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If single payer is so cost effective, why did Bernie Sanders home state of Vermont ABANDON it due to COSTS?????


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3 minutes ago, zkyllonen8 said:

We still spend 2x more per capita on Healthcare per person. 

 

What is your proposal for the problem that we currently have? 

You claim that’s a problem but did you stop and think we have 2x the access to specialists, MRI’s and speciality care? 
 

If you don’t think so, compare wait times for MRI’s, specialty care, cancer treatment, etc. against single payer systems. 

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In other words, why shouldn’t the richest country in the world have the best access to healthcare? 
 

What leftists don’t like is cost but their solution just forces someone else to pay for their care. 

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Poor idiots can’t even get single payer to work in ONE state so the leftist solution is to take failure and times it by 50. 😂
 

Actually, the real leftist agenda isn’t saving costs. We all know single payer will be vastly more expensive. What single payer does is shift the burden of healthcare onto the top 40% of Americans who actually contribute while the bottom 60% continue their free ride. 
 

Wealth redistribution=single payer. It’s that simple. 

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27 minutes ago, Vegas said:

Shilly willly and the rest of the brain dead zombies have no real answer. 

Of course not. Willie even posted several times on his propaganda threads while ignoring me linking him here.

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5 hours ago, DeepBreath said:

https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/

 

Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All

They have no answer...

But somehow putting 330 million on the plan will fix everything..

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10 minutes ago, Z09 said:

They have no answer...

But somehow putting 330 million on the plan will fix everything..

That’s multiplying their failure by 50 but the sinister part is none of them will pay for it. 
 

Single payer is just another way to redistribute wealth. 

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On 2/21/2020 at 9:46 PM, DeepBreath said:

https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/

 

Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All

 

Hey dummy Romney was not successful either.

 

Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years this could not be done state by state because it is designed for nationwide coverage.

 

Hey dummy California and New York could possibly pull it off. All other states should forget it.

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2 hours ago, merrill said:

 

Hey dummy Romney was not successful either.

 

Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years this could not be done state by state because it is designed for nationwide coverage.

 

Hey dummy California and New York could possibly pull it off. All other states should forget it.

What the hell are you talking about?????😂

 

It needs to be nationwide in order for it to work???? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahajahahahahaha!!!!!

 

 

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2 hours ago, merrill said:

 

Hey dummy Romney was not successful either.

 

Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years this could not be done state by state because it is designed for nationwide coverage.

 

Hey dummy California and New York could possibly pull it off. All other states should forget it.

Hey Merrill

 

Why doesn't Bernie fix Amtrak or the USPS first?

He can show us what a great job the government can do

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2 hours ago, merrill said:

 

Hey dummy Romney was not successful either.

 

Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years this could not be done state by state because it is designed for nationwide coverage.

 

Hey dummy California and New York could possibly pull it off. All other states should forget it.

"Hey dummy it has been known for 15 years"

 

Did Bernie support it?

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21 minutes ago, Z09 said:

Picture this..

 

Bernie wants your guns

Healthcare decisions

Open borders

Wealth distribution..

 

Think about that disaster

 

 

Don’t forget raising taxes on anyone making 29k or more. Finally a leftist who tells us what rich is. 29k a year. 😂 I guess that is rich in a communist country. 

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Let's put Bernie In The White House !!!

 

NO ONE HAS ASKED FOR GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE I WANT SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE FOR MY TAX DOLLARS.

 

I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS PAYING:

 

- FOR PREFERENTIAL TAX CODES FOR THE WEALTHY

- FOR INVADING OTHER COUNTRIES 

- FOR WORLD WIDE OIL CONTROL

- FOR CORPORATE WELFARE

- FOR TRUMP DEFENSE LAWYERS

- FOR A WALL 

- FOR SPLITTING UP FAMILIES AND LOCKING UP CHILDREN

- FOR PRIVATIZATION FUNDING AND GUARANTEED PRIVATIZATION PROFITS

- FOR SHORING UP THE MEDICAL INSURANCE INDUSTRY

- FOR BAILING OUT CORRUPT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS

- ETC ETC ETC

 

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE USA GOVERNMENT COULD WELL AFFORD SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE FOR ALL OF WE TAXPAYERS SIMPLY BY

ELIMINATING ALL OF THE ABOVE = RESPONSIBLY MANAGING THE PEOPLE'S TAX DOLLARS

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On 2/21/2020 at 10:46 PM, DeepBreath said:

https://reason.com/2019/10/09/why-the-failure-of-vermonts-single-payer-plan-is-the-best-argument-against-medicare-for-all/

 

Why the Failure of Vermont's Single-Payer Plan Is the Best Argument Against Medicare for All

Oh man good debate question 

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2 minutes ago, king of the county said:

Oh man good debate question 

The only answer so far is we need to implement it in all 50 states to make it work....😂

 

That was @merrill. Clearly one of the dumbest leftists we have on this board. 

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2 hours ago, DeepBreath said:

The only answer so far is we need to implement it in all 50 states to make it work....😂

 

That was @merrill. Clearly one of the dumbest leftists we have on this board. 

 

Do you have a solution to high cost H/care and high cost drugs?

I respect your opinion.                 

I am sipping on Jack Daniels tonight and trying to solve the problems.....of all mankind.               🥃

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