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Last part of my plan for the forum will go into effect over the weekend.

 

Phase 1:Find out what the fuck has been going on behind the scenes and put a stop to the crazy. Get rid of the fuckers who wanted to keep this a small pond for them to play in.

 

Phase 2: Clean out the trolls,scumbags,losers,and assholes that wreck the entire board for all users so our board isn't a totally embarrassing sight to behold. Thin the herd. Adopt the right features, for both sides. 

 

Now phase 3 comes. 

 

This is by far the worst part for everyone on the board.

 

We turn it over to the liberals. 

 

As I have always said.....it's the liberal forum.

 

To that effect, there will be no more RW moderators,nothing to check thier power except kking. Other than that,libs are to be given a free hand with limited over-site. Do not expect fairness. Do not expect things to make sense. Do not expect cons asses kissed.

 

Leftwingers will select thier own moderators. I will abide thier selection. 

 

A more modernized set of rules will be posted over the weekend including NHB.

 

And hopefully I can take my hands off the wheel and focus on the membership drive.

 

Not a con on the board will be happy about this. Libs make the calls with only the golden rule of no banning for political differences.

 

I have kept my plan close to my chest as I didn't want all the resistance I knew this would cause. I don't care if you agree.

 

Liberals must run the day to day and police thier own forum.

 

Make your selections for leadership libs.

 

Have fun!

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, kfools said:

Last part of my plan for the forum will go into effect over the weekend.

 

Phase 1:Find out what the fuck has been going on behind the scenes and put a stop to the crazy. Get rid of the fuckers who wanted to keep this a small pond for them to play in.

 

Phase 2: Clean out the trolls,scumbags,losers,and assholes that wreck the entire board for all users so our board isn't a totally embarrassing sight to behold. Thin the herd. Adopt the right features, for both sides. 

 

Now phase 3 comes. 

 

This is by far the worst part for everyone on the board.

 

We turn it over to the liberals. 

 

As I have always said.....it's the liberal forum.

 

To that effect, there will be no more RW moderators,nothing to check thier power except kking. Other than that,libs are to be given a free hand with limited over-site. Do not expect fairness. Do not expect things to make sense. Do not expect cons asses kissed.

 

Leftwingers will select thier own moderators. I will abide thier selection. 

 

A more modernized set of rules will be posted over the weekend including NHB.

 

And hopefully I can take my hands off the wheel and focus on the membership drive.

 

Not a con on the board will be happy about this. Libs make the calls with only the golden rule of no banning for political differences.

 

I have kept my plan close to my chest as I didn't want all the resistance I knew this would cause. I don't care if you agree.

 

Liberals must run the day to day and police thier own forum.

 

Make your selections for leadership libs.

 

Have fun!

 

 

 

 

How will selection of the new mods work? 

 

Other than my question above I like this plan. 

 

Thanks for striving to make this the best forum. 

 

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Just now, zkyllonen8 said:

 

How will selection of the new mods work? 

 

Other than my question above I like this plan. 

 

Thanks for striving to make this the best forum. 

 

You guys tell me.

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2 minutes ago, kfools said:

You guys tell me.

 

I think we should have a board array of people from all different parts of the left wing. 

 

All the way from Centrist or Conservative to Progressive and Democratic Socialists. 

 

I think that group should consist of 10 people: 

 

2- Democratic Socialists/ Progressives 

2- Conservatives or Centrists

6- Left of Center Thinkers 

 

So that all people can be heard and there is no getting mad or feeling underrepresented. 

 

These 10 people than have to work in accordance with KKing to make changes. 

 

If the majoirty of these 10 can not agree on a solution than KKing can step in and make the tiebreaking vote. 

 

In my personal opinion I believe that this would make for the most fair and equal forum for everyone.

 

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3 minutes ago, zkyllonen8 said:

 

I think we should have a board array of people from all different parts of the left wing. 

 

All the way from Centrist or Conservative to Progressive and Democratic Socialists. 

 

I think that group should consist of 10 people: 

 

2- Democratic Socialists/ Progressives 

2- Conservatives or Centrists

6- Left of Center Thinkers 

 

So that all people can be heard and there is no getting mad or feeling underrepresented. 

 

These 10 people than have to work in accordance with KKing to make changes. 

 

If the majoirty of these 10 can not agree on a solution than KKing can step in and make the tiebreaking vote. 

 

In my personal opinion I believe that this would make for the most fair and equal forum for everyone.

