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11 hours ago, personreal said:

Fine with me.

 

Sanders supported Castro...when Castro died he had $900,000,000 in his personal bank account.

 

Bernie also supported Venezuela...the daughter of the former socialist president is now worth $4.3 Billion.

 

Some kind of socialism eh.

 

 

That is how socialism works.  A few ultra rich oligarchs and the rest are poor as hell that scrape by every pitiful day on pennies given them by the oligarch.

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Just now, dontlooknow said:

I'm not endorsing anybody till things shake out a little bit. 

And if I was a union id wait also. It's smart. 

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9 hours ago, skews13 said:


Wrong again numb nuts. The only thing that will be gotten rid of are health insurance company middlemen, that take $600 billion per year for just being insurance companies. That give us subpar coverage for three times the cost, than every other industrialized country on the planet.

 

We need to take big bank, and big insurance out of healthcare. This frees up money that can now be paid to workers as wages.

 

One day when you grow up, and acquire thinking skills, you may discover this. But I’m not holding out much hope in your case.

In socialism they take all the middlemen money and give it (not to the worker) but to the fat cat oligarchs.  Who hire armies to protect them from the workers that they promised everything to get them to power.  So no, don't bother telling me of the wonderful notions of the worker being taken care of by bernie.  The worker is just a tool to get him to power.  Remember he is a millionaire now and he will do everything in his power to stay rich and famous.  Even if it means he has to screw the people that got him there.

 

Trump on the other had is helping the very people that bernie says he wants to help.  The rise in jobs, and the rise in wages is starting to make a difference.  If you were to cooperate with Trump, wages would naturally rise to your $15 per hour rate.  That is because there will be a natural reason for employers to pay good workers more, because they are making more and everyone raises up together, the rich and the poor.  That is whats happening in Trumps economy.  Get on board and lets all realize the benefits of good capitalism and show the world how to be really happy.

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4 hours ago, 123urout said:

They should switch, they didnt do well at all when Ovomit terrorized America for 8 years.I used to work at 5 factories that closed during Ovomit, All unionized. The idiots that supported Ovomit were all with out jobs because of their own ignorance.The chief steward who is always the last to go, wasnt the the last one to go, I was.I kind of enjoyed asking them "How did that work out for ya?".There was a union poster that had Obamas picture on it That was always on the union office door...IDIOTS!

Ignor(e)nce doesn't pay dividends.

 

Will the left ever learn?

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36 minutes ago, Old Mack said:

 

If the DEMs lose the Unions they'll be missing a big chuck !

 

I think when we spread your wealth around, it’s good for everybody except you."

 

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Carpenter Joe knew.

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22 minutes ago, benhur said:

That is how socialism works.  A few ultra rich oligarchs and the rest are poor as hell that scrape by every pitiful day on pennies given them by the oligarch.

Bingo!

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5 hours ago, SpyCar said:

Stopping Sanders is a priority of all real Demorats.

 

Bill

Hilarious.  :lol:  The DNC must not be "real Democrats" then....because they let him run on the Democratic ticket.  

 

The only people who have any business "stopping" Bernie (or anyone else) are the voters.  Let the people select our nominee.

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32 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

Hilarious.  :lol:  The DNC must not be "real Democrats" then....because they let him run on the Democratic ticket.  

 

The only people who have any business "stopping" Bernie (or anyone else) are the voters.  Let the people select our nominee.

Wait until the establishment steals the nomination, AGAIN. 😂

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43 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

Hilarious.  :lol:  The DNC must not be "real Democrats" then....because they let him run on the Democratic ticket.  

 

The only people who have any business "stopping" Bernie (or anyone else) are the voters.  Let the people select our nominee.

 

Democrats, not infiltrators, not Trump-enablers, not cultist anti-liberals, not communists, not dark money violators of campaign finance laws, not political dirty tricksters--but DEMOCRATS will decide the nominee of our party. Not you. 

 

You have no business voting in our primary. Cheater.

 

Bill

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On 2/14/2020 at 6:57 AM, personreal said:

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Will the Dems Lose the Unions?

 

 

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Not likely, Pizza-Face....

 

Trump’s "Blue Collar Boom"; More Of A BUST!!

February 7, 2020

 

"If you actually thought workers’ hourly pay was finally rising, think again.

 

At first glance, the latest data – which came out on Feb. 7 – look pretty good. They show nominal hourly earnings rose 3.1% in January from a year earlier.

 

But the operative word here is nominal, which means not adjusted for changes in the cost of living. Once you factor in inflation, the picture changes drastically. And far from representing a “blue collar boom” – as the president put it in his State of the Union address – the real, inflation-adjusted data show most U.S. workers have not benefited from the growing economy.

 

As an economist who studies wage data, I think it’s paramount that we take a step back and look at what the data really shows."

 

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Trump Quietly Slashed Pay Raise For Federal Workers,

Before Claiming U.S. Economy Best "In History"

February 12, 2020

 

"In a move that drew outrage from labor unions and progressives, Donald Trump this week quietly took steps to slash a scheduled pay raise for millions of federal workers from 2.5% to 1% due to supposed concerns about “keeping the nation on a fiscally sustainable course.”

