Time To Pick Our Leaders

[bludog]

Kfools has made his declaration for the site, going forward.

 

Site owner, Kfools has declared that Liberal mods, are to supplant Conservative mods for control of these boards, except for the oversight authority of Conservative, kking.  It is now time for us to respond, and pick our leaders.

 

All factions of the Democratic Party should be represented.  All input from Liberals is welcome. 

[kfools]

King will be there only to settle mod disputes,and look in to make sure you aren't banning anybody for saying Maga. Other than that. It's your hand.

[zkyllonen8]

46 minutes ago, bludog said:

Kfools has made his declaration for the site, going forward.

 

Site owner, Kfools has declared that Liberal mods, are to supplant Conservative mods for control of these boards, except for the oversight authority of Conservative, kking.  It is now time for us to respond, and pick our leaders.

 

All factions of the Democratic Party should be represented.  All input from Liberals is welcome. 

 

My Input on the situation: 

 

1. We have a split of people from different factions of the party. 

      *For Example- A group of 8 consisting of fair ratios among there respective faction of the party. 

 

A Group might look something like this:  

 

Progressive Wing: Me, bludog, RR

 

Moderate/Liberal Wing: SpyCar, JM and Olivia 

 

Then we could have two swing votes in there.

 

This would allow for the most fair and equal set up as everyone would have a voice considering rule changes or ideas. 

 

It would work as a Democracy.

 

2. I think this should also work for mods as well. 

 

- I think that there should be 2 mods from each wing/faction of the party so that we have a wide array of ideals and morals so that we can represent the different members of this forum respectfully. 

 

Let me know what you guys think.

 

 

 

[SpyCar]

9 hours ago, zkyllonen8 said:

 

My Input on the situation: 

 

1. We have a split of people from different factions of the party. 

      *For Example- A group of 8 consisting of fair ratios among there respective faction of the party. 

 

A Group might look something like this:  

 

Progressive Wing: Me, bludog, RR

 

Moderate/Liberal Wing: SpyCar, JM and Olivia 

 

Then we could have two swing votes in there.

 

This would allow for the most fair and equal set up as everyone would have a voice considering rule changes or ideas. 

 

It would work as a Democracy.

 

2. I think this should also work for mods as well. 

 

- I think that there should be 2 mods from each wing/faction of the party so that we have a wide array of ideals and morals so that we can represent the different members of this forum respectfully. 

 

Let me know what you guys think.

 

 

 

 

I'd say that's a totally stacked deck that does not represent our party or liberalism as a political philosophy. Not close.

 

Bill

 

 

[bludog]

1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

I'd say that's a totally stacked deck that does not represent our party or liberalism as a political philosophy. Not close.

 

Bill

 

Please make suggestions for moderators that would represent  **our party or liberalism as a political philosophy**.

[bludog]

10 hours ago, zkyllonen8 said:

Moderate/Liberal Wing: SpyCar, JM and Olivia 

 

Who is JM?

[zkyllonen8]

6 minutes ago, bludog said:

 

Who is JM?

 

@JeanMoulin

[RollingRock]

9 minutes ago, bludog said:

 

Who is JM?

JeanMoulin, I believe.    

[zkyllonen8]

1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

 

I'd say that's a totally stacked deck that does not represent our party or liberalism as a political philosophy. Not close.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 I am just trying to help create a board that has a wide array of perspectives on various ideas. 

 

This or something similar would be the closest thing that we could arrange to have done to make things the fairest for all members. 

 

I am not trying to not include you or your ideals. 

 

I want to bring them to the table, just like all of the others members ideas. 

 

We need this forum to represent all values no matter which side of the aisle. 

 

So if liberals are running the show then we need to have people from all wings of the party. 

[bludog]

11 hours ago, zkyllonen8 said:

Progressive Wing: Me, bludog, RR

 

Moderate/Liberal Wing: SpyCar, JM and Olivia 

 

nuckin futz, on the Left

scout, on the Left

 

Mr Kelly, wing unknown

Pastafarian, wing unknown

XavierOnassis, wing unknown

Jerra, wing unknown

 

impartialobserver, possibly traditional Democrat

JeanMoulin, traditional.

