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5 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

Trumps’ racist history:

 

- His father’s role at a klan rally in the 20’s.

- Donald’s association w/ well known bigot and homophobe Roy Cohn. 

- 70’s housing discrimination against minorities.

- Kip Brown.

- During speaking engagements (rallies) in the late 80’s trump would bring up the poor economy, while ever so translucently pivot, and begin naming cities inhabited by majority minorities.

- Central Park 5.

- John O’Donnell book/Playboy interview.

- In the 90’s trump casino’s were fined upwards of $200 grand for transferring minority dealers and women from his high roller tables.

- In the early 00’ trump was fined and sued by a competitor for running rascist ads against a cherokee casino depicting them as criminals.

- In 2005,  trump openly pitched ‘white vs. black’ for a season of the apprentice.

- Created the Obama birtherism movement.

- Attacking black athletes:  Colin Kaepernick, Lebron James.  

- Attacking Don Lemon.

- Attacking Maxine Waters.

- Attacking April Ryan.

- Attacking Abby Phillip.

- Myeisha Johnson - Widow of dead soldier.

- Insulted the family of slain Goldstar soldier.

- Calling Mexicans murderers & rapists.

- Pocahontas.  

- Muslim ban.

- Questioned the ethics of a Mexican-American born judge.

- Charlottesville-  ‘good ppl on both sides’.

- Repeatedly fails to disassociate and condemn white suprmacists who support him.

- Liking and retweeting racist propoganda on social media.

- “Shit hole countries”.

- Caravan.
 

There are other byproducts that aren’t objectively racist but contribute to the marginalization of minorities: 

 

- trump is anti mail-in voting.  
- Anti BLM movement.  

 

You're reaching ...

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2 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

any  real  true  patriotic American  is  against  both

trump has voted by mail.  As have many Americans.  Republicans & Democrats.

 

Your hope is to reflect trump/republicans fears that when the masses vote, its not for republicans.  

 

I also reject your contention.  

2 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:


 

 

 

 

 

 

yet,  he is one of  our greatest  president   ever.

 

how did that  happen?   

 

also, why can't   you ever  back up your ridiculous claims  here?

 

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On 7/4/2020 at 12:16 PM, BeAChooser said:

 

You forget to link that to it's source, GED.   The Washington Post.  And good with that.  LOL!

He also for the subtitle, "Te left is doing President Trump a favor...

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2 minutes ago, jrock2310 said:

You’re swallowing...

That's all you got? Piss-off...

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4 minutes ago, ROG62 said:

That's all you got? Piss-off...

Come w/ factual counterpoints or take your own advise.

 

Later, Roger

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6 minutes ago, jrock2310 said:

trump has voted by mail.  As have many Americans.  Republicans & Democrats.

 

Your hope is to reflect trump/republicans fears that when the masses vote, its not for republicans.  

 

I also reject your contention.  

 

There's a difference dipschit...people voting by mail have to 'request' a ballot...

your libtawded party wants to mass mail ballots to rosters that most times well over the number of active voters in hopes a party member can go into neighborhoods and collect them...opening up to fraud on a mass scale...

 

you get the difference now McFly? McFly?

 

 

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1 minute ago, jrock2310 said:

Come w/ factual counterpoints or take your own advise.

 

Later, Roger

Most of your assertions are factual...only snowflakes like you call them (subjectively) racist or bigoted...

FWIW, the left's use of these are so flucking overused, they don't mean schit to anyone but the dipschits using them...

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1 hour ago, Str8tEdge said:

It SHOULD. SOME MORON on the left leaked it in a vain attempt to attack Trump. 

Why, do you think everyone believes Grifty actually DOES read his FUCKING DUMBED DOWN ONE PAGE DIB?

 

1 hour ago, Str8tEdge said:

You MORONS BROKE the LAW to attack Trump and meanwhile made it exceedingly more difficult to verify the intelligence, DUMBASS.

who broke what law, hysterical twat?

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1 hour ago, ROG62 said:

There's a difference dipschit...people voting by mail have to 'request' a ballot...

your libtawded party wants to mass mail ballots to rosters that most times well over the number of active voters in hopes a party member can go into neighborhoods and collect them...opening up to fraud on a mass scale...

 

you get the difference now McFly? McFly?

 

 

why does this only actually happen with Republican candidates?

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1 minute ago, IcebergSlim said:

why does this only actually happen with Republican candidates?

Please clarify...

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4 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

yet,  he is one of  our greatest  president   ever.

 

how did that  happen?   

He isn't.

 

 

You just asserted it...

 

 

No one believes it..

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8 minutes ago, IcebergSlim said:

Why, do you think everyone believes Grifty actually DOES read his FUCKING DUMBED DOWN ONE PAGE DIB?

 

who broke what law, hysterical twat?

