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Just now, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

surely you work with medical professionals  who are  liberals,  but  my guess is that they are the  minority.  the  medical  field is a  reality  based profession

I work with social workers who are liberal and nurses who are not. Pretty much 50/50. 

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6 minutes ago, Str8tEdge said:

I work with social workers who are liberal and nurses who are not. Pretty much 50/50. 

 

being a nurse   is  incompatible with  progressive liberalism 

 

 

social workers are odd but essential people 

 

 

how about  docs...    90% conservative where you are?

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3 hours ago, Str8tEdge said:

I knew who he was referring to and quoted him. 😆

 

He’s still demanding action on unverified intelligence. Maybe they don’t understand what unverified means. 

This is similar the Saddam has Nukes and Germ warfare hoax.  The Intel in that case said that there was no evidence that Saddam had working nuclear or biological weapons. Cheney, Rummy and Juniorbush said they did. So there was an unnecessary invasion based on lies.

 

In this case, the intel seems to be verifying that it is true. The Taliban does like money, or what can be bought with money, so they can be bribed to do whatever Putin wants them to. Trump says "I forbid you to verify this!", and since he is in charge, they just say, "yaassir, boss, whatever you say". And the Talibanis continue to take potshots at our trips. Why should Trump care?  They are poor Whites, Black and Latinos, they knew the job was dangerous when the took it." Trump does not give a sh!it about anyone he sees as farther down the social caste ladder as he is. And our troops, well, they are at the bottom. Suckers and saps, children of sharecroppers and immigrants from "shithole countries". No Norwegians at all.

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The intelligence estimate that located bin laden was an estimate with 50% confidence and we acted. The intel on the bounties appeared in the pdb and the security council held a meeting about it. Idiots

The briefer in her statement did not say she didn't brief it because it was unverified. She said she didn't brief it because Trump was not interested.

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8 hours ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

being a nurse   is  incompatible with  progressive liberalism 

 

 

social workers are odd but essential people 

 

 

how about  docs...    90% conservative where you are?

I'd say yes, ER docs. Our main principle in nursing is promoting autonomy so programs that make people dependent and weak on the state actually go against nurses core beliefs. That doesn't mean the lower end of nurses who struggled to pass the n-clex due to poor critical thinking skills aren't easily indoctrinated. 

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Speaking of being easily indoctrinated you swallow the Trump administration b******* Hook line & sinker. Trump insistson investigating the leak at the same time he says the whole thing is a hoax. That doesn't create any cognitive dissonance for you?

The business about the Intelligence being inconclusive is a fake objection. Intelligence is rarely if ever conclusive.the indications in this case were strong enough that it appeared in the president's daily brief which Trump apparently did not read.

The security council held a meeting to discuss it. Apparently Trump is unaware of the topics the security council discusses. At least that is his claim though the claim is very thin.

Trump is a liar a poltroon and a traitor.

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7 hours ago, XavierOnassis said:

This is similar the Saddam has Nukes and Germ warfare hoax.  The Intel in that case said that there was no evidence that Saddam had working nuclear or biological weapons. Cheney, Rummy and Juniorbush said they did. So there was an unnecessary invasion based on lies.

 

In this case, the intel seems to be verifying that it is true. The Taliban does like money, or what can be bought with money, so they can be bribed to do whatever Putin wants them to. Trump says "I forbid you to verify this!", and since he is in charge, they just say, "yaassir, boss, whatever you say". And the Talibanis continue to take potshots at our trips. Why should Trump care?  They are poor Whites, Black and Latinos, they knew the job was dangerous when the took it." Trump does not give a sh!it about anyone he sees as farther down the social caste ladder as he is. And our troops, well, they are at the bottom. Suckers and saps, children of sharecroppers and immigrants from "shithole countries". No Norwegians at all.

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So you explained WHY we should never act on unverified intelligence than crushed your own argument. 

 

Trump DOES CARE about the troops which is why he's doing what Obama couldn't after 8 years. 

 

You also of course didn't realize this story broke at the same time Trump announced he was pulling out of Afghanistan. 

 

Maybe you should ask yourself why that is? 

 

2. Even IF it were true, what would you expect Trump to do? I mean considering we've aided and abetted proxy wars all over the world for OUR countries gain. 

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On 6/27/2020 at 12:14 PM, IkeBana said:

1.  Did absolutely nothing about it.

 

Trump is doing plenty about Russia.

 

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Russia secretly offered Afghan militants bounties to kill US troops intelligence says

 

Sounds like sumpin our enemy would do.

 

0:13-0:18...

 

 

You were saying?

