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A simple lesson on why scientists and statisticians use RATIOS to accurately compare unequal quantities such as population (FOR pmurT and other math illiterates)

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You hear EVERY DAY about how HORRIBLE the U.S. death count concerning COVID is. How horribly Trump has FAILED US!!!!!!!!!! 

 

When was the last time you heard a media outlet give out deaths per capita? The actual scientific comparison that accounts for drastically unequal populations? NEVER, because they are pushing an agenda, not actual facts. 

Been up since July 12th and for the most part, leftists completely ignore it because it contains FACTS. 

 

We are now down to 13th in mortality from COVID-19 and falling, NOT NUMBER 1 like the media would like you to believe.https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

 

You CANNOT compare total deaths in a country with 325 million people to a country with 20 million....

 

This doesn't take into account that it's suspected China has had possibly 8 times more deaths and cases than reported( along with other countries).

 

You CANNOT compare black violent crime to white violent crime when blacks are 13% of the population and whites are 87% of the population without using RATIOS.......

 

Any questions? 

 

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Just now, Str8tEdge said:

@pmurT @Scout @Fit2Serve @XavierOnassis for starters.

 

Anyone see these uneducated, stupid posters make inaccurate comparisons, just lead them back here for lesson 1 on ratios. 

 

I just dusting off my math sheepskin.  

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10 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

You hear EVERY DAY about how HORRIBLE the U.S. death count concerning COVID is. How horribly Trump has FAILED US!!!!!!!!!! 

 

When was the last time you heard a media outlet give out deaths per capita? The actual scientific comparison that accounts for drastically unequal populations? NEVER, because they are pushing an agenda, not actual facts. 

Been up since July 12th and for the most part, leftists completely ignore it because it contains FACTS. 

 

We are now down to 13th in mortality from COVID-19 and falling, NOT NUMBER 1 like the media would like you to believe.https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

 

You CANNOT compare total deaths in a country with 325 million people to a country with 20 million....

 

This doesn't take into account that it's suspected China has had possibly 8 times more deaths and cases than reported( along with other countries).

 

You CANNOT compare black violent crime to white violent crime when blacks are 13% of the population and whites are 87% of the population without using RATIOS.......

 

Any questions? 

 

 

Yawn.  It only takes you 6 months to realize this?  Sheesh. 

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1 hour ago, Scout said:

 

Yawn.  It only takes you 6 months to realize this?  Sheesh. 

Uh, no. Blacks have been committed way more crime than whites, for decades. 

 

You just don't hear about it because some people don't like the facts. 

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1 hour ago, BeAChooser said:

 

Sorry, but at least 3 of those individuals can't be educated on this or any matter.  They've proven that over and over.  They've just keep on spewing their nonsense.

Well, I'm the eternal optimist lol....

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1 hour ago, Str8tEdge said:

 

uneducated, stupid posters

 

 

 

LOL don't be so hard on your mom up in here LOL and remember too, the FBI's table 43 showed that Whites committed 72% of all violent crime in 2017-'19 ... but ...

 

that is still meaningless to, percentages, since violent crime victims do not care about percentages when each if their lives has been ripped to shreds.

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3 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

LOL don't be so hard on your mom up in here LOL and remember too, the FBI's table 43 showed that Whites committed 72% of all violent crime in 2017-'19 ... but ...

 

that is still meaningless to, percentages, since violent crime victims do not care about percentages when each if their lives has been ripped to shreds.

^^^^^Obviously didn't understand the OP or the reason why science uses ratios. 

 

Not everyone is capable of understanding Junior High science and math concepts. 

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37 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

 

Not everyone is capable of understanding Junior High science and math concepts. 

 

I agree, it's the same thing I used to say in grad school as GTA tutoring Engr Math plus Probability & Stats plus Digital Logic ... they also enhance problem solving skills in, real life, such as possessing the logic to know when ratios simply are n/a.

 

For example, you have to show where any rapists or killers or etc used Race of their victim, as a reason to rape or kill, before you flaunt the stats in the way that you do ... Other than that, you're just comparing apples to oranges.

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27 minutes ago, pmurT said:

 

I agree, it's the same thing I used to say in grad school as GTA tutoring Engr Math plus Probability & Stats plus Digital Logic ... they also enhance problem solving skills in, real life, such as possessing the logic to know when ratios simply are n/a.

 

For example, you have to show where any rapists or killers or etc used Race of their victim, as a reason to rape or kill, before you flaunt the stats in the way that you do ... Other than that, you're just comparing apples to oranges.

😂He just tried to claim a ratio is not applicable when comparing 87% of the population to 13% of the population!!!!!!

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Nope, that is clearly not what I said.

 

Therefore you should do the right thing and apologize to, readers here, for you wasting their time reading your lie that you just told on me here lol :)

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39 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

😂He just tried to claim a ratio is not applicable when comparing 87% of the population to 13% of the population!!!!!!

 

Here, consider this analogy to help you see the irrational argument you present;

 

Let say our ozone layer hath finally depleted to life-threatening levels and USA scientists developed a satellite type of hyperbolic shield which hovers over the continental USA along the the sun's path. Perfectly protecting us from UV.

