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56 minutes ago, SixShooter said:

 

No you don't.
 


You already conceded it's at the discretion of the employer. Therefore it is NOT a right, it's a permission.

 

IF IT WERE A RIGHT TO PROTEST AT WORK THE EMPLOYER WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STOP YOU 

 

 

OBVIOUSLY!!

 

free speech can be determined by the employer in the private sector.

 

however a government employee has other rules.

 

1) First of all, government employees are only protected by the First Amendment when they are speaking as private citizens. If their speech is part of their official job duties, then they can be fired or disciplined for it. This rule comes from a 2006 Supreme Court case, Garcetti v. Ceballos

 

 

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However, the role also brings with it many visible, informal responsibilities. These would typically vary depending upon the relationship between the President and Veep of the day, but have typically included:

  • Making public appearances representing the President
  • Performing ceremonial duties in place of the President
  • Acting as an adviser to the President
  • Meeting with heads of state or government of other countries

 

 

 

 
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However, the role also brings with it many visible, informal responsibilities. These would typically vary depending upon the relationship between the President and Veep of the day, but have typically included:

  • Making public appearances representing the President
  • Performing ceremonial duties in place of the President
  • Acting as an adviser to the President
  • Meeting with heads of state or government of other countries

 

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/08/mike-pence-nfl-walkout-stunt-taxpayers

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14 minutes ago, jerra- said:

However, the role also brings with it many visible, informal responsibilities. These would typically vary depending upon the relationship between the President and Veep of the day, but have typically included:

  • Making public appearances representing the President
  • Performing ceremonial duties in place of the President
  • Acting as an adviser to the President
  • Meeting with heads of state or government of other countries

 

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/08/mike-pence-nfl-walkout-stunt-taxpayers

Any true American should walk out after some scumbag filth kneels during the national anthem.

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When Vice President Mike Pence briefly attended a regular-season NFL game between the Colts and 49ers and left after the playing of the national anthem in October 2017, it cost taxpayers $325,000, according to documents released by the Department of Homeland Security acquired by the Huffington Post.

Pence departed Lucas Oil Stadium after noticing several Niners players kneeled in protest of racial injustice and police brutality, which had been started by former San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

An initial report from CNN estimated that the stunt cost taxpayers $242,000, due to flight expenses. But the Huffington Post asserts that the cost of the the flight was at least $250,000. Additionally, the cost of local law enforcement, an extra ambluance and extra trauma teams at local hospitals, all pushed the cost of Pence's visit to at least $325,000, according to the Huffington Post's report.

Some asserted that Pence's visit, which took place the day Peyton Manning had his number retired by the Colts, was a PR stunt, including Panthers safety Eric Reid, who was on the 49ers at the time. Pence tweeted a photo during the game which depicted him in Colts gear alongside his wife. However it was revealed soon after that the picture was a duplicate of a post from three years before.

President Donald Trump tweeted that he suggested Pence to leave the game if any players protested.

 
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1 minute ago, 123urout said:

Any true American should walk out after some scumbag filth kneels during the national anthem.

 

 

When Vice President Mike Pence briefly attended a regular-season NFL game between the Colts and 49ers and left after the playing of the national anthem in October 2017, it cost taxpayers $325,000

 

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Just now, jerra- said:

When Vice President Mike Pence briefly attended a regular-season NFL game between the Colts and 49ers and left after the playing of the national anthem in October 2017, it cost taxpayers $325,000, according to documents released by the Department of Homeland Security acquired by the Huffington Post.

Pence departed Lucas Oil Stadium after noticing several Niners players kneeled in protest of racial injustice and police brutality, which had been started by former San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

An initial report from CNN estimated that the stunt cost taxpayers $242,000, due to flight expenses. But the Huffington Post asserts that the cost of the the flight was at least $250,000. Additionally, the cost of local law enforcement, an extra ambluance and extra trauma teams at local hospitals, all pushed the cost of Pence's visit to at least $325,000, according to the Huffington Post's report.

Some asserted that Pence's visit, which took place the day Peyton Manning had his number retired by the Colts, was a PR stunt, including Panthers safety Eric Reid, who was on the 49ers at the time. Pence tweeted a photo during the game which depicted him in Colts gear alongside his wife. However it was revealed soon after that the picture was a duplicate of a post from three years before.

President Donald Trump tweeted that he suggested Pence to leave the game if any players protested.

 
 

You need to learn the basic concepts of Government,then you wont be so stupid.Here spend just 10 minutes on something true.

 

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3 minutes ago, 123urout said:

Any true American should walk out after some scumbag filth kneels during the national anthem.

 

 

he shouldn't have gone in the first place. america is not his personal piggy bank.

 

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President Donald Trump tweeted that he suggested Pence to leave the game if any players protested.

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1 hour ago, jerra- said:

free speech can be determined by the employer in the private sector.

 

Correct. But that is not a RIGHT. That is a PERMISSION.

 

You have the RIGHT to wear casual clothing in public on your own time.

 

If your employer requires business dress, you do NOT have the RIGHT to wear casual clothing at work.

 

If your employer grants you PERMISSION to wear casual clothing on Fridays, is that a RIGHT or a PERMISSION?

 

 

(Hint #1: the correct answer is hidden within the question.)