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29 minutes ago, slideman said:

Your made up story is shit. You bought another fucking lie and propagated here. 

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/07/07/top-us-general-in-the-middle-east-skeptical-that-russian-bounties-led-to-troops-deaths/

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Top US general in the Middle East skeptical that Russian bounties led to troops’ deaths

 
4FN7ACZY6ZEILNUIB6HLYFJBN4.jpg Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, center, the top U.S. commander for the Middle East, makes an unannounced visit Jan. 31, 2020 in Kabul, Afghanistan. (Lolita Baldor/AP) 

WASHINGTON — The top U.S. general for the Middle East said Tuesday that the intelligence suggesting that Russia may have paid Taliban militants to kill American troops in Afghanistan was worrisome, but he is not convinced that any bounties resulted in U.S. military deaths. 

 

Gen. Frank McKenzie, the head of U.S. Central Command said in a telephone interview with a small group of reporters that the U.S. did not increase force protection measures in Afghanistan as a result of the information, although he asked his intelligence staff to dig into the matter more. 

“I found it very worrisome. I didn’t find that there was a causative link there,” said McKenzie, who is the first Pentagon official to speak publicly at length about the issue. He warned, however, that Russia has long been a threat in Afghanistan, where there have been many reports that it has backed Taliban fighters over the years with resources and weapons. 

According to U.S. intelligence officials, information that Russia offered bounties to Taliban militants for killing American troops was included in an intelligence brief for President Donald Trump in late February. The White House, however, has denied Trump was briefed at that time, arguing that the intelligence was not credible enough to bring to his attention. 

President Donald Trump participates in a meeting of the American Workforce Policy Advisory Board in the East Room of the White House on June 26, 2020, in Washington. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
Trump calls reports of Russian bounties on US troops a ‘hoax'

The president criticized the media for reporting allegations that Russian officials paid Taliban units to target American forces.

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McKenzie said that while he could draw no direct link between any potential payments and U.S. casualties, it’s common that intelligence is not definitive. 

 

“We should always remember, the Russians are not our friends,” said McKenzie, who is traveling in the Middle East. “They are not our friends in Afghanistan. And they do not wish us well, and we just need to remember that at all times when we evaluate that intelligence.” 

He said there was no need to beef up security for troops there because the U.S. already takes “extreme force protections measures” in Afghanistan. “Whether the Russians are paying the Taliban or not, over the past several years, the Taliban have done their level best to carry out operations against us.” 

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Withdrawing from Syria will “ultimately be a political decision,” while Afghanistan drawdown timeline depends on how Taliban act in coming months.

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Just days after the February intelligence briefing, the U.S. signed an agreement with the Taliban, mapping out the withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan by May 2021. That date would be nearly 20 years after American forces invaded the country after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S. by al-Qaida militants. 

Trump had repeatedly said he wants to have all U.S. forces out of Afghanistan. His call in May for a quick exit, fueled speculation that he wants troops out by the November election, as part of his vow to end U.S. involvement in what he calls “endless wars. 

 

The U.S. pulled several thousand troops out this year, and now has about 8,600 there. Additional troop withdrawal is contingent on the Taliban’s commitment that extremist groups, such as al-Qaida and the Islamic State group, not be able to use the country as a base to carry out attacks on the U.S.

 

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Trump had repeatedly said he wants to have all U.S. forces out of Afghanistan. His call in May for a quick exit, fueled speculation that he wants troops out by the November election, as part of his vow to end U.S. involvement in what he calls “endless wars. 

And there you have the real reason the establishment hates Trump and finds simple minded parrots like  @slideman, @maineman and @IcebergSlim to propagate their lies for them. 

 

How's it feel to know Trump is MORE anti-war than your black guy you elected? 🤣

 

Or does the left no longer give a shit about being neocons? 

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56 minutes ago, Duck615 said:

Still waiting for any liberal asswipe to prove the Russia bounty thing...

 

You do understand ducky, that Trump is into the Russian oligarchs for hundreds of millions of dollars, possible billions after they bailed him out on his four bankruptcies.  Even the hundreds of millions Deutschebank loaned him in his late 1990's billion dollar bankruptcy found the paper being bought by a combine of Russian oligarchs.  He has at least $479,000,000 coming due shortly after the first of the year.  So he's not gonna do anything to cross these guys, including making the Russian bounty an issue, when they have him over a barrel.  And then there's the prosecutions for fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, and all sorts of other malfeasance that the DOJ will never go after him for while he's president.  So on January 20, 2021, when he's not president anymore, the one place he knows he can go where the new DOJ and various State Attorney's General can, and will go after him is....RUSSIA!!!