And so our Fed GOVT & 50 state GOVTs all announced an imperative which will pay each USA citizen $1-million per sq. cm of melonocytes that human bodies can produce, as the key element needed to reenergize the shield annually.

 

Well, that means dark negros are about to get wealthy.

Yes and us pasty-White Northern Europe looking chaps, are screwed, since there were no melanocytes DNA up on Caucus Mtn where we originated.

 

Do we then, angrily, blame that 13% of the population which is about to get wealthy??

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4 hours ago, pmurT said:

 

Here, consider this analogy to help you see the irrational argument you present;

 

Let say our ozone layer hath finally depleted to life-threatening levels and USA scientists developed a satellite type of hyperbolic shield which hovers over the continental USA along the the sun's path. Perfectly protecting us from UV.

And so our Fed GOVT & 50 state GOVTs all announced an imperative which will pay each USA citizen $1-million per sq. cm of melonocytes that human bodies can produce, as the key element needed to reenergize the shield annually.

 

Well, that means dark negros are about to get wealthy.

Yes and us pasty-White Northern Europe looking chaps, are screwed, since there were no melanocytes DNA up on Caucus Mtn where we originated.

 

Do we then, angrily, blame that 13% of the population which is about to get wealthy??

All you’re doing is proving you’re highly irrational when it comes to skin color, racist. It’s clear all you see and your entire world revolves around skin color. 
 

Logically, rationally and scientifically, ratios are used to compare populations or variables that are not equal. Skin color is never an excuse for being illogical,  irrational or unscientific. 

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3 hours ago, Str8tEdge said:

... Skin color is never an excuse for being illogical,  irrational or unscientific. 

 

But it your mind, skin color is always a good excuse for being a stealth-racist who promotes racial Inequality and White Privilege.

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8 hours ago, pmurT said:

 

Here, consider this analogy to help you see the irrational argument you present;

 

Let say our ozone layer hath finally depleted to life-threatening levels and USA scientists developed a satellite type of hyperbolic shield which hovers over the continental USA along the the sun's path. Perfectly protecting us from UV.

And so our Fed GOVT & 50 state GOVTs all announced an imperative which will pay each USA citizen $1-million per sq. cm of melonocytes that human bodies can produce, as the key element needed to reenergize the shield annually.

 

Well, that means dark negros are about to get wealthy.

Yes and us pasty-White Northern Europe looking chaps, are screwed, since there were no melanocytes DNA up on Caucus Mtn where we originated.

 

Do we then, angrily, blame that 13% of the population which is about to get wealthy??

Ozone can be manufactured with ease. So this is another non issue.

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36 minutes ago, 123urout said:

Ozone can be manufactured with ease. So this is another non issue.

 

This was an analogy, so the ozone element was non-existent. Stop being uselessly overzealous.

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1 hour ago, pmurT said:

 

But it your mind, skin color is always a good excuse for being a stealth-racist who promotes racial Inequality and White Privilege.

White Privilege LOL

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33 minutes ago, tunafish said:

 LOL

 

Yeah, exactly.

 

 




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by Bob Jensen
 


Here's what white privilege sounds like:

I am sitting in my University of Texas office, talking to a very bright and very conservative white student about affirmative action in college admissions, which he opposes and I support.

The student says he wants a level playing field with no unearned advantages for anyone. I ask him whether he thinks that in the United States being white has advantages. Have either of us, I ask, ever benefited from being white in a world run mostly by white people? Yes, he concedes, there is something real and tangible we could call white privilege.

So, if we live in a world of white privilege--unearned white privilege--how does that affect your notion of a level playing field? I ask.


He paused for a moment and said, "That really doesn't matter."

That statement, I suggested to him, reveals the ultimate white privilege: the privilege to acknowledge you have unearned privilege but ignore what it means.

That exchange led me to rethink the way I talk about race and racism with students. It drove home to me the importance of confronting the dirty secret that we white people carry around with us everyday: In a world of white privilege, some of what we have is unearned.

 

I think much of both the fear and anger that comes up around discussions of affirmative action has its roots in that secret. So these days, my goal is to talk openly and honestly about white supremacy and white privilege. White privilege, like any social phenomenon, is complex. In a white supremacist culture, all white people have privilege, whether or not they are overtly racist themselves.

 

There are general patterns, but such privilege plays out differently depending on context and other aspects of one's identity (in my case, being male gives me other kinds of privilege). Rather than try to tell others how white privilege has played out in their lives, I talk about how it has affected me.

I am as white as white gets in this country. I am of northern European heritage and I was raised in North Dakota, one of the whitest states in the country. I grew up in a virtually all-white world surrounded by racism, both personal and institutional. Because I didn't live near a reservation, I didn't even have exposure to the state's only numerically significant non-white population, American Indians.

I have struggled to resist that racist training and the ongoing racism of my culture. I like to think I have changed, even though I routinely trip over the lingering effects of that internalized racism and the institutional racism around me. But no matter how much I "fix" myself, one thing never changes--I walk through the world with white privilege.


