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Coronavirus patients who took hydroxychloroquine had higher risk of death, study shows

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/05/22/covid-19-study-links-hydroxychloroquine-higher-risk-death/5244664002/

 

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A new study shows coronavirus patients who took hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 had a higher risk of death than those who weren't given the drug. 
 

The study, published Friday in the medical journal The Lancet, also found that COVID-19 patients were more likely to develop arrhythmia if treated with hydroxychloroquine, or its closely related cousin chloroquine.  

 

Arrhythmia can lead to a sudden cardiac death, the report said, but researchers did not associate the study’s fatalities with adverse cardiac affects.

 

Even though it’s only an observational study – not the gold standard double blind, randomized, controlled trials – experts say the enormous sample size makes it compelling.

 


also see: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext#seccestitle10

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Not only can these anti-malaria drugs lead to death, there is no evidence that they are an effective treatment or preventative measure. 
 

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We were unable to confirm a benefit of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, when used alone or with a macrolide, on in-hospital outcomes for COVID-19. Each of these drug regimens was associated with decreased in-hospital survival and an increased frequency of ventricular arrhythmias when used for treatment of COVID-19.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext#seccestitle10

 

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6 minutes ago, BatteryPowered said:

Anything can kill you.  This drug has only been in use for 65 years.

 


Sure but in this case the dats suggests that the treatment reduces survivability. In other words, the president is pushing his followers to seek a potentially deadly treatment that appears to lesson their chances of recovery. Ill advised, to say the least. 

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I am very disappointed in this drug now.

 

Not because it can kill you, it can, but because it didn't kill him.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Olivaw said:

 

It for decades has been one of the safest drugs given.


Safer than aspirin.

 

Given for decades  in very high dosages to Lupus sufferers with zero deaths and minimal side effects.

 

But hate-Trump Disinformation comes from everywhere, as those who spread it destroy their own reputations.

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11 minutes ago, Olivaw said:


Sure but in this case the dats suggests that the treatment reduces survivability. In other words, the president is pushing his followers to seek a potentially deadly treatment that appears to lesson their chances of recovery. Ill advised, to say the least. 

 

Amazing what moonbats will believe.

 

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Amy Klobuchar Admits Miracle Drug Hydroxychloroquine Saved Her Husband’s Life (VIDEO)
By Jim Hoft
Ever since President Trump praised the miracle drug hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of the China Coronavirus the media has been on a jihad against the drug.

The liberal mainstream media would rather lie about the drug and see people die than give President Trump a ‘win’ for promoting it.


That is not a stretch. That is what is happening every day on CNN, MSNBC and the liberal rags and websites.

 

This is despite the drug in combination with antibiotics being the choice of doctors around the world for treating the disease.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/finally-amy-klobuchar-admits-miracle-drug-hydroxychloroquine-saved-husbands-life-video/
 

 

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33 minutes ago, Olivaw said:

 

Even though it’s only an observational study – not the gold standard double blind, randomized, controlled trials – experts say the enormous sample size makes it compelling


Well, not sure how this is exactly news except a hit piece against Trump, but OK. 
 

Politics and the media in 2020. 

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27 minutes ago, Olivaw said:


Sure but in this case the dats suggests that the treatment reduces survivability. In other words, the president is pushing his followers to seek a potentially deadly treatment that appears to lesson their chances of recovery. Ill advised, to say the least. 

 

It doesn't matter what he says or pushes.  The drug can only be legally obtained with a doctor's prescription. 

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43 minutes ago, Olivaw said:

but researchers did not associate the study’s fatalities with adverse cardiac affects.

 

You seemed to have MISSED THIS PART, huh, SHITSTAIN!!!

 

Sucks for you, huh??

 

Pssssst. The VIRUS kills you, not the DRUG since it's been used for over 65 SAFE AND EFFECTIVE YEARS!!!

 

So it didn't work for everyone, but the VIRUS is what did them in.

 

See how you handlers SHOVE THAT SMOKE HOSE UP YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES AND THEN KEEP BLOWING THE LYING SMOKE UP YOUR ASS TO MAKE YOU JUMP AT PEOPLE DYING???

 

It's pretty simple that they WANT YOU TO HATE TRUMP and like good little lemmings, you SHITSTAINS ALL COMPLY!!!
 

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50 minutes ago, Olivaw said:

Trump’s miracle cure

 

Hilarious. You claim to want "honest respectful discussion" on issues where we can find "agreement" then you lie in your thread title.

 

When offered a chance at such discussion you shit on the person extending a hand.

 

You're a fraud.

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40 minutes ago, Olivaw said:

the president is pushing his followers to seek a potentially deadly treatment

 

Another outright fucking lie. What is your problem??