 

I'm not finding too many traditional Democrats on this board.  Maybe @SpyCar could help?

 

 

 

[zkyllonen8]

26 minutes ago, bludog said:

 

nuckin futz, on the Left

scout, on the Left

 

Mr Kelly, wing unknown

Pastafarian, wing unknown

XavierOnassis, wing unknown

Jerra, wing unknown

 

impartialobserver, possibly traditional Democrat

JeanMoulin, traditional.

 

I'm not finding too many traditional Democrats on this board.  Maybe @SpyCar could help?

 

 

 

 

I am just saying if we did go with my plan then we could have 

3 Progressives/Democratic Socialists 

3 Liberal/Moderate

2 Swing Votes. 

 

In my mind that would make for the most fair way to govern the site. 

 

We need equal representation and I think this would be the best way to do so.

 

[bludog]

Just now, zkyllonen8 said:

I am just saying if we did go with my plan then we could have 

3 Progressives/Democratic Socialists 

3 Liberal/Moderate

2 Swing Votes. 

 

In my mind that would make for the most fair way to govern the site. 

 

We need equal representation and I think this would be the best way to do so.

 

I agree. 

 

When four names are settled on, PMs can be sent offering the moderator job.  If one or more of the first four turn it down, others can be asked, etc.

[zkyllonen8]

Just now, bludog said:

 

I agree. 

 

When four names are settled on, PMs can be sent offering the moderator job.  If one or more of the first four turn it down, others can be asked, etc.

 

Four names? 

 

Do we already have 4 others? 

 

I'm a bit confused. 

[bludog]

2 minutes ago, zkyllonen8 said:

Four names? 

 

Do we already have 4 others? 

 

I'm a bit confused. 

 

 

I'm going by what you said.

11 hours ago, zkyllonen8 said:

- I think that there should be 2 mods from each wing/faction of the party so that we have a wide array of ideals and morals so that we can represent the different members of this forum respectfully. 

 

I think any more than four moderators would be redundant.

 

I made a list of possible candidates for the job:

36 minutes ago, bludog said:

nuckin futz, on the Left

scout, on the Left

 

Mr Kelly, wing unknown

Pastafarian, wing unknown

XavierOnassis, wing unknown

Jerra, wing unknown

 

impartialobserver, possibly traditional Democrat

JeanMoulin, traditional.

 

I'm not finding too many traditional Democrats on this board.  Maybe @SpyCar could help?

 

 

[zkyllonen8]

Just now, bludog said:

 

 

I'm going by what you said.

 

I think any more than four moderators would be redundant.

 

I made a list of possible candidates for the job:

 

 

Oh ok, I got you now. 

 

I think that we should have me and you as the Progressive Mods. 

 

And @SpyCar and @JeanMoulin as the traditional liberal mods. 

 

I think this would be the most fair and accurate representation of all. 

 

Do you agree? Is there any other opposition to any of the ideas me and @bludog are talking about?? 

[SpyCar]

15 minutes ago, bludog said:

 

 

I'm going by what you said.

 

I think any more than four moderators would be redundant.

 

I made a list of possible candidates for the job:

 

 

There are very few liberal Democrats on this board. That's the crux of the problem.

 

JeanMoulin, Maineman, Benson13 (banned), and Calguy come to mind off the top of my head.

 

Bill

 

 

[zkyllonen8]

We might only have 4 mods but I think that there should be a board put into place of 10 people consisting of people from all over the spectrum.

 

This will allow for this board to vote on changes, bans, rules, etc, etc.... 

 

Then if there is a tie than with Limited Oversight kking could come in and make the deciding vote in either direction. 

 

Whole Heartily I think this would be the best approach moving forward. 