What does that mean? Perhaps most importantly, when I seek admission to a university, apply for a job, or hunt for an apartment, I don't look threatening. Almost all of the people evaluating me for those things look like me--they are white. They see in me a reflection of themselves, and in a racist world that is an advantage. I smile. I am white. I am one of them. I am not dangerous. Even when I voice critical opinions, I am cut some slack. After all, I'm white.

My flaws also are more easily forgiven because I am white. Some complain that affirmative action has meant the university is saddled with mediocre minority professors. I have no doubt there are minority faculty who are mediocre, though I don't know very many. As Henry Louis Gates Jr. once pointed out, if affirmative action policies were in place for the next hundred years, it's possible that at the end of that time the university could have as many mediocre minority professors as it has mediocre white professors. That isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but is a simple observation that white privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white professors have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race, as well as on gender, class and ideology.


Some people resist the assertions that the United States is still a bitterly racist society and that the racism has real effects on real people. But white folks have long cut other white folks a break. I know, because I am one of them.

I am not a genius--as I like to say, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have been teaching full-time for six years, and I've published a reasonable amount of scholarship. Some of it is the unexceptional stuff one churns out to get tenure, and some of it, I would argue, actually is worth reading. I work hard, and I like to think that I'm a fairly decent teacher. Every once in awhile, I leave my office at the end of the day feeling like I really accomplished something. When I cash my paycheck, I don't feel guilty.


But, all that said, I know I did not get where I am by merit alone. I benefited from, among other things, white privilege. That doesn't mean that I don't deserve my job, or that if I weren't white I would never have gotten the job. It means simply that all through my life, I have soaked up benefits for being white. I grew up in fertile farm country taken by force from non-white indigenous people. I was educated in a well-funded, virtually all-white public school system in which I learned that white people like me made this country great. There I also was taught a variety of skills, including how to take standardized tests written by and for white people.

All my life I have been hired for jobs by white people. I was accepted for graduate school by white people. And I was hired for a teaching position at the predominantly white University of Texas, which had a white president, in a college headed by a white dean and in a department with a white chairman that at the time had one non-white tenured professor.

There certainly is individual variation in experience. Some white people have had it easier than me, probably because they came from wealthy families that gave them even more privilege. Some white people have had it tougher than me because they came from poorer families. White women face discrimination I will never know. But, in the end, white people all have drawn on white privilege somewhere in their lives.


Like anyone, I have overcome certain hardships in my life. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I work hard to stay there. But to feel good about myself and my work, I do not have to believe that "merit," as defined by white people in a white country, alone got me here. I can acknowledge that in addition to all that hard work, I got a significant boost from white privilege, which continues to protect me every day of my life from certain hardships.

At one time in my life, I would not have been able to say that, because I needed to believe that my success in life was due solely to my individual talent and effort. I saw myself as the heroic American, the rugged individualist. I was so deeply seduced by the culture's mythology that I couldn't see the fear that was binding me to those myths. Like all white Americans, I was living with the fear that maybe I didn't really deserve my success, that maybe luck and privilege had more to do with it than brains and hard work. I was afraid I wasn't heroic or rugged, that I wasn't special.

I let go of some of that fear when I realized that, indeed, I wasn't special, but that I was still me. What I do well, I still can take pride in, even when I know that the rules under which I work in are stacked in my benefit. I believe that until we let go of the fiction that people have complete control over their fate--that we can will ourselves to be anything we choose--then we will live with that fear. Yes, we should all dream big and pursue our dreams and not let anyone or anything stop us. But we all are the product both of what we will ourselves to be and what the society in which we live lets us be.

White privilege is not something I get to decide whether or not I want to keep. Every time I walk into a store at the same time as a black man and the security guard follows him and leaves me alone to shop, I am benefiting from white privilege. There is not space here to list all the ways in which white privilege plays out in our daily lives, but it is clear that I will carry this privilege with me until the day white supremacy is erased from this society.

Frankly, I don't think I will live to see that day; I am realistic about the scope of the task. However, I continue to have hope, to believe in the creative power of human beings to engage the world honestly and act morally. A first step for white people, I think, is to not be afraid to admit that we have benefited from white privilege. It doesn't mean we are frauds who have no claim to our success. It means we face a choice about what we do with our success...

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16 minutes ago, pmurT said:

...the ultimate white privilege: the privilege to acknowledge you have unearned privilege, but ignore what it means.

 

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11 hours ago, pmurT said:

, the FBI's table 43 showed that Whites committed 72% of all violent crime in 2017-'19 ..

 

 

that is   bull

 

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2 hours ago, pmurT said:

 

But it your mind, skin color is always a good excuse for being a stealth-racist who promotes racial Inequality and White Privilege.

Too bad you couldn’t provide one example to back up your idiotic assertions, kid. 

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6 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

that is   bull

 

@Str8tEdge

Pretty sure I kicked his ass on that. He claims we don’t need a ratio to accurately compare 87% of the population to 13%....😆

 

Then he tried to claim due to racism we didn’t need to. 

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1 hour ago, Str8tEdge said:

He claims we don’t need a ratio to accurately compare 87% of the population to 13%....😆

 

 

its  not even  13 %   is more  like  6%, considering its all just the  young  males

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