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15 hours ago, ROG62 said:

Denial doesn't make it false...

 

Are ewe a member of nambla?

doesn't make it true either and frankly, I loathe Nambla but as a liberal, I recognize their right to exist and to express themselves.  

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White racists today are politically homeless. There is no party pushing for white power. Plenty of black and brown racists welcome in the Democrat party. 

The Democrat party is the  worst party  in US  history 

The democrat party has a long and sordid history of supporting slavery and racism. They promoted Jim Crow and fought against the integration of society. They fought against the Civil Rights movement.

15 minutes ago, ScottMon said:

doesn't make it true either and frankly, I loathe Nambla but as a liberal, I recognize their right to exist and to express themselves.  

AND YET YOU ARE AGAINST ANYTHING ISRAEL DOES... YOU POS BIGOT SHILLY WILLY

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2 hours ago, ScottMon said:

doesn't make it true either and frankly, I loathe Nambla but as a liberal, I recognize their right to exist and to express themselves.  

Express? You mean by fondling and abusing little children? You're as guilty as they are and hope to you don't have any children...

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49 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

Express? You mean by fondling and abusing little children? You're as guilty as they are and hope to you don't have any children...

Now you're putting words in my mouth.  For shame.   1st Amendment protects unpopular speech.   NAMBLA, Like the NRA, has the right to assembly and protest.  

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4 minutes ago, ScottMon said:

Now you're putting words in my mouth.  For shame.   1st Amendment protects unpopular speech.   NAMBLA, Like the NRA, has the right to assembly and protest.  

Wrong

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5 minutes ago, ScottMon said:

Now you're putting words in my mouth.  For shame.   1st Amendment protects unpopular speech.   NAMBLA, Like the NRA, has the right to assembly and protest.  

NRA members don't destroy lives, NAMBLA members do...

Do you see the difference?

 

Protesters have the right to assemble and protest, RIOTERS do not...

Do you see the difference?

 

SHAME!

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2 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

NRA members don't destroy lives, NAMBLA members do...

Do you see the difference?

 

Protesters have the right to assemble and protest, RIOTERS do not...

Do you see the difference?

 

SHAME!

Now you're changing the story.  

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4 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

NRA members don't destroy lives, NAMBLA members do...

Do you see the difference?

 

Protesters have the right to assemble and protest, RIOTERS do not...

Do you see the difference?

 

SHAME!

I don't like the NRA but I'll never stop them from protesting.  Same with NAMBLA.  

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7 minutes ago, ScottMon said:

I don't like the NRA but I'll never stop them from protesting.  Same with NAMBLA.  

NAMBLA WILL GET HURT IF THEY START ANY SHIT

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On 7/24/2020 at 10:14 AM, NeoConvict said:

The democrat party has a long and sordid history of supporting slavery and racism. They promoted Jim Crow and fought against the integration of society. They fought against the Civil Rights movement. They claim to have learned the errors of their ways but that is not good enough. The democrat brand is forever soiled by the actions of powerful white men oppressing and killing minorities. They should retire the democrat brand, a brand far more tied to the wholesale slaughter of minorities than Aunt Jemima or Uncle Ben or Lady Antebellum ever could be. #canceldemocrats

 

The democrat political party should be removed according to their own 2020 legislation.

 

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36 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g   i-t

 

If you want to get on your knees before BLM and the black power movement, then do so.

But white Texans are not going to join you.   We treat everyone equal.   If it is wrong for

the KKK to pursue white racial power, then it is also wrong for the black Dems to pursue

black racial power.  We treated everyone equal.     Nobody gets 'special'  treatment.

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58 minutes ago, Taipan said:

 

If you want to get on your knees before BLM and the black power movement, then do so.

But white Texans are not going to join you.   We treat everyone equal.   If it is wrong for

the KKK to pursue white racial power, then it is also wrong for the black Dems to pursue

black racial power.  We treated everyone equal.     Nobody gets 'special'  treatment.

 

no one is asking you for a thing. 

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24 minutes ago, ScottMon said:

Do you?  Between NAMBLA and the NRA, they may get molested or gunned down.  

I asked you first...

In the 148 yrs of the NRA,  nothing much is available about any members gunning down anyone...

 

Here's some more information about your beloved group...