 

(Hint #2: Employers cannot grant or take away rights, only permissions)

 

ANSWER THE QUESTION IN BOLD RED PRINT ABOVE

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The cost of rest and recreation for U.S. presidents can be hard to calculate. But government records make reasonable estimates possible. The short answer: Taxpayers are footing big bills in security and travel costs for presidents to get away from the White House. President Barack Obama and his family cost the American taxpayers in the range of $100 million during his eight years in office. Right now, President Donald Trump is on track to cost something close to that in his first year.

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Just now, jerra- said:

The cost of rest and recreation for U.S. presidents can be hard to calculate. But government records make reasonable estimates possible. The short answer: Taxpayers are footing big bills in security and travel costs for presidents to get away from the White House. President Barack Obama and his family cost the American taxpayers in the range of $100 million during his eight years in office. Right now, President Donald Trump is on track to cost something close to that in his first year.

LIE!

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  • President Donald Trump's trips to golf courses in Florida, New Jersey, Los Angeles, and Scotland have cost taxpayers at least $102 million, according to a HuffPost report.
  • That figure is 255 times the presidential salary that Trump declined to take, HuffPost said.
  • HuffPost's breakdown of estimated costs found that Trump's two dozen trips to Florida cost taxpayers $81 million, his 15 trips to New Jersey cost $17 million, his one LA trip cost $1 million, and his Scotland trip cost $3 million
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No president in history has imposed larger personal lifestyle costs on the taxpayer than Donald Trump. https://t.co/Zvp2cyJoNS

— David Frum (@davidfrum) August 21, 2017

In an interview, Frum clarified that "personal lifestyle costs" excluded work trips, such as the G20 conference in Hamburg, Germany, or presidential residences where security costs are fixed, like the presidential retreat at Camp David.

The pricey personal trips Frum had in mind include weekend trips to Trump-owned golf resorts in Palm Beach, Fla., Sterling, Va., and Bedminster, N.J.

"The Florida/Bedminster costs are entirely volitional, as are the costs of Melania’s decision to live apart from her husband for most of his first year in office. There is no public purpose to any of those decisions,"

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20 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

After the emancipation proclamation, whites began erecting what is today known as the industrial prison complex.  Whites became irate that they must now give up their property & pay for serves they once owned.  Whites began arresting minorities for matters such as homelessness, jaywalking, stealing food to feed their families bcus whites owned all the work.

 

Once incarcerated, whites threw them in the chain gang in an effort to retrieve the labor they once owned.

“Our country”  Who is our?    Next thing you’ll be pointing out a few successful black people to suggest that somehow our country is’t systemically racist and built on the backs of Euro/anglo white emperialism.

There’s a place for monuments... its called museums. 
 

I sure hope you’re not referencing the confederate statues either.

I don’t know what they think.  Unlike you, I don’t presume to know everything.

I wish I had the luxury you have of just making random blanket statements w/out an assurance of credibility.  
 

You’re letting your predispositions control your emotions & (ir)rationality.  

Well like I said none of that takes place anymore. But you can still get arrested for breaking the law. My advice stop breaking the law.

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EMT and aspiring nurse Breonna Taylor, 26, was shot to death by police in her own home on March 13. In what’s been described as a “botched raid,” officers barged into Taylor’s apartment in Louisville, Kentucky, as she lay sleeping, and fired multiple rounds. Three months after she was senselessly killed, Taylor’s name has been chanted all over the country at mass protests against racist police brutality, which erupted after the death of Minneapolis resident George Floyd, also at the hands of police.

 

Taylor was shot eight times by police. According to a lawsuit filed by her family, her killing was the result of a botched drug-warrant execution. No drugs were found; the warrant in question targeted another person, who lived miles away and had already been detained by the time police entered Taylor’s home.

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46 minutes ago, TBHWT said:

Well like I said none of that takes place anymore. But you can still get arrested for breaking the law. My advice stop breaking the law.

The systemic prison system still exists, TBHWT.

 

I do agree w/ abiding by the law.  
 

But that’s separate from a nuanced/refined discussion than... just don’t break the law.   

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30 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

what law did breona taylor break?

 

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https://www.thecut.com/2020/07/breonna-taylor-louisville-shooting-police-what-we-know.html

Hey, shit happens when the police get fired upon she just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. That doesn't justify Rioting tearing down our history and burning buildings.

 

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45 minutes ago, jerra- said:

EMT and aspiring nurse Breonna Taylor, 26, was shot to death by police in her own home on March 13. In what’s been described as a “botched raid,” officers barged into Taylor’s apartment in Louisville, Kentucky, as she lay sleeping, and fired multiple rounds. Three months after she was senselessly killed, Taylor’s name has been chanted all over the country at mass protests against racist police brutality, which erupted after the death of Minneapolis resident George Floyd, also at the hands of police.

 

Taylor was shot eight times by police. According to a lawsuit filed by her family, her killing was the result of a botched drug-warrant execution. No drugs were found; the warrant in question targeted another person, who lived miles away and had already been detained by the time police entered Taylor’s home.

There is no racist police brutality fool.

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16 minutes ago, jrock2310 said:

The systemic prison system still exists, TBHWT.

 

I do agree w/ abiding by the law.  
 

But that’s separate from a nuanced/refined discussion than... just don’t break the law.   

I'm starting to dislike the word "systemic".  Seems to be a new favorite word of the left for everything they don't like. And the Prison system will  always exist unless people realize they can't break the law. The majority of people locked up today are blacks that should tell you something about who is committing all the crime in this country.

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39 minutes ago, TBHWT said:

Hey, shit happens when the police get fired upon she just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. That doesn't justify Rioting tearing down our history and burning buildings.

 

 

 

wrong place?  she was in her own home.

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