Leaking is against the law DUMB FUCK,  especially unverified intelligence as it puts us at a national security risk by making verification even harder. 
 

You fucking traitors don't even care if the intelligence is true or verified. You only care about attacking Trump.

 

Another reason why you're a traitor. 

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Trumps career was based on blatant, criminal racism, and he has never changed. 

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57 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

Leaking is against the law DUMB FUCK,  especially unverified intelligence as it puts us at a national security risk by making verification even harder. 

Who is shoveling this crap into your funnel?

 

57 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

You fucking traitors don't even care if the intelligence is true or verified. You only care about attacking Trump.

 

Another reason why you're a traitor. 

 

Can't commit treason against an individual....

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37 minutes ago, IcebergSlim said:

Who is shoveling this crap into your funnel?

 

 

Can't commit treason against an individual....

Traitor has more than one meaning, dummy. Any new made up stories about Russia today? 

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4 hours ago, ROG62 said:

There's a difference dipschit...people voting by mail have to 'request' a ballot...

your libtawded party wants to mass mail ballots to rosters that most times well over the number of active voters in hopes a party member can go into neighborhoods and collect them...opening up to fraud on a mass scale...

 

you get the difference now McFly? McFly?

 

 

Of course you have to request a ballot, you choad.  How else would anyone know you need one?
 

That still does nothing to dispel your baseless fear of rampant voter fraud.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/article/mail-in-vote-fraud-ballot.amp.html
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/18/us/voter-fraud.amp.html

 

 

Trump, just like he did in 2016, is planting the seeds and you clowns just tend to his little gardens.  His claims over concerns of voter fraud are w/out merit.

 

In fact, the most recent/famous case of fraud came from NC republicans...

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/746800630/north-carolina-gop-operative-faces-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/us/mccrae-dowless-indictment.amp.html
 

In conclusion... trump’s fear mongering claim that mail-in ballots will lead to rampant voter fraud are baseless, & pure conjecture.

 

 

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4 hours ago, ROG62 said:

Most of your assertions are factual...only snowflakes like you call them (subjectively) racist or bigoted...

FWIW, the left's use of these are so flucking overused, they don't mean schit to anyone but the dipschits using them...

This is not rocket science, goober.  We take a historical inventory of trump, compile the information and discover objectivity.  Once or twice may be conducive to coincidence.  But the rap sheet trump has accumulated over his lifetime is not perfunctory ... its akin to a highlighter.  He’s been made.  
 

Like I said, someone like yourself could dispute that burning a cross isn’t necessarily a racist act.  When the entire rational world understands the symbolism of the act.  Likewise, when trumps history suggests an unfavorable opinion of minorities — and it’s reciprocated by the majority of that community. You got yourself a pegged bigot.  
 

Again, I understand your need to defend him.  Bcus you understand that by association, it reflects on you.  
 

You could do yourself the honor of admitting his outright bigotry and rebuking him for that, whilst remaining a political fan of his.

 

This seems like a deal that was made w/ the devil.  There can be no admonishment of him.  It’s either all in or all out.  No middle ground, no fence riding.  Trump has placed his supporters in the unenvious position of his loyalty experimentations, at the cost of their moral & ethical dignity. 

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5 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

trump has voted by mail.

 

 

Voting by mail and voting by absentee ballot are different.   Do you dispute?

 

 

5 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

also reject your contention.  

 

yet provide no dialogue of rejection

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4 hours ago, IcebergSlim said:

He isn't.

 

 

You just asserted it...

 

 

No one believes it..

 

 

Lots of people know it.   4 years of lies by the left.

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6 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

Jesus F Christ... could you ham any harder for a guy w/ this many contemptible actions & words over the years?

 

It is a question of principle.  Go watch "The People vs. Larry Flynt" sometime.  You don't have to agree with what someone is doing, or like them as a person, in order for defending that person's legal rights to be important to preserving your own.  The same is true with regard to what might be called "social rights", like not being spuriously accused of contemptible personal qualities.

 

6 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

You also seem to be of the opinion that racism/bigotry is defined by some form of objectivity.  That racism/bigotry can only be spotted or adopted if you loosely throw around the N word, join the klan, hang black people, or burn crosses on lawns.

 

Pretty much yeah.  If someone is not doing things of this order, then it is unacceptable to assume that the person holds a hatred of all blacks simply because they're black.  To judge a group of people, harshly, on the basis of their actions is not bigotry.  It might be an uncharitable interpretation, but nobody is owed such charity, particularly not if they go out of their way to act in such a way that nobody likes them or is inclined to defend them.

 

6 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

Trumps patterns indicates clear bigotry that would certainly characterize him as a racist/bigot.  It’s not even up for debate honestly.  Championing for trump as this stage is a fools errand.  