 

Events such as Anita Bryant's 1977 "Save Our Children" campaign and a police raid of a Toronto-area newspaper, The Body Politic, for publishing "Men Loving Boys Loving Men" set the stage for the founding of NAMBLA.[5]

In December 1977, police raided a house in the Boston suburb Revere. Twenty-four men were arrested and indicted on over 100 felony counts of the statutory rape of boys aged eight to fifteen.[8] Suffolk County District Attorney Garrett H. Byrnefound the men had used drugs and video games to lure the boys into a house, where they photographed them as they engaged in sexual activity. The men were members of a "sex ring"; Byrne said the arrest was "the tip of the iceberg".[9][10][5]Commenting on this issue, Boston magazine described NAMBLA as "the most despised group of men in America", which was "founded mostly by eccentric, boy-loving leftists".[5] The "Boston-Boise Committee", a gay rights organization, was formed in response to these events (which they termed the "Boston witch-hunt"), allegedly in order to promote solidarity amongst gay men, saying in an official leaflet that: "The closet is weak. There is strength in unity and openness."[11] NAMBLA's founding was inspired by this organization.[11] It was co-founded by historian David Thorstad.[12]

In 1982, a NAMBLA member was falsely linked to the disappearance of Etan Patz. Although the accusation was groundless, the negative publicity was disastrous to the organization.[13] NAMBLA published a book A Witchhunt Foiled: The FBI vs. NAMBLA, which documented these events.[14] In testimony before the United States Senate, NAMBLA was exonerated from criminal activities; it said, "It is the pedophile with no organized affiliations who is the real threat to children".[15]

Mike Echols, the author of I Know My First Name Is Steven, infiltrated NAMBLA and recorded his observations in his book, which was published in 1991. Echols published the names, addresses and telephone numbers of eighty suspected NAMBLA members on his website, which led to death threats being made to people who were not members of the organization.[5]

Onell R. Soto, a San Diego Union-Tribune writer, wrote in February 2005, "Law enforcement officials and mental health professionals say that while NAMBLA's membership numbers are small, the group has a dangerous ripple effect through the Internet by sanctioning the behavior of those who would abuse children".[4]

ILGA controversy

Main article: International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association § Controversy and loss of UN consultative status

In 1993, the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) achieved United Nations consultative status. NAMBLA's membership in ILGA drew heavy criticism and caused the suspension of ILGA. Many gay organizations called for the ILGA to dissolve ties with NAMBLA. Republican Senator Jesse Helms proposed a bill to withhold US$119 million in UN contributions until U.S. President Bill Clinton could certify that no UN agency grants any official status to organizations that condoned pedophilia.[16] The bill was unanimously approved by Congress and signed into law by Clinton in April 1994.[17]

In 1994, ILGA expelled NAMBLA— the first U.S.-based organization to be a member[12]—as well as Vereniging Martijn and Project Truth,[17] because they were judged to be "groups whose predominant aim is to support or promote pedophilia".[citation needed]Although ILGA removed NAMBLA, the UN reversed its decision to grant ILGA special consultative status. Repeated attempts by ILGA to regain special status with the UN succeeded in 2006.[18]

Partially in response to the NAMBLA situation,[17] Gregory King of the Human Rights Campaign later said, "NAMBLA is not a gay organization ... they are not part of our community and we thoroughly reject their efforts to insinuate that pedophilia is an issue related to gay and lesbian civil rights".[19] NAMBLA said, "man/boy love is by definition homosexual", that "the Western homosexual tradition from Socrates to Wilde to Gide ... [and] many non Western homo sexualities from New Guinea and Persia to the Zulu and the Japanese" were formed by pederasty, that "man/boy lovers are part of the gay movement and central to gay history and culture", and that "homosexuals denying that it is 'not gay' to be attracted to adolescent boys are just as ludicrous as heterosexuals saying it's 'not heterosexual' to be attracted to adolescent girls".[19]

Curley v. NAMBLA

Main article: Curley v. NAMBLA

In 2000, a Boston couple, Robert and Barbara Curley, sued NAMBLA for the wrongful death of their son. According to the suit, defendants Charles Jaynes and Salvatore Sicari, who were convicted of murdering the Curleys' son Jeffrey, "stalked ... tortured, murdered and mutilated [his] body on or about October 1, 1997. Upon information and belief immediately prior to said acts, Charles Jaynes accessed NAMBLA's website at the Boston Public Library."[20] The lawsuit said, "NAMBLA serves as a conduit for an underground network of pedophiles in the United States who use their NAMBLA association and contacts therein and the Internet to obtain and promote pedophile activity".[20] Jaynes wrote in his diary, "This was a turning point in discovery of myself ... NAMBLA's Bulletin helped me to become aware of my own sexuality and acceptance of it ... ".[21]

