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Where are the young people for Bernie?

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9 minutes ago, progressivecitizen said:

If they aren't showing up the way they're supposed to for the primaries, how can we trust them for the general election? This seems overall to be a deadbeat community.

 

It's a major problem for the Country.  And therefore, the World.  One can only hope that the goal of removing Trump will provide more motivation in the general election.

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2 hours ago, progressivecitizen said:

If they aren't showing up the way they're supposed to for the primaries, how can we trust them for the general election? This seems overall to be a deadbeat community.

I haven't looked at the stats for voter turnout for primaries to see if they are doing what they are 'supposed' to be doing vs previous cycles.

From what I've been able to gather, the youth vote (Ages 18-29) voted in approximately the same numbers as 4 years ago, however against a backdrop of all-time record turnout:

 

Virginia- nearly 70% increase over 2016,  surpassing a previous record set in 2008.
North Carolina - turnout was up by about 17 percent over 2016 levels.

Texas - at least 45 percent more voters went to the polls.

 

So there seems to have been a huge surge in the turnout of moderate voters, (primarily boomers), who coalesced around Biden. Whether old voters turned out more, or young voters turned out less, the result is the same.

 

2 hours ago, progressivecitizen said:

how can we trust them for the general election?

I trust they would vote for Sanders if given the chance.

A loaded question. If you are asking 'will they turn out to vote for Biden in Nov?', then I would say no.

Biden has dismal support among millennials, xGen, latinX voters.

 

One of the consequences of nominating Biden is losing support among these groups, so we should not act surprised when the predictable happens.

 

In the long term, you haven't heard the last from younger voters.

Unfortunately, in the short term, Democrats may have indeed heard the last of them.

 

3 hours ago, progressivecitizen said:

This seems overall to be a deadbeat community.

If you are looking for deadbeat communities, they are everywhere.

 

I personally view K-Street, and Wall St as deadbeat communities, but what do I know.

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This is the fatal flaw in Bernie's stategy. He's counting on a group of voters who can't be counted on. It's too bad too. How many more young voters would it have taken to prevent trump from becoming president? Who many more young voters would it have taken to prevent GW.  Bush from becoming president?? How our world would look so different right now if only young people would take the time to vote. I'm no Sanders supporter, only pointing out why his revolution was always doomed from the start.

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My son who is twenty and a junior in college placed his first vote in the primary for Bernie. He really wanted Warren but felt she had little chance considering the field on Super Tuesday. Bernie once again gets a lot of backlash all over in the press for saying he's a Democratic Socialist. Many progressives understand what that actually means but unfortunately too many Americans do not. I think it hurt a lot when a big chunk of candidates who fell out of the race came out and endorsed Biden after S. Carolina. It's not an excuse, but I think it did have an effect on turnout. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, TheOldBarn said:

My son who is twenty and a junior in college placed his first vote in the primary for Bernie. He really wanted Warren but felt she had little chance considering the field on Super Tuesday. Bernie once again gets a lot of backlash all over in the press for saying he's a Democratic Socialist. Many progressives understand what that actually means but unfortunately too many Americans do not. I think it hurt a lot when a big chunk of candidates who fell out of the race came out and endorsed Biden after S. Carolina. It's not an excuse, but I think it did have an effect on turnout. 

 

 

A good politician is careful to brand him/herself to appeal to as many voters as possible. By branding himself as a Democratic Socialist Bernie has managed to alienate a huge segment of the population. That's not how you win the majority in an election. Bernie has had four years to refine his message but he has not expanded his appeal. He has made a significant contribution to the party platform, but I doubt he has influenced enough to become the nominee.

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2 hours ago, calguy said:

A good politician is careful to brand him/herself to appeal to as many voters as possible. By branding himself as a Democratic Socialist Bernie has managed to alienate a huge segment of the population. That's not how you win the majority in an election. Bernie has had four years to refine his message but he has not expanded his appeal. He has made a significant contribution to the party platform, but I doubt he has influenced enough to become the nominee.

well said. You need to educate the populace. It would take a lot more education for enough people to see truthfully what has been going on. That's why I supported Warren. We cannot give up. 

 

Peace!

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