more income than Las Vegas well into the 1960s), the uncle's Buick agency and other businesses and real estate were widely thought to be facades for illegal gambling, drug money laundering and other ventures, in which Raymond was a partner. He was a minion of the organized crime overlord who controlled the American Middle South for decades, New Orleans boss Carlos Marcello or 'Mafia Kingfish' as his biographer John Davis called him."   Gee … I wonder if Enrich had ANY interest in this story back in 2016 when the Clintons were trying to get back in the White House by hook or ... well ... CROOK.    Bet he didn’t.   You certainly didn’t.  You were eager to see those mobsters back in the Whitehouse.

 

HYPOCRITE.


Seriously, *Bill*, I wonder if Enrich ever explored the question of where the Clintons and Obama got their money?  Hmmmmmm?  If not, why not?   Could it be that he's a partisan hack for the democRATS fabricating mountains out of molehills where Trump is concerned … just like democRATS have been doing the last 4 years on topic after topic?  Sure sounds like it.   Which is, of course, why they got NOWHERE with any of their accusations in those 4 (5?) years.   Just like Enrich and you will get nowhere with this one too … SNOWFLAKE.   :D

 

Ha ha. You are busted.

 

NY Times vs John Birch Society Treehouse. What's a better source?

 

You are insane.

 

Bill

 

 

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