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1 minute ago, Redoctober said:

Do you understand what rewriting history is? Of course you do. You guys do it all the time. 

History is by definition a recounting of what happened. It could take three months to describe what has happened of interest around the world on just this day. So all histories are biased in that they leave out many details.

Histories of the Civil War started to be written after the last shot was fired. They were nearly all biased towards the Victorious Union and the poor oppressed Lost Cause that was the Confederacy.

As years went by, less biased accounts were written. The best I have seen is the Ken Burns series on the Civil War I have not read any books written in the past 10 years.

Are you claiming that all history is best when first written about, and that no one else should ever try to write a better account?

Is that what you're trying to say buddy? Really?

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8 minutes ago, maineman said:

From all that I have read, white nationalism and white extremism are on the rise in America, and not on the decline as some on here would have us believe.

How do you count white nationalists to make a quantitative statement that white nationalism is on the rise?  Is it on the rise as a percentage of the population, on the rise as just a raw increase in numbers, on the rise because the method of identifying who is or is not a white nationalist has changed.  Is their a white nationalist member ship club with an increasing number of members?

 

You might actually be correct, but you might not be correct, and in truth I don't truly care that much.  A man stands before me and I will observe his words and actions and make my own judgement as to his character.

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5 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

History is by definition a recounting of what happened. It could take three months to describe what has happened of interest around the world on just this day. So all histories are biased in that they leave out many details.

Histories of the Civil War started to be written after the last shot was fired. They were nearly all biased towards the Victorious Union and the poor oppressed Lost Cause that was the Confederacy.

As years went by, less biased accounts were written. The best I have seen is the Ken Burns series on the Civil War I have not read any books written in the past 10 years.

Are you claiming that all history is best when first written about, and that no one else should ever try to write a better account?

Is that what you're trying to say buddy? Really?

The left LOVES to rewrite history for their own purpose of controlling people

 

2+2=5

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1 hour ago, XavierOnassis said:

Ayn Rand did not love Jesus. She did not believe in The Father, the Son of the Holy Ghost. She was a godless Jewish atheist.

Not only that...

Ayn Rand was far less trusting of capitalism that I. She only invested in a money market firm after Alan Greenspan told her she was foolish to keep her money in a passbook account like the elderly Jewish woman she was.

 

You little rotten bastard.

I know those facts are true.

But why do you have to piss on every cowboy boot in town ???

 

You get-off.............trying to put other people down .   Why ??

You miserable little rat !!

 

Jesus loves Any Rand. 

 "That is my story.........and I am sticking with it" !!                                     😎

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13 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

History is by definition a recounting of what happened. It could take three months to describe what has happened of interest around the world on just this day. So all histories are biased in that they leave out many details.

Histories of the Civil War started to be written after the last shot was fired. They were nearly all biased towards the Victorious Union and the poor oppressed Lost Cause that was the Confederacy.

As years went by, less biased accounts were written. The best I have seen is the Ken Burns series on the Civil War I have not read any books written in the past 10 years.

Are you claiming that all history is best when first written about, and that no one else should ever try to write a better account?

Is that what you're trying to say buddy? Really?

Incompleteness is not the same as bias.  I reject your assertion that all histories are biased just because of incompleteness.

 

All writings are necessarily incomplete, not just histories.

 

Do you assert that everything CNN or MSNBC reports is biased because it is incomplete?  How about Das Kapital

 

Your are not a very proficient logician.

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1 hour ago, RHanson said:

Taipan did not assert that Ayn Rand loved Jesus, rather that Jesus loved Ayn.

 

Note how Xavier constantly assigned people to groups, she was an atheist, she was a Jew, she was a woman, she was elderly, all true and all of no significant consequence.  However, this allows Xavier to dismiss her instead of dealing with her as an individual with views and passions and arguments.

 

What Xavier is doing serves as an excellent example of how bigotry arises, this is the very birth of bigotry and hatred.  Watch and you will see him do exactly this over and over again to members on this forum who do not share his views.