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38 minutes ago, Pengwin said:

I am very disappointed in this drug now.

 

Not because it can kill you, it can, but because it didn't kill him.

 

 

 

I know.  I wish Trump would take some more....and then yet MORE.... 

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25 minutes ago, RichClem said:

But hate-Trump Disinformation comes from everywhere, as those who spread it destroy their own reputations.

 

15 minutes ago, neue regel said:

Well, not sure how this is exactly news except a hit piece against Trump, but OK. 


It’s not about hating Trump ... or hit pieces ... or what somebody once said ... or politics. It’s about going where the science takes us. The science says that these drugs reduce survivability. Perhaps more scientific evidence will be revealed at some future date, perhaps not. Either way, the science right now suggests that the risk of these drugs is real and the benefit to COVID-19 patients Is nonexistent.
 

 

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6 minutes ago, king of the county said:

So can taking a shower or driving a car or eating steak 

Let’s follow your logic. Get COVID-19, take arsenic, die, problem solved. After all, you might fall in the shower and die anyway. 

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1 minute ago, Olivaw said:

 


It’s not about hating Trump ... or hit pieces ... or what somebody once said ... or politics. It’s about going where the science takes us. The science says that these drugs reduce survivability. Perhaps more scientific evidence will be revealed at some future date, perhaps not. Either way, the science right now suggests that the risk of these drugs is real and the benefit to COVID-19 patients Is nonexistent.
 

 

 

The actual science is that HQ is one of the safest drugs available.


The actual science is that some studies done by reputable doctors have been done strongly indicating that it's effective mixed with an antibiotic and zinc.

 

The actual science is that you take what is promising if there's nothing else available.

 

The fact is that hate-Trump groups will lie, distort and dissemble about this treatment, even if it costs Americans their lives.

 

How fucking despicable is that?

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1 minute ago, RichClem said:

 

The actual science is that HQ is one of the safest drugs available.


The actual science is that some studies done by reputable doctors have been done strongly indicating that it's effective mixed with an antibiotic and zinc.

 

The actual science is that you take what is promising if there's nothing else available.

 

The fact is that hate-Trump groups will lie, distort and dissemble about this treatment, even if it costs Americans their lives.

 

How fucking despicable is that?


No, the actual science says that it can kill you. Read the paper. 

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50 minutes ago, Olivaw said:


Sure but in this case the dats suggests that the treatment reduces survivability. In other words, the president is pushing his followers to seek a potentially deadly treatment that appears to lesson their chances of recovery. Ill advised, to say the least. 

 

That's just stunningly fucking stupid.

 

And no, Fake News from CNN and other leftist sources doesn't mean a thing.

 

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Our nation's doctors have seen and heard enough to believe that hydroxychloroquine is a game changer in the fight against COVID-19. Katie reported on a new survey from Jackson & Coker that showed an overwhelming majority of doctors would prescribe hydroxychloroquine or another anti-malaria drug to a family member suffering from coronavirus. The survey questioned 1,271 doctors in 50 states.

 

"Sixty-five percent of physicians across the United States said they would prescribe the anti-malaria drugs chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine to treat or prevent COVID-19 in a family member," the survey read. "Only 11 percent said they would not use the drug at all."
https://www.debatepolitics.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fkatiepavlich%2F2020%2F04%2F09%2Fanother-study-shows-overwhelming-majority-of-doctors-would-prescribe-hydroxychloroquine-to-their-wuhan-coronavirus-patients-n2566585

 

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4 minutes ago, Olivaw said:

Exactly, why do you lie about what he said?

 

I didn't lie, you did:

 

1 hour ago, Olivaw said:

Trump’s miracle cure

 

 

53 minutes ago, Olivaw said:

the president is pushing his followers to seek a potentially deadly treatment

 

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1 minute ago, Olivaw said:


No, the actual science says that it can kill you. Read the paper. 

 

Fuck you and your Fake Science, Dim.

 

Laura Ingraham and many others have covered this, and you're full of crap.

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5 minutes ago, Olivaw said:

 


It’s not about hating Trump ... or hit pieces ... or what somebody once said ... or politics. It’s about going where the science takes us. The science says that these drugs reduce survivability. Perhaps more scientific evidence will be revealed at some future date, perhaps not. Either way, the science right now suggests that the risk of these drugs is real and the benefit to COVID-19 patients Is nonexistent.
 

 

 

Does it?  Be honest...can ANYONE say the people who died while taking the drug would not have died had they not taken the drug?  FYI...that answer is no.

 

It's like doing a study of people about automobile accidents and learning that 42% of people who died had blonde hair and 38% of people who died had brown hair....BREAKING NEWS...Having blonde hair reduces your chance of surviving an automobile accident.

 

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