 

It's gonna be fun when he flees the country for Moscow and the only room he can get for being Putin's fat-cellulite-ridden-ass rentboi for the past four years is right down the hall from Ed Snowden's apartment.

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31 minutes ago, IkeBana said:

 

You do understand ducky, that Trump is into the Russian oligarchs for hundreds of millions of dollars, possible billions after they bailed him out on his four bankruptcies.  Even the hundreds of millions Deutschebank loaned him in his late 1990's billion dollar bankruptcy found the paper being bought by a combine of Russian oligarchs.  He has at least $479,000,000 coming due shortly after the first of the year.  So he's not gonna do anything to cross these guys, including making the Russian bounty an issue, when they have him over a barrel.  And then there's the prosecutions for fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, and all sorts of other malfeasance that the DOJ will never go after him for while he's president.  So on January 20, 2021, when he's not president anymore, the one place he knows he can go where the new DOJ and various State Attorney's General can, and will go after him is....RUSSIA!!!

 

It's gonna be fun when he flees the country for Moscow and the only room he can get for being Putin's fat-cellulite-ridden-ass rentboi for the past four years is right down the hall from Ed Snowden's apartment.

Your fake story has been debunked by REAL sources. Give it up already. You got punched, AGAIN. 

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58 minutes ago, IkeBana said:

 

You do understand ducky, that Trump is into the Russian oligarchs for hundreds of millions of dollars, possible billions after they bailed him out on his four bankruptcies.  Even the hundreds of millions Deutschebank loaned him in his late 1990's billion dollar bankruptcy found the paper being bought by a combine of Russian oligarchs.  He has at least $479,000,000 coming due shortly after the first of the year.  So he's not gonna do anything to cross these guys, including making the Russian bounty an issue, when they have him over a barrel.  And then there's the prosecutions for fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, and all sorts of other malfeasance that the DOJ will never go after him for while he's president.  So on January 20, 2021, when he's not president anymore, the one place he knows he can go where the new DOJ and various State Attorney's General can, and will go after him is....RUSSIA!!!

 

It's gonna be fun when he flees the country for Moscow and the only room he can get for being Putin's fat-cellulite-ridden-ass rentboi for the past four years is right down the hall from Ed Snowden's apartment.

yet you can't prove it fucknut

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10 hours ago, slideman said:

Speaking of being easily indoctrinated you swallow the Trump administration b******* Hook line and MUELLER

 

 

Do you realize your track track record here is 0%?

 

not many people here are as committed as you have been to being wrong.  

 

Meuller will present his evidence, Trump will resign

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On 7/9/2020 at 2:43 AM, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

Do you realize your track track record here is 0%?

 

not many people here are as committed as you have been to being wrong.  

 

Meuller will present his evidence, Trump will resign

Mueller turned out to be a weakling maybe he was too old. Then barr distorted his work for a month before the report was released. Now it's turning out that barr redacted passages that were damaging to the president. It's not over yet.

The Flynn case is still ongoing.

Where else have I been wrong?

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/politics/esper-briefed-russian-payments-to-taliban/index.html

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On 6/27/2020 at 11:14 AM, IkeBana said:

Trump was briefed on this months ago by the intelligence community and:

1.  Did absolutely nothing about it.

2.  Concealed it from the American people.

3.  Confirmed that he is a traitor.

 

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says

Do you have proof???

 

or are you just listening to the dem leadership that has lied about collusion, obstruction, Kavanaugh harassment, impeachment, and recently we have found out there is no evidence that the dem server was ever hack by the russians??? or perhaps you intell is from a newspaper that has been wrong for over 4 years on almost every thing.

 

After you are thru complaining about nothing ... what exactly do you want him to do??? Do you have a solution or just like to bitch???

 

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9 minutes ago, neilcar said:

Do you have proof???

 

or are you just listening to the dem leadership that has lied about collusion, obstruction, Kavanaugh harassment, impeachment, and recently we have found out there is no evidence that the dem server was ever hack by the russians??? or perhaps you intell is from a newspaper that has been wrong for over 4 years on almost every thing.

 

After you are thru complaining about nothing ... what exactly do you want him to do??? Do you have a solution or just like to bitch???

 

You are distorting the results stated in the Mueller report. Mueller did not say there was no collusion. He said he was not going to address that question. Instead he address the question of whether the administration's actions Rose to the crime of conspiracy. He said no.he also said he could not exonerate Trump for obstructing justice. he found that the Russians hacked and released the information to WikiLeaks and that Trump's campaign welcomed those actions. You perpetrate barr's lies about the Mueller report.

https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/

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