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NY doctors has now treated 699 people with %100 success rate, ventilation is not a safe easy procedure.

 

I keep yelling at the TV to give sick people hydroxychloroquine every time I see medical experts concentrating on pleading for masks, hospital beds and ventilators to combat the coronavirus. Why give hydroxychloroquine? It has been proven in small tests around the world that it works with little to no side effects. In countries like China and Turkey, it is given at the first sign of trouble, and their results are clear—it works and actually removes the China virus.

 

 

 

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Just now, isidewithweinstein said:

damit, and the cdc just demanded we all run around lookin like Antifa!

That damn trump administration. 

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Just now, isidewithweinstein said:

the bureaucratically entrenched are not trumps administration, they are obamas.

They are letting people take those drugs now. 

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2 minutes ago, dontlooknow said:

Last I heard it's not effective. 

 

If you look contagious in most other country's, you are going to get it, no time for test.

 

"In countries like China and Turkey, it is given at the first sign of trouble, and their results are clear—it works and actually removes the China virus."

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1 minute ago, Chongo said:

 

If you look contagious in most other country's, you are going to get it, no time for test.

 

"In countries like China and Turkey, it is given at the first sign of trouble, and their results are clear—it works and actually removes the China virus."

Well I hope you are right. 

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Small Trial Finds Hydroxychloroquine Is Not Effective for Treating Coronavirus

A trial of an anti-malaria drug in France found different results from a similar study published the previous month.

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Published3 April 2020
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On March 28 the Food and Drug Administration approved the use of two antimalarial drugs, hydroxychloroquine and a related medication, chloroquine, for emergency use to treat COVID-19. The drugs were touted by President Trump as a “game changer” for COVID-19.

However, a study just published in a French medical journal provides new evidence that hydroxychloroquine does not appear to help the immune system clear the coronavirus from the body. The study comes on the heels of two others – one in France and one in China – that reported some benefits in the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for COVID-19 patients who didn’t have severe symptoms of the virus.

 

I am a medicinal chemist who has specialized in discovery and development of antiviral drugs for the past 30 years, and I have been actively working on coronaviruses for the past seven. I am among a number of researchers who are concerned that this drug has been given too much of a high priority before there is enough evidence to show it is indeed effective.

There are already other clinical studies that showed it is not effective against COVID-19 as well as several other viruses. And, more importantly, it can have dangerous side effects, as well as giving people false hope. The latter has led to widespread shortages of hydroxychloroquine for patients who need it to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, the indications for which it was originally approved.

The idea that the combination of hydroxychloroquine with an antibiotic drug, azithromycin, was effective against COVID-19 gained more attention after a study published on March 17. This study described a trial of 80 patients carried out by Philippe Gautret in Marseille, France. Although some of their results appeared to be encouraging, it should also be noted that most of their patients only had mild symptoms. Furthermore, 85% of the patients didn’t even have a fever – one of the major telltale symptoms of the virus, thus suggesting that these patients likely would have naturally cleared the virus without any intervention.

In another study, posted on medRxiv, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, Chinese scientists from Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University, in Wuhan, China, gave hydroxychloroquine to patients with only mild infections who were free of medical issues, similar to the Gautret study. The results showed that the 31 patients who received the drug showed a lessening of their symptoms 24 hours earlier than patients in the control group. In addition, pneumonia symptoms improved in 25 of the 31 patients versus 17 of 31 in the control group. As noted in several of the comments associated with the manuscript, there are issues related to the translation of the paper, thus clouding interpretations of some of the results. The paper also appears to focus more on pneumonia than COVID-19. However, these issues may be cleared up or addressed once the paper finishes the peer-review process.

But two other studies have conflicting results.

A second French group, led by Jean-Michel Molina, has now tested the hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin combination treatment in 11 patients at the Hôpital Saint-Louis in Paris, France, and their results were strikingly different.

Like the Marseille study, the Molina trial was also a small pilot study. Molina and colleagues used the same dosing regimen as Gautret. In contrast, however, to the Gautret study, eight of the 11 patients had underlying health conditions, and 10 of 11 had fevers and were quite ill at the time the dosing began.

These Paris researchers found that after five to six days of treatment with hydroxychloroquine (600 mg per day for 10 days) and azithromycin (500 mg on day 1 and 250 mg on days 2 to 5), eight of the 10 patients still tested positive for COVID-19. Of these 10 patients, one patient died, two were transferred to the ICU and another had to be removed from the treatment due to serious complications.

 

In addition, a similar study in China also showed no difference in viral clearance after seven days either with or without the hydroxychloroquine with the patients in the trial. This supports Molina’s findings.

Thus, despite the recent approval of this drug for use against COVID-19, questions remain as to the efficacy of this treatment. As Molina and colleagues note: “Ongoing randomized clinical trials with hydroxychloroquine should provide a definitive answer regarding the alleged efficacy of this combination and will assess its safety.”

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1 minute ago, dontlooknow said:

However, a study just published in a French medical journal provides new evidence that hydroxychloroquine does not appear to help the immune system clear the coronavirus from the body. The study comes on the heels of two others – one in France and one in China – that reported some benefits in the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for COVID-19 patients who didn’t have severe symptoms of the virus.

This seems to be a good thing tho. Possibly. 