  

4- Progressive/Democratic Socialists 

4- Moderate/Traditional Liberal

2- Swing Votes

 

 

[zkyllonen8]

Just now, SpyCar said:

 

There are very few liberal Democrats on this board. That's the crux of the problem.

 

JeanMoulin, Maineman, Benson13 (banned), and Calguy come to mind off the top of my head.

 

Bill

 

 

Yes we understand this and we are trying to make your voice be heard. 

 

That is why we are proposing equal representation among mods/ board spots. 

 

Are you okay with the proposals that me and @bludog have been brainstorming? 

 

If not please voice your concerns. 

[bludog]

27 minutes ago, zkyllonen8 said:

 

Oh ok, I got you now. 

 

I think that we should have me and you as the Progressive Mods. 

 

And @SpyCar and @JeanMoulin as the traditional liberal mods. 

 

I think this would be the most fair and accurate representation of all. 

 

Do you agree? Is there any other opposition to any of the ideas me and @bludog are talking about?? 

 

From what he's said recently, JeanMoulin might turn down the offer.   @JeanMoulin :---  Will you accept a position a moderator?

 

@SpyCar:---  Would you accept a mod position?  And can you suggest a backup in case JeanMoulin turns it down?

[SpyCar]

10 minutes ago, zkyllonen8 said:

Yes we understand this and we are trying to make your voice be heard. 

 

That is why we are proposing equal representation among mods/ board spots. 

 

Are you okay with the proposals that me and @bludog have been brainstorming? 

 

If not please voice your concerns. 

 

I'm voicing my concerns. 

 

Bill

[bludog]

17 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

There are very few liberal Democrats on this board. That's the crux of the problem.

 

JeanMoulin, Maineman, Benson13 (banned), and Calguy come to mind off the top of my head.

 

Bill

 

Maineman sounds like a good prospect in case JeanMoulin turns down the moderator position.

 

Calguy has already said he's not interested, but he could always change his mind.

 

We can get Benson13 (and other banned Liberals) back.  Kfools has said as much.  But not until we become moderators, I'm guessing.

[SpyCar]

1 minute ago, bludog said:

 

From what he's said recently, JeanMoulin might turn down the offer.   @JeanMoulin :---  Will you accept a position a moderator?

 

@SpyCar:---  Would you accept a mod position?  And can you suggest a backup in case JeanMoulin turns it down?

 

First, I think this is another psych experiment that's being enjoyed by our host. 

 

Second, I have offered to help mod this room in an impartial fashion. Not chomping on the bit to do so. 

 

But I have no interest in being a token liberal on a committee stacked with partisans of Bernie Sanders or democratic socialism. 

 

Liberalism and socialism are not synonymous political philosophies.  

 

The fact that there are almost no liberals on this forum is a major problem.

 

Bill

 

 

 

[bludog]

@zkyllonen8:---  Just to keep in mind, the fifth, Conservative moderator, kking, who will be our supervisor.  I have found him to be a fair arbiter.

[SpyCar]

Just now, bludog said:

@zkyllonen8:---  Just to keep in mind, the fifth, Conservative moderator, kking, who will be our supervisor.  I have found him to be a fair arbiter.

 

I have not found that to be the case.

 

Bill

[bludog]

11 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

First, I think this is another psych experiment that's being enjoyed by our host. 

 

Possibly more than just a psych experiment but a calculated opportunity for us to fail in putting together a coalition and then crowing about it. 

 

11 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

Second, I have offered to help mod this room in an impartial fashion. Not chomping on the bit to do so. 

 

But I have no interest in being a token liberal on a committee stacked with partisans of Bernie Sanders or democratic socialism. 

 

Liberalism and socialism are not synonymous political philosophies.  

 

The fact that there are almost no liberals on this forum is a major problem.

 

If you become a mod with all necessary permissions, you will have real ability to make changes, based on your perceptions.  You will not be a token Liberal;  Or a mod in name only.

 

The fact that there are almost no Liberals (your definition, not mine) on this board cannot be helped  for now.   If/when we form a mod team, kfools says we can get Benson and others back.