+100.

Damn, cowboy.

If you not a lawyer.......then you should be !!

 

Debate-wise??

That is how to........."tear the meat off of the bone".

 

Well done, Sir.                                                         🥃

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3 hours ago, maineman said:

From all that I have read, white nationalism and white extremism are on the rise in America, and not on the decline as some on here would have us believe.

Who has made that claim maineliar? Quote the posts.

 

You said that the KKK was still growing and concentrated in the South, and you were shown to be completely wrong on both accounts.

 

Now you come on here lying about what was said, trying desperately to save face.

 

Fuckin' stooge!

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19 hours ago, maineman said:

the Klan may very well have gone "underground" and stopped public demonstrations, but they certainly haven't all evaporated or moved north, or had religious conversions... they're all still there in the south... and they're all still indoctrinating their children in the south... and NONE of them are voting for democrats ever since the democrats had the audacity to nominate a NEGRO to be president.  Lee Atwater made it very clear in the months before cancer dragged him to hell, that Nixon did indeed have a southern strategy and it was designed to gain the favor of racist whites in the south and to forsake the blacks who had been slipping away from the GOP since the days of FDR.   They've been riding it ever since.  The clown just stepped out from behind the curtain and waved the racist flag for all to see.

 

Right now, COWARD, you should be more concerned about the Weather Underground members who stopped public demonstrations, infiltrated themselves into the education system, and only now have returned to public demonstrations/riots/terrorism leading an army of thoroughly indoctrinated youth waving communist flags.

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3 hours ago, XavierOnassis said:

No one has made Communism work either, but with help from Capitalism, the Chinese do have a plan and are trying. I am not fond of it at all.

 

There he goes again, defending the Communist Chinese.   Can't help himself.

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5 hours ago, XavierOnassis said:

I recall a huge increase in the number of homeless people living outdoors and in their cars.

I recall the collapse of the Saving and Loan Banks.

I recall Reagan blaming Carter fore inflation when  EVERY ECONOMIST knew that a 2-3% increase in inflation was deliberately caused by the Feds as policy to avoid a depression.

Since Reagan, the actual wages of the average middle class family has been static. Poor people are worse off. The rich have received all the benefits.

As I said Reagan was a really great ACTOR. he fooled most of the people most of the time. But he was simply reading a script written by him by the Oligarchy.

  You seem to forget the "misery index" that was in double digits when Reagan was elected. It was Reagan that that brought the economy, that was in worse condition than when "H" was elected. back from the edge of the cliff of a depression........................................... IN 2 YEARS!!!

  Reagan doubled the dollars that were going into the federal coffers with his tax-cuts.

  Reagan brought the unemployment down drastically with his tax-cuts.

  Reagan said "America's best days are ahead of us" and Reagan was right, UNTIL we started electing liberal Presidents.

  NOW Trump is "MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" with his policies and his tax-cuts.

  Thinking people know that you libs-commies just want to tear America down with you dis-proven socialist/communist bullshit.  Everyone with two braincells KNOWS that that bullshit don't work. IF you like socialism/communism THAT much, Go live in Cuba or China for a while.                                      :) 

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3 hours ago, RHanson said:

Do you assert that everything CNN or MSNBC reports is biased because it is incomplete?  How about Das Kapital

I rarely watch either, I prefer PBS and BBC America. All history suffers from incompleteness. deciding what to include and what to omit is one type of bias, but not the only one.

 

Your are not a very proficient logician.

I did not say that I was goinf to explain ALL bias, did I?

 

f you do not include Fox "News" with CNN and MSNBC, as biased, then neither are you. All the commercial stations have too many ads, too many promos and too many opinions. Hannity and the mean blonde girls are not news reporters at all.

 

Das Kapital was pretty accurate regarding the time period when it was written. It was, of course, intended to win over people to a society in which the workers would manage the factories in which they worked. It was intended to be biased.

 

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