 

Perhaps so.  I'm a big fan of Jude the Apostle, patron saint of lost causes.  The less popular a cause is, the fewer other people are willing to advocate for it, the more I feel compelled to do so.  If that makes me a fool, then I'll wear the motley with pride.

 

6 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

His supporters feel the need to defend him, even if they themselves aren’t bigoted.  They’re afraid of the implicit associate bias that comes when one attaches their name (vote) to a deplorable human being.

 

You continue to assert that he's "deplorable" with no evidence.  I do consider him sleazy and contemptible, but I think there's a difference of degree between those things.  He might be the bastard love child of George Soros and Kim Kardashian, with the former's capitalist ruthless and the latter's unbridled narcissism - but that doesn't make him a monster.  Whenever any person is dehumanized, even for the ostensible crime of dehumanizing others, we are ALL diminished.  Trump is worse than most of us, but he is not inherently different FROM us.  Throwing him under the bus is doing the same for ourselves.  He's the president we deserve, and I'll support another president when we are actually capable of electing someone who deserves the job.  (Given that Sanders is likely to die before 2024, I don't much like our chances of finding a candidate I actually approve of anytime soon.)

 

6 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

For you to quite literally defend everything trump is to be credible on nothing trump.  To try and objectively espouse everything trump as ‘winning’ or ‘great’ is to be purposefully duplicitous & misleading for the sole purpose of propping him up, &/or protecting your investment (vote) in him.

 

I did not vote for Trump before, and I don't particularly want to vote for him this year.  If anything I'd rather throw my vote at Vermin Supreme (speaking of "the one we deserve").  But the important thing is defeating Biden.  If it's absolutely necessary, I'll contribute my droplet to Trump's ocean in order to make sure Mr. "mandatory face masks for everyone" doesn't get in.

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5 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

Trump has placed his supporters in the unenvious position of his loyalty experimentations, at the cost of their moral & ethical dignity. 

 

 

This is why you don’t get it.    I don’t  need to defend Trump.   I merely ask you what he has done  that is so bad and you can’t even name a single thing... ever.

 

 

you make up shit like he is racist or bigoted, yet can’t defend it or back it up.   I don’t support Trump for any other reaso than he defends America and what America is all about while you and yours want to tear it down, break it, and give it away, all to give power to group of people who use you like the useful idiots you are.  

 

 

3 hours ago, willpell said:

us.  Throwing him under the bus is doing the same for ourselves.  He's the president we deserve,

 

We do deserve him.   America deserves Trump.  In your lifetime, has there been a president who inspires love of country like Trump does?

 

obama clearly  hated America and what America stood for, Hillary saw America as a place that was here to make her rich and powerful, Trump just wants to make America a place where Americans live is peace, prosperity and pride.   He doesn’t care what color you are, and neither do I... only that you love America.   You deseerve to keep as much as you can of your esrned income and do whatever you want.

 

that is what Trump stands for, and anyone who has a problem with that needs their head examined. 

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I don't particularly think we ought to "love" our country, that's a bit much.  We should be thankful for what's good about it, and critical of its failings.  The one thing we agree about on this topic is that Hilary's naked mercenarism is contemptible.

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6 hours ago, jrock2310 said:

This is not rocket science, goober.  We take a historical inventory of trump, compile the information and discover objectivity.  Once or twice may be conducive to coincidence.  But the rap sheet trump has accumulated over his lifetime is not perfunctory ... its akin to a highlighter.  He’s been made.  
 

Like I said, someone like yourself could dispute that burning a cross isn’t necessarily a racist act.  When the entire rational world understands the symbolism of the act.  Likewise, when trumps history suggests an unfavorable opinion of minorities — and it’s reciprocated by the majority of that community. You got yourself a pegged bigot.  
 

Again, I understand your need to defend him.  Bcus you understand that by association, it reflects on you.  
 

You could do yourself the honor of admitting his outright bigotry and rebuking him for that, whilst remaining a political fan of his.

 

This seems like a deal that was made w/ the devil.  There can be no admonishment of him.  It’s either all in or all out.  No middle ground, no fence riding.  Trump has placed his supporters in the unenvious position of his loyalty experimentations, at the cost of their moral & ethical dignity. 

I'll be the first to tell anyone, he has the personality of a brick...as proven on this forum, most narcissists do. I tell the wife he's an asshole all the time...he's a typical New Yawker...coupled with having tons of money...


However, I do like his policies on the economy, immigration, trade, foreign and now, domestic affairs...He is getting lots of stuff done despite of being opposed at every turn, critiqued on every fucking thing known to man...

 

You keep crying wolf about his divisiveness, but when MSM reports 99.99999% negativity against the President and his administration, that's what's DIVISIVE, but you sheep are too blind to see thru that because you keep your sippy cup full of the kool-aid...

 

 

 

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