 

I'm not understanding this exactly.

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Just now, kfools said:

I'm not understanding this exactly.

 

Like you said you want Liberals to run this forum. 

 

This would be the best way. 

 

We have a group of 10 people from all different wings of the party. All the way from the Center-Left to the Far Left. 

 

Being the mods of this forum. 

 

But then KKing steps in if we need a tiebreaking vote on a change in the website, ban, etc... 

 

All of this would come with guidance from you and KKing before anyone made any decisions. 

 

I just think if we have equal representation of all parts of the Liberal wing then it would be fair for everyone. 

 

Just my two cents. 

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2 minutes ago, zkyllonen8 said:

 

Like you said you want Liberals to run this forum. 

 

This would be the best way. 

 

We have a group of 10 people from all different wings of the party. All the way from the Center-Left to the Far Left. 

 

Being the mods of this forum. 

 

But then KKing steps in if we need a tiebreaking vote on a change in the website, ban, etc... 

 

All of this would come with guidance from you and KKing before anyone made any decisions. 

I need liberals to make the decisions. Oversight will be limited .

 

You may unban who you wish and do as you wish.

2 minutes ago, zkyllonen8 said:

I just think if we have equal representation of all parts of the Liberal wing then it would be fair for everyone. 

 

Just my two cents. 

Good idea.

 

I would like to hear from the community also. See what they think.

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18 minutes ago, kfools said:

I need liberals to make the decisions. Oversight will be limited .

 

You may unban who you wish and do as you wish.

Good idea.

 

I would like to hear from the community also. See what they think.

 

Alright sounds good. 

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There are no such thing as "conservative liberals" (that's oxymoronic) and far-left socialism (democratic socialism included) is not a liberal ideology. Quite to the contrary.

 

Liberalism is not a synonym of far-leftism.

 

Bill

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2 hours ago, zkyllonen8 said:

 

Like you said you want Liberals to run this forum. 

 

This would be the best way. 

 

We have a group of 10 people from all different wings of the party. All the way from the Center-Left to the Far Left. 

 

Being the mods of this forum. 

 

But then KKing steps in if we need a tiebreaking vote on a change in the website, ban, etc... 

 

All of this would come with guidance from you and KKing before anyone made any decisions. 

 

I just think if we have equal representation of all parts of the Liberal wing then it would be fair for everyone. 

 

Just my two cents. 


Are you suggesting 10 moderators or am I misunderstanding your post?  That seems a lot. 
 

It’s less important to me where moderator(s) stand on the spectrum than that they are fiercely impartial when it comes to interpreting the rules.  You,  bludog and Spews are more progressive than me but I’m comfortable with any and all of you. Same goes for conservatives  kking, chuck, kfools and teacher (when sober).
 

1AC was the only mod who ever gave me pause.

 

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10 minutes ago, Olivaw said:


Are you suggesting 10 moderators or am I misunderstanding your post?  That seems a lot. 
 

It’s less important to me where moderator(s) stand on the spectrum than that they are fiercely impartial when it comes to interpreting the rules.  You,  bludog and Spews are more progressive than me but I’m comfortable with any and all of you. Same goes for conservatives  kking, chuck, kfools and teacher (when sober).
 

1AC was the only mod who ever gave me pause.

 

 

Not 10 mods but 10 people that are on somewhat of a board that new ideas and proposals have to pass through.

 

This would allow for a more Democratic process, whoever is in the majority there idea would pass and just like I said above if it ends up being a 5-5 split then Kking could come in and break the tie. 

 

A board of all liberals that can work together to make a better overall forum. 

 

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47 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

There are no such thing as "conservative liberals" (that's oxymoronic) and far-left socialism (democratic socialism included) is not a liberal ideology. Quite to the contrary.

 

Liberalism is not a synonym of far-leftism.

 

Bill

 

I am just trying to say that we should have a group of lets just say 10 people from all over the spectrum on the left wing.

 

This would allow for different interpretations of things. 

 

Just like me and you have differences in policy. 

 

It would allow for the best opportunity to make this forum the best for all of it's members. 

 

No matter which side of the aisle you are on or what ideology you might have. 

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1 hour ago, Olivaw said:


Are you suggesting 10 moderators or am I misunderstanding your post?  That seems a lot. 
 

It’s less important to me where moderator(s) stand on the spectrum than that they are fiercely impartial when it comes to interpreting the rules.  You,  bludog and Spews are more progressive than me but I’m comfortable with any and all of you. Same goes for conservatives  kking, chuck, kfools and teacher (when sober).
 

