Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Renewable energy; wind and solar. Sounds good right? Even to conservatives the idea of energy independence sounds good. But did Al Gore, AOC, and all those Liberal politicians, who demand you pay them your money in the name of Climate Change, hoodwink you again? In order to obtain the materials needed to build solar panels and wind turbines, we have to mine and burn fossil fuels, and yes that means we have to disturb ground water to achieve solar and wind energy. Once we have the materials, in order to make solar panels and wind turbines we have to burn even more fossil fuels AND create waste! Once we have solar panels and wind turbines up and running, we have to burn a lot of fossil fuels just for the upkeep and maintenance of them!!!! Oh and electric cars currently run on electricity that is generated BY BURNING FOSSIL FUELS. BOOM! That's the sound of a Liberal mind. I encourage all Liberals to look up lithium mines. They are the most disturbing mines of the environment. I'm not for or against solar and wind. We should do what's best for the country, and energy independence definitely would be great. But Liberals need to think about these things more. Why do they tell us oil, coal, natural gas, nuclear etc. are bad when they're not honest about "renewable" energy? The future of humans is space (should we be so lucky to stay civilized and make it there) and we will need fossil fuels to explore/settle in space. As far as Climate Change initiatives go, I honestly support them, but from a health standpoint not because I think the world is going to end. Reducing pollution, plastic, garbage, etc. those are all honestly good ideas and healthy ideas. But this planet is 4+ BILLION years old, and humans can't even comprehend that amount of time. The world won't be that much impacted in a single human's life time. Throughout the Earth's history the climate has been FAR colder and FAR warmer than we are now. Volcanic activity during the dinosaurs and at other times during the Earth's history, such as when the Earth was just beginning to have life in micro-organisms, produced FAR more carbon dioxide than humans are doing today. But if we can reduce our carbon dioxide emissions, that would be great! Let's reduce asthma in our children. We just can't compromise our economy and the progress of humans in the name of Climate Change. I take serious issue with politicians like Al Gore, AOC, the Paris Climate Agreement and others who DEMAND that Liberals pay them all their money because those politicians will miraculously fix the climate of a 4+ Billion year old Earth. Liberals you need to wisen up on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 And yes Bernie Sanders and his collusion with Russians care about this too! (apparently Bernie's Russian collusion is the hot news today lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 BUMP! Communist Bernie and Communist Jill Stein care about the climate! I picked a bad night to try and make a debate on this topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Liberals what say you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 A quarter of all tweets about climate crisis produced by bots An analysis of millions of tweets from around the period when Donald Trump announced the US would withdraw from the Paris climate agreement found that bots tended to applaud the president for his actions and spread misinformation about the science. The study of Twitter bots and climate was undertaken by Brown University and has yet to be published. Bots are a type of software that can be directed to autonomously tweet, retweet, like or direct message on Twitter, under the guise of a human-fronted account. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/21/climate-tweets-twitter-bots-analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, leftwinger said: A quarter of all tweets about climate crisis produced by bots An analysis of millions of tweets from around the period when Donald Trump announced the US would withdraw from the Paris climate agreement found that bots tended to applaud the president for his actions and spread misinformation about the science. The study of Twitter bots and climate was undertaken by Brown University and has yet to be published. Bots are a type of software that can be directed to autonomously tweet, retweet, like or direct message on Twitter, under the guise of a human-fronted account. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/21/climate-tweets-twitter-bots-analysis If you were educated, you would know that blog sites such as this one have measures in place to make sure only real people are commenting? Are Liberals seriously this misinformed about everything in the world? Even if I am a bot, can you not make an argument against what bots say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Patriot211289 said: If you were educated, you would know that blog sites such as this one have measures in place to make sure only real people are commenting? Are Liberals seriously this misinformed about everything in the world? Even if I am a bot, can you not make an argument against what bots say? zzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, leftwinger said: A quarter of all tweets about climate crisis produced by bots An analysis of millions of tweets from around the period when Donald Trump announced the US would withdraw from the Paris climate agreement found that bots tended to applaud the president for his actions and spread misinformation about the science. The study of Twitter bots and climate was undertaken by Brown University and has yet to be published. Bots are a type of software that can be directed to autonomously tweet, retweet, like or direct message on Twitter, under the guise of a human-fronted account. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/21/climate-tweets-twitter-bots-analysis This also goes along the lines of Russian Collusion hoaxes against Trump and Bernie Sanders. If Liberals disagree with someone they seek to discredit them rather than debate them? You are pathetic "leftwinger". Make an argument against my post or prove to the forum you have no merit to stand on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Patriot211289 said: This also goes along the lines of Russian Collusion hoaxes against Trump and Bernie Sanders. If Liberals disagree with someone they seek to discredit them rather than debate them? You are pathetic "leftwinger". Make an argument against my post or prove to the forum you have no merit to stand on. Gosh, you have some blog. Better than all the world's scientists. Are you really this fukking stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, leftwinger said: zzzzzzz This is a prime example of how Liberals make an argument. Thank you. I hope everyone sees this. And you are a "senior member" here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Patriot211289 said: This is a prime example of how Liberals make an argument. Thank you. I hope everyone sees this. And you are a "senior member" here? bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegayscottsman Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, leftwinger said: zzzzzzz well..lets look at this new virus..it kills and makes infertile...maybe thats why trump is cool about climate change..he knows hes got guy working on population rather than pollution....maybe he authorised it the day he took out the Iranian general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, leftwinger said: Gosh, you have some blog. Better than all the world's scientists. Are you really this fukking stupid? This isn't my blog. You Liberals fail in vocabulary as much as you fail in everything else. This is my post/thread. Look up blog and go back to grade school to become enlightened by basic education like history and earth science. If you're calling me stupid then what is your argument? Where do you think solar panels and wind turbines come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, leftwinger said: bye So Liberals are quitters? I'm actually annoyed that it's a challenge to have a good debate with a Liberal. I'm only here to try and open Liberals'' minds. I am more middle of the road than anything else and can have a very civilized argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, leftwinger said: A quarter of all tweets about climate crisis produced by bots An analysis of millions of tweets from around the period when Donald Trump announced the US would withdraw from the Paris climate agreement found that bots tended to applaud the president for his actions and spread misinformation about the science. The study of Twitter bots and climate was undertaken by Brown University and has yet to be published. Bots are a type of software that can be directed to autonomously tweet, retweet, like or direct message on Twitter, under the guise of a human-fronted account. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/21/climate-tweets-twitter-bots-analysis This is important stuff. Why won't you respond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Was this thread too sophisticated and intuitive for Liberals? I'm pretty offended that no one has made an argument. We're not here to be drones, we're here to exchange opinions/ideas and to engage in healthy debates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Liberals, do you think Climate Change means imminent doom for the Earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegayscottsman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Patriot211289 said: Liberals, do you think Climate Change means imminent doom for the Earth? shut up..the world has a killer flu...it has a 2% mortality and a 25% infertility rate among men with ongoing side effects of renal nature..if it goes full blown the natural population decline will meet all carbon output desirability..the oil output drop alone already is in the wildest dream of any climate activist..one wonders if this was design...it means the pollutter can carry on and keep the $$$ elite monopoly...incidently three hotspits without Chinese vectors including IRAN..knowing U.s history of ecperimentation on black americans citizens in bioweaponary and elsewere ,,i would not rule out the U>S as culpable in crimes upon humanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 48 minutes ago, IvanSirko said: shut up..the world has a killer flu...it has a 2% mortality and a 25% infertility rate among men with ongoing side effects of renal nature..if it goes full blown the natural population decline will meet all carbon output desirability..the oil output drop alone already is in the wildest dream of any climate activist..one wonders if this was design...it means the pollutter can carry on and keep the $$$ elite monopoly...incidently three hotspits without Chinese vectors including IRAN..knowing U.s history of ecperimentation on black americans citizens in bioweaponary and elsewere ,,i would not rule out the U>S as culpable in crimes upon humanity So the liberal solution to Climate Change is to kill people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegayscottsman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Patriot211289 said: So the liberal solution to Climate Change is to kill people? ah the american use of liberal is unique in the world,,i am a socialist ..in the rest of the world liberal politically means centre...i do not endorse killing people to make a climate difference only pointing out that it is a extreme right wing solution especially if they are of a certain ethnicity..as of this time most right wing do not WANT to see the solutions to climate change which may mean some solutions that could be seen as socialist rather than common sense..so a solution which keeps the order of extreme capitalistic order would appeal,,a sudden die out of lots of poor people would fit that bill....watch moonraker...james bond...how do you identify with the characters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Mack Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I saw a clip of Bernie the Bunyip pandering and saying...we need to do away with fossil fuels and the oil companies make to much $$$. The crowds went wild. The largest oil companies averaged a profit margin of around 6% a year. Profit margins vary by industries, but as a general rule of thumb, a 20% margin is considered high, a 10% net profit margin is considered average, and a 5% margin is low. I'll bet my bottom dollar Bernie rode away from that rally in a gas guzzling SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, IvanSirko said: ah the american use of liberal is unique in the world,,i am a socialist ..in the rest of the world liberal politically means centre...i do not endorse killing people to make a climate difference only pointing out that it is a extreme right wing solution especially if they are of a certain ethnicity..as of this time most right wing do not WANT to see the solutions to climate change which may mean some solutions that could be seen as socialist rather than common sense..so a solution which keeps the order of extreme capitalistic order would appeal,,a sudden die out of lots of poor people would fit that bill....watch moonraker...james bond...how do you identify with the characters... Isn't socialism destroying the EU's economy? And sorry but why is socialism appealing to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegayscottsman Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Patriot211289 said: Isn't socialism destroying the EU's economy? And sorry but why is socialism appealing to you? socialism was fine until the 2008 crash...although U.s style capitalism had everything to with the crash the benefactors politically were the billionaire architects of the crisis...that being said..all their promises are without fruition..as the historical lessons we have seen before..the pendulum swings hard .the left will fill the vacuum of ideas already the global austerity is bringing revolution one way or another,, the ponzi scheme is finished..long live bernie !!,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Old Mack said: I saw a clip of Bernie the Bunyip pandering and saying...we need to do away with fossil fuels and the oil companies make to much $$$. The crowds went wild. The largest oil companies averaged a profit margin of around 6% a year. Profit margins vary by industries, but as a general rule of thumb, a 20% margin is considered high, a 10% net profit margin is considered average, and a 5% margin is low. I'll bet my bottom dollar Bernie rode away from that rally in a gas guzzling SUV. Amen. Al Gore and AOC use private jets. Their carbon footprint FAR outweighs the average person. But Liberals are persuaded into paying Al Gore and AOC. Yes why we pick on oil companies makes no sense.The U.S. Postal Service needs and burns all that oil daily, and huge profits go right into the hands of government officials who "run" the postal service directly off of our money, but are we going stop the mail? So why stop oil companies? Liberals don't know how the world works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot211289 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, IvanSirko said: socialism was fine until the 2008 crash...although U.s style capitalism had everything to with the crash the benefactors politically were the billionaire architects of the crisis...that being said..all their promises are without fruition..as the historical lessons we have seen before..the pendulum swings hard .the left will fill the vacuum of ideas already the global austerity is bringing revolution one way or another,, the ponzi scheme is finished..long live bernie !!,, I suppose it's fair to say the U.S. and Europe are like apples and oranges. Politically we are very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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