Str8tEdge Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/ Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkyllonen8 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 We still spend 2x more per capita on Healthcare per person. What is your proposal for the problem that we currently have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, zkyllonen8 said: We still spend 2x more per capita on Healthcare per person. What is your proposal for the problem that we currently have? You claim that’s a problem but did you stop and think we have 2x the access to specialists, MRI’s and speciality care? If you don’t think so, compare wait times for MRI’s, specialty care, cancer treatment, etc. against single payer systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 In other words, why shouldn’t the richest country in the world have the best access to healthcare? What leftists don’t like is cost but their solution just forces someone else to pay for their care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Poor idiots can’t even get single payer to work in ONE state so the leftist solution is to take failure and times it by 50. 😂 Actually, the real leftist agenda isn’t saving costs. We all know single payer will be vastly more expensive. What single payer does is shift the burden of healthcare onto the top 40% of Americans who actually contribute while the bottom 60% continue their free ride. Wealth redistribution=single payer. It’s that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theLion Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Well, if you really want to know... https://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/single-payer-vermont-113711 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, theLion said: Well, if you really want to know... https://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/single-payer-vermont-113711 Ya... couldn’t pay for it... So much for single payer saving money. Get back to us when you can successfully implement single payer in ONE state, before you attempt your failure on the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 hours ago, DeepBreath said: https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/ Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All @WillFranklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Shilly willly and the rest of the brain dead zombies have no real answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, Vegas said: Shilly willly and the rest of the brain dead zombies have no real answer. Of course not. Willie even posted several times on his propaganda threads while ignoring me linking him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 hours ago, DeepBreath said: https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/ Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All They have no answer... But somehow putting 330 million on the plan will fix everything.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Z09 said: They have no answer... But somehow putting 330 million on the plan will fix everything.. That’s multiplying their failure by 50 but the sinister part is none of them will pay for it. Single payer is just another way to redistribute wealth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 9:46 PM, DeepBreath said: https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/ Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All @WillFranklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrill Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 9:46 PM, DeepBreath said: https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/ Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All Hey dummy Romney was not successful either. Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years this could not be done state by state because it is designed for nationwide coverage. Hey dummy California and New York could possibly pull it off. All other states should forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, merrill said: Hey dummy Romney was not successful either. Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years this could not be done state by state because it is designed for nationwide coverage. Hey dummy California and New York could possibly pull it off. All other states should forget it. What the hell are you talking about?????😂 It needs to be nationwide in order for it to work???? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahajahahahahaha!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, merrill said: Hey dummy Romney was not successful either. Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years this could not be done state by state because it is designed for nationwide coverage. Hey dummy California and New York could possibly pull it off. All other states should forget it. Hey Merrill Why doesn't Bernie fix Amtrak or the USPS first? He can show us what a great job the government can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 8:46 PM, DeepBreath said: https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/ Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All Not a good sign for Bernie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, merrill said: Hey dummy Romney was not successful either. Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years this could not be done state by state because it is designed for nationwide coverage. Hey dummy California and New York could possibly pull it off. All other states should forget it. "Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years" Did Bernie support it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Picture this.. Bernie wants your guns Healthcare decisions Open borders Wealth distribution.. Think about that disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, Z09 said: Picture this.. Bernie wants your guns Healthcare decisions Open borders Wealth distribution.. Think about that disaster Don’t forget raising taxes on anyone making 29k or more. Finally a leftist who tells us what rich is. 29k a year. 😂 I guess that is rich in a communist country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrill Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Let's put Bernie In The White House !!! NO ONE HAS ASKED FOR GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE I WANT SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE FOR MY TAX DOLLARS. I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS PAYING: - FOR PREFERENTIAL TAX CODES FOR THE WEALTHY - FOR INVADING OTHER COUNTRIES - FOR WORLD WIDE OIL CONTROL - FOR CORPORATE WELFARE - FOR TRUMP DEFENSE LAWYERS - FOR A WALL - FOR SPLITTING UP FAMILIES AND LOCKING UP CHILDREN - FOR PRIVATIZATION FUNDING AND GUARANTEED PRIVATIZATION PROFITS - FOR SHORING UP THE MEDICAL INSURANCE INDUSTRY - FOR BAILING OUT CORRUPT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS - ETC ETC ETC IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE USA GOVERNMENT COULD WELL AFFORD SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE FOR ALL OF WE TAXPAYERS SIMPLY BY ELIMINATING ALL OF THE ABOVE = RESPONSIBLY MANAGING THE PEOPLE'S TAX DOLLARS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of the county Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 10:46 PM, DeepBreath said: https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/ Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All Oh man good debate question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, king of the county said: Oh man good debate question The only answer so far is we need to implement it in all 50 states to make it work....😂 That was @merrill. Clearly one of the dumbest leftists we have on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taipan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, DeepBreath said: The only answer so far is we need to implement it in all 50 states to make it work....😂 That was @merrill. Clearly one of the dumbest leftists we have on this board. Do you have a solution to high cost H/care and high cost drugs? I respect your opinion. I am sipping on Jack Daniels tonight and trying to solve the problems.....of all mankind. 🥃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 21 hours ago, DeepBreath said: @WillFranklin Why is @WillFranklin avoiding this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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