Citing cases in which NAMBLA members were convicted of sexual offenses against children, Larry Frisoli, the attorney representing the Curleys, said the organization is a "training ground" for adults who wish to seduce children, in which men exchange strategies to find and groom child sex partners. Frisoli also said NAMBLA has sold on its website "The Rape and Escape Manual", which gave details about the avoidance of capture and prosecution.[22] The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) stepped in to defend NAMBLA as a free speech matter;[23] it won a dismissal because NAMBLA is organized as an unincorporated association rather than a corporation. John Reinstein, the director of the ACLU Massachusetts, said although NAMBLA "may extol conduct which is currently illegal", there was nothing on its website that "advocated or incited the commission of any illegal acts, including murder or rape".[24]

A NAMBLA founder said the case would "break our backs, even if we win, which we will".[5] Media reports from 2006 said that for practical purposes the group no longer exists and that it consists only of a web site maintained by a few enthusiasts.[5] The Curleys continued the suit as a wrongful death action against individual NAMBLA members, some of whom were active in the group's leadership. The targets of the wrongful death suits included David Thorstad, a co-founder of NAMBLA. The lawsuit was dropped in April 2008 after a judge ruled that a key witness was not competent to testify.[25]

Opposition

The first documented opposition to NAMBLA from LGBT organizations occurred at the conference that organized the first gay march on Washington in 1979.[26][better source needed] In 1980, a group, called the Lesbian Caucus, distributed a flyer urging women to split from the annual New York City Gay Pride March, because according to the group, the organizing committee had been dominated by NAMBLA and its supporters.[26][better source needed] The next year, after some lesbians threatened to picket, the Cornell University group Gay People at Cornell (Gay PAC) rescinded its invitation to NAMBLA founder David Thorstad to be the keynote speaker at the annual May Gay Festival.[26][better source needed] In the following years, gay rights groups tried to block NAMBLA’s participation in gay pride parades, prompting leading gay rights figure Harry Hay to wear a sign proclaiming "NAMBLA walks with me" as he participated in a 1986 gay pride march in Los Angeles.[27]

By the mid-1980s, NAMBLA was virtually alone in its positions and found itself politically isolated.[28][better source needed] Support for "groups perceived as being on the fringe of the gay community," such as NAMBLA, vanished in the process.[28][better source needed] In 1994, a New York LGBT rights group called Stonewall 25 voted to ban NAMBLA from its international march on the United Nations in June of that year, accusing the religious right in the US for conflating child abuse and pedophilia for "twisted interests".[29]

In 1994, NAMBLA was again banned from the march commemorating Stonewall. Instead, members of NAMBLA and the Gay Liberation Front formed their own competing march called "The Spirit of Stonewall".[30] The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) adopted a document called "Position Statement Regarding NAMBLA", which said GLAAD "deplores the North American Man Boy Love Association's (NAMBLA) goals, which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD."[31] Also in 1994 the Board of Directors of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) adopted a resolution on NAMBLA that said, "NGLTF condemns all abuse of minors, both sexual and any other kind, perpetrated by adults. Accordingly, NGLTF condemns the organizational goals of NAMBLA and any other such organization."[31]

In April 2013, the hacktivist group Anonymous prevented NAMBLA's website from being accessed as part of an operation dubbed "Operation Alice Day".[32][33] The timing of the attack coincided with Alice Day, a Pedophilia Pride Day celebrated by a small group of pedophiles and their supporters on April 25.[34][35][36]

Support

Allen Ginsberg, poet and father of the Beat Generation, was an affiliated member of NAMBLA.[37] Claiming to have joined the organization "in defense of free speech",[38] Ginsberg said: "Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance ... I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too—everybody does, who has a little humanity".[39] He appeared in Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys, produced and directed by Adi Sideman, a documentary in which members of NAMBLA were interviewed and presented defenses of the organization.[40]

Pat Califia argued that politics played an important role in the gay community's rejection of NAMBLA.[41] Califia has since withdrawn much of his earlier support for the association, though still maintaining that discussing an issue does not constitute criminal activity.[42]

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#History

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24 minutes ago, jerra- said:

 

 

some one should do a check on republicans and see just whose ancestors were slave owners and fought for the south.

 

ouch!

Knock yourself out...

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4 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

I asked you first...

In the 148 yrs of the NRA,  nothing much is available about any members gunning down anyone...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#History

Thanks to the NRA, Crazy dangerous people have guns.  Countries with strict gun control laws don't have nearly as many Vegas Shooting. 

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34 minutes ago, ScottMon said:

Thanks to the NRA, Crazy dangerous people have guns.  Countries with strict gun control laws don't have nearly as many Vegas Shooting. 

sad you liberal asswipes don't respect the rule of law

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1 hour ago, ScottMon said:

Thanks to the NRA, Crazy dangerous people have guns.  Countries with strict gun control laws don't have nearly as many Vegas Shooting. 

Strict...you mean like you can't own one strict?...huh...

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