1AC was the only mod who ever gave me pause.

 

 

Were you not posting during the Midol years?

 

Bill

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11 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

Were you not posting during the Midol years?

 

Bill


Yes I was. I enjoyed interacting with Middl3. Sometimes we agreed, sometimes we disagreed. 
 

Mixed feelings about her moderation. She was fine until she declared that she was collecting data on participants.  Fortunately, nothing came of it but it was an abuse of power. 
 

Did you have a problem with her?

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4 hours ago, kfools said:

We turn it over to the liberals. 

 

As I have always said.....it's the liberal forum.

 

To that effect, there will be no more RW moderators,nothing to check thier power except kking. Other than that,libs are to be given a free hand with limited over-site. Do not expect fairness. Do not expect things to make sense. Do not expect cons asses kissed.

 

Conservative kking rules the Liberal mods !!??.  One hand giveth and the other taketh away.  Libs are given a free hand but with limited oversite?  

 

Do not expect fairness?  From whom? 

 

Do not expect things to make sense?:-----  This is entirely unreasonable and does not inspire confidence in this plan.

 

Do not expect cons asses kissed?-----  I never kiss 'em.

 

4 hours ago, kfools said:

Leftwingers will select thier own moderators. I will abide thier selection. 

 

A more modernized set of rules will be posted over the weekend including NHB.

 

I await these rules.  Hopefully they will provide more clarity.

 

4 hours ago, kfools said:

And hopefully I can take my hands off the wheel and focus on the membership drive.

 

Fair enough.  But I cannot help but observe that all your efforts so far, to disengage from micromanagement of these boards, have failed, utterly..

 

4 hours ago, kfools said:

Not a con on the board will be happy about this. Libs make the calls with only the golden rule of no banning for political differences.

 

Of course.

 

4 hours ago, kfools said:

I have kept my plan close to my chest as I didn't want all the resistance I knew this would cause. I don't care if you agree.

 

Liberals must run the day to day and police thier own forum.

 

Make your selections for leadership libs.

 

Have fun!

 

Let the games begin.

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10 minutes ago, bludog said:

 

I don't understand.  One hand giveth and the other taketh away.

I needed people out of the way to clean house. You can't get rid of a single fuck round here without a board riot. So I got everyone out of the way. Now it's the libs game. 

 

There will be some oversight. It will be light. 

 

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I await these rules.  Hopefully they will provide more clarity.

They will.

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Fair enough.  But I cannot help but observe that all your efforts so far, to disengage from micromanagement of these boards, have failed, utterly..

Same problem people over and over. All gone. Not a complaint in days. I will focus on the site drive. Just to know who you guys pick to run the show.

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Of course.

 

 

Let the games begin.

Indeed.

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Need to know who you guys select I mean.

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5 minutes ago, kfools said:

I needed people out of the way to clean house. You can't get rid of a single fuck round here without a board riot. So I got everyone out of the way. Now it's the libs game. 

 

There will be some oversight. It will be light.

 

Much better.  This I can understand better.

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3 minutes ago, kfools said:

Need to know who you guys select I mean.

 

Please give us some time.  I would guess, a week would probably be reasonable to work things out. 

 

Fellow Liberals, please add your input.

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2 minutes ago, bludog said:

 

Please give us some time.  I would guess, a week would probably be reasonable to work things out. 

 

Fellow Liberals, please add your input.

Take your time.

 

Site drive starts this weekend.

 Get something together so you all can govern the board.

 

The faction split should be addressed and probably spycar will need to have some input as he seems to represent a more middle of the road approach....but that's for you all to decide.

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4 hours ago, kfools said:

Who liberals want unbanned is thier business.

 

10-4.

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9 minutes ago, kfools said:

The faction split should be addressed


There is no faction split - not one that is relevant, anyway, 

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4 minutes ago, Olivaw said:


There is no faction split - not one that is relevant, anyway, 

I understand that what you mean is.

 

"With current membership"

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1 minute ago, kfools said:

I understand that what you mean is.

 

"With current membership"


Yes, but ....

 

there is no significant faction split within the larger Democratic and liberal communities either. 

 


 

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10 minutes ago, Olivaw said:


Yes, but ....

 

there is no significant faction split within the larger Democratic and liberal communities either. 

 


 

Every other leftwing board I look at shows something else.

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