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I think we are at a crossroads.
Which way should we go?
A few definitions may help...

 

Populism: a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.

Both right-wing populism and left-wing populism object to the perceived control by elites.
populism of the left objects to the power of large corporations and their allies.
populism of the right supports strong controls on immigration.

 

So, if you do not agree with populism (left, or right ), then what are the other choices?
There are a couple possibilities....

 

The opposite of populism appears to be elitism.


Elitism: The belief that a society or system should be run by an established elite.
See also:Micheal Bloomberg

or
Authoritarianism: A form of government in which the governing body has absolute, or almost absolute, control.
Little heed is paid to public opinion of ordinary people, or the judicial system.
See also: You know who

 

Frankly, neither of those two -isms seem very attractive.

 

I might recommend considering some -isms that were popular in this country 244 years ago,

Egalitarianism: The political doctrine that holds that all people in a society should have equal rights from birth.
or
Equalitarianism: A school of thought within political philosophy that prioritizes equality for all people.

 

Don't even get me started  socialism vs capitalism. We are blend of both, and many shades of green in between.

 

 

 

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On 2/28/2020 at 12:29 PM, ExPDXer said:

I think we are at a crossroads.
Which way should we go?
A few definitions may help...

 

Populism: a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.

Both right-wing populism and left-wing populism object to the perceived control by elites.
populism of the left objects to the power of large corporations and their allies.
populism of the right supports strong controls on immigration.

 

So, if you do not agree with populism (left, or right ), then what are the other choices?
There are a couple possibilities....

 

The opposite of populism appears to be elitism.


Elitism: The belief that a society or system should be run by an established elite.
See also:Micheal Bloomberg

or
Authoritarianism: A form of government in which the governing body has absolute, or almost absolute, control.
Little heed is paid to public opinion of ordinary people, or the judicial system.
See also: You know who

 

Frankly, neither of those two -isms seem very attractive.

 

I might recommend considering some -isms that were popular in this country 244 years ago,

Egalitarianism: The political doctrine that holds that all people in a society should have equal rights from birth.
or
Equalitarianism: A school of thought within political philosophy that prioritizes equality for all people.

 

Don't even get me started  socialism vs capitalism. We are blend of both, and many shades of green in between.

 

 

 

I think you mention something important here. 

Populism, also might mean that people from whatever side, let's call it identity politics for polarity sake, can be a movement where people feel as though decade after decade, no matter who is elected, nothing much changes for them. I feel some folks voted for Trump out of complete exasperation as though his presidency would be like lobbing a nuclear bomb on the entire do nothing Washington establishment. I also think, some of those people, would just as likely have voted for someone like Bernie Sanders. (this is not to say that a populist candidate is not needed. I think Bernie's candidacy moved the Democratic establishment to the left - and that's a good thing, not a radical thing, but the right thing).

 

Elitism, this term is filled with nuance. Are we talking science, or even the idea of using gifted economist to suss out real problems within a rigged economic system, or are we talking about corporations using their lobbyist to control the US congress, and trade? I think that the Bill Clinton administration went a long way to undercut the average american worker with Robert Rubin as his Secretary of Treasury. And this type of Wall Street elitism, whether regarding complete disregard for the American Worker, or the effusive belief that banks should be allowed to both lend, as well as speculate - has indeed helped to disenchant a whole lot people who inevitably no longer trust their own government - And perhaps for some, no way no how!!! ( they distrust the government, and completely believe that they have zero representation from the government - lets call them just for fun, Libertarian's.)

 

Authoritarianism, again, this is an identity politics sort of word in at least how it has helped to divide all the people. If you say, do something about gun violence you have a whole bunch of NRA supporters going crazy, saying it is their given right before god to own a gun. They say, to regulate gun sales is Authoritarianism. 

People don't say, the health system as it now exists in the USA is Authoritarianism, even though it in truth actually is. 

 

Egalitarianism, both of your definitions hold merit here. Take the single professional in any age in human history who stays single and then emotes, why should I have to pay taxes for kids to receive a decent public school education, since I have no kids myself. 

Well, the answer to that question should be more than quite clear.

 

Peace!

 

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Expdxer, you are extremely fantastic! 

We need more like you. Your efforts make a difference!

I appreciate all of your posts on this board. In the darkest times it is voices like yours that keep my hope alive!

I just wanted to say that. I think everybody who goes on this board from time to time would agree!

 

Even flow - I was lucky myself. I was raised by a single mom. She had a nursing degree to fall back on in the sixties when I grew up.

I always did think that eventually the people in America would figure out how to entertain a path forward that would include all of us here, and the rest of the world.

I was raised in the sixties, and I thought it was a point of inflection on the S-shaped sigmoid curve. Well I didn't think that, I think I just felt it. 

It was just a naive feeling, that somehow I still feel is quite true.

 

We were poor, but not poor. My mother who was born in 1923 was smart, she juggled finances and kept the debts we incurred as a family manageable. 

I was the youngest of eight. My oldest sister would always tell me that life was hard. She went to college and got a Master's degree in English before becoming

a teacher. Life is hard. My brother went to Vietnam. My dad who left our family was a marine who served over two years overseas fighting on islands against the Japanese,

and finally in China. 

 

Life is hard. I grew up during injustice regarding all brown skinned folks. The civil rights movement was mercurial to my entire identity way before the understanding that

I now have regarding economic injustice.

 

Everything, I mean everything, music, art, language, the natural environment that I have always loved tells me this each and everyday. 

 

I do give a damn!

 

Anyway - for some who are wondering how to pay for single payer. There's this.

 

Of course, it would cost 39.7 trillion over 10 years to pay for single payer. 

https://www.peri.umass.edu/images/Pollin--Open_Letter_to_Sen_Sanders_re_Medicare_for_All_funding---10-7-19-2.pdf

 

Peace!

 

 

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