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6 minutes ago, dontlooknow said:

This study described a trial of 80 patients carried out by Philippe Gautret in Marseille, France. Although some of their results appeared to be encouraging, it should also be noted that most of their patients only had mild symptoms. Furthermore, 85% of the patients didn’t even have a fever – one of the major telltale symptoms of the virus, thus suggesting that these patients likely would have naturally cleared the virus without any intervention.

I hope it will work. 

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I wonder how many patients who take hydroxychloroquine for malaria rheumatoid arthritis and lupus have contracted covid 19?

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2 minutes ago, dontlooknow said:

I hope it will work. 

 

I would do it before you have to go on a ventilater or whatever $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The NY doctor is prescribing zinc along with the hydroxychloroquine and antibotics.

 

"The malaria drug hydroxychloroquine is the best coronavirus drug currently available, according to an international poll of thousands of doctors. 

Of 6,200 physicians surveyed from 30 countries, the majority (37 per cent) said it was the 'most effective therapy' for the virus."

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1 minute ago, Chongo said:

 

I would do it before you have to go on a ventilater or whatever $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The NY doctor is prescribing zinc along with the hydroxychloroquine and antibotics.

 

"The malaria drug hydroxychloroquine is the best coronavirus drug currently available, according to an international poll of thousands of doctors. 

Of 6,200 physicians surveyed from 30 countries, the majority (37 per cent) said it was the 'most effective therapy' for the virus."

I hope it's effective. 

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2 minutes ago, dontlooknow said:

I hope it's effective. 

3-10-2020 Zinc an exciting story

 

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10 minutes ago, 1AC said:

I wonder how many patients who take hydroxychloroquine for malaria rheumatoid arthritis and lupus have contracted covid 19?

 

That would be interesting to know, actually.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Chongo said:

3-10-2020 Zinc an exciting story

 

I wasn't any good at biology. 

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1 hour ago, dontlooknow said:

I wasn't any good at biology. 

 

Not a good time to be zinc deficient.

 

Worldwide deaths, January 1st through March 25th of this year. Are you ready? Worldwide deaths from January 1st to March 25th, 2020,

>>>>>>>>>21,000 deaths coronavirus. And that’s the low number<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. The lowest number of deaths, January 1st, March 25th, coronavirus. Now keep that number, 21,000 coronavirus deaths, and counting. We have to say “and counting.” Now, 113,000 deaths by seasonal flu, 228,000 deaths by malaria. Around the world, worldwide, worldwide. Not America. Worldwide.”  This is January 1st through March 25th. So basically three months.

 

0 corona virus death rate seems tolerable for the media but what about all the flu and other types of deaths?

 

“Coronavirus, 21,000 deaths.
Seasonal flu, 113,000.
Malaria, 228,000.
Suicide, 249,000.
Traffic fatalities, 313, almost 314,000 deaths.
HIV/AIDS, 391,000 deaths.
Alcohol related deaths, 581,000.
Smoking-related deaths, 1,162,000.
Cancer deaths, 1,909,000 deaths.
Deaths attributed to starvation, 2,382,000 deaths.
And death by abortion, 9,900,000.”

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3 hours ago, LaughinAtLefty said:

 

That would be interesting to know, actually.

 

 

 yeah... Occasionally I come up with a good question... I'm just wondering why I haven't heard all these smart people and experts ask it

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4 hours ago, Chongo said:

NY doctors has now treated 699 people with %100 success rate, ventilation is not a safe easy procedure.

 

I keep yelling at the TV to give sick people hydroxychloroquine every time I see medical experts concentrating on pleading for masks, hospital beds and ventilators to combat the coronavirus. Why give hydroxychloroquine? It has been proven in small tests around the world that it works with little to no side effects. In countries like China and Turkey, it is given at the first sign of trouble, and their results are clear—it works and actually removes the China virus.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Chongo said:

 

Not a good time to be zinc deficient.

 

Worldwide deaths, January 1st through March 25th of this year. Are you ready? Worldwide deaths from January 1st to March 25th, 2020,

>>>>>>>>>21,000 deaths coronavirus. And that’s the low number<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. The lowest number of deaths, January 1st, March 25th, coronavirus. Now keep that number, 21,000 coronavirus deaths, and counting. We have to say “and counting.” Now, 113,000 deaths by seasonal flu, 228,000 deaths by malaria. Around the world, worldwide, worldwide. Not America. Worldwide.”  This is January 1st through March 25th. So basically three months.

 

0 corona virus death rate seems tolerable for the media but what about all the flu and other types of deaths?

 

“Coronavirus, 21,000 deaths.
Seasonal flu, 113,000.
Malaria, 228,000.
Suicide, 249,000.
Traffic fatalities, 313, almost 314,000 deaths.
HIV/AIDS, 391,000 deaths.
Alcohol related deaths, 581,000.
Smoking-related deaths, 1,162,000.
Cancer deaths, 1,909,000 deaths.
Deaths attributed to starvation, 2,382,000 deaths.
And death by abortion, 9,900,000.”

Do you have a link you could post?

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4 hours ago, 1AC said:

I wonder how many patients who take hydroxychloroquine for malaria rheumatoid arthritis and lupus have contracted covid 19?

 

Damn good question that has occurred to me also

 

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