 

Slate‘s Elliot Hannon wrote Wednesday that “cutting the 2.5% raise set for 2021 to 1% for millions of federal workers seems a bit austere in the face of such self-proclaimed boom times.”

 

“Even more absurdly, Trump is justifying ordering the cut on the grounds that the country is in the midst of a ‘national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare,’ which the White House says authorizes the president to ‘implement alternative plans for pay adjustments,'” Hannon added.

 

“So which is it? The best economy in the history of economies or a national economic emergency? Either way, somebodys lying.”

 

 

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On 2/15/2020 at 12:52 AM, SpyCar said:

Democrats, not infiltrators, not Trump-enablers, not cultist anti-liberals, not communists, not dark money violators of campaign finance laws, not political dirty tricksters--but DEMOCRATS will decide the nominee of our party. Not you. 

I'm a registered Democrat, sparky.  :)  It's real, it's legal, and it's something you should be celebrating.  Although I understand you're not big on the 'big tent' concept.  Problem is, you're not going to win with a bunch of corporation-loving centrists.  Your tent needs more voters.  Don't go repeating your mistakes of the past.

 

On 2/15/2020 at 12:52 AM, SpyCar said:

You have no business voting in our primary. Cheater.

 

Bill

There was no "cheating" involved.  I've followed every law for my state.  Wouldja like me to post them fore you?  :huh:  I'm as much of a Democrat as you are right now.  Now instead of robotically trolling my every post here, let's work together to defeat President Cheeto.  

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On 2/14/2020 at 7:08 PM, personreal said:

Carpenter Joe knew.

 

He was a plumber shlt for brains. And the latest poll in Nevada has Bernie in the lead.

 

You are undoubtedly the most ignorant troll on NHB, and that's saying something considering the number of you losers on the board.

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1 minute ago, skews13 said:

 

He was a plumber shlt for brains. And the latest poll in Nevada has Bernie in the lead.

 

You are undoubtedly the most ignorant troll on NHB, and that's saying something considering the number of you losers on the board.

Which proves what you think about a working man.

 

BTW...I worked yer ole lady over big time...she cried for more.   😆

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2 hours ago, RollingRock said:

I'm a registered Democrat, sparky.  :)  It's real, it's legal, and it's something you should be celebrating.  Although I understand you're not big on the 'big tent' concept.  Problem is, you're not going to win with a bunch of corporation-loving centrists.  Your tent needs more voters.  Don't go repeating your mistakes of the past.

 

There was no "cheating" involved.  I've followed every law for my state.  Wouldja like me to post them fore you?  :huh:  I'm as much of a Democrat as you are right now.  Now instead of robotically trolling my every post here, let's work together to defeat President Cheeto.  

 

I should be "celebrating" having an assassin in the tent? Bwaahaahaa.

 

You are temporarily pretending to be a "Democrat" so you can vote for your cult leader. You will walk away when he fails to get the nomination.

 

People who walk away are not part of a coalition or a "big tent." They are simply saboteurs and 5th columnists. You have earned zero trust. None.

 

You are NOT a Democrat. "President Cheeto" would not be president today if not for your moronic cult.

 

I except you all to do the same in 2020. If you "surprise" me, great. I'm not counting on it.

 

Bill  

 

 

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15 hours ago, SpyCar said:

I should be "celebrating" having an assassin in the tent? Bwaahaahaa.

Certainly not.  I'm no "assassin."  I want a president who is going to work for the American people (not for big banks, insurance companies, or lobbyists).  That's what most people want.

 

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You are temporarily pretending to be a "Democrat" so you can vote for your cult leader. You will walk away when he fails to get the nomination.

I'm not "pretending," there is no "cult," and I'll stay as long as we get a president that represents most of my values.

 

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People who walk away are not part of a coalition or a "big tent." They are simply saboteurs and 5th columnists. You have earned zero trust. None.

I don't care what you think of me.  You're clearly paranoid, elitist scum.  However you should be celebrating having extra votes within the party.  Because you corporate Dems aren't going to win without help from the far left.

 

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You are NOT a Democrat.

I am a Democrat.  :)  

 

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"President Cheeto" would not be president today if not for my moronic cult.

That's correct.  If you hadn't foisted a lousy candidate on the electorate, Cheeto would not be in office.  The voters didn't like Hillary.

 

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I except you all to do the same in 2020. If you "surprise" me, great. I'm not counting on it.

 

Bill  

You're a paranoid wreck.  Go see your psychiatrist.

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On 2/14/2020 at 10:05 PM, RollingRock said:

Hilarious.  :lol:  The DNC must not be "real Democrats" then....because they let him run on the Democratic ticket.  

 

The only people who have any business "stopping" Bernie (or anyone else) are the voters.  Let the people select our nominee.

Your dem primaries are rigged to the hilt.  If the voters want bernie, but the dems don't, the voters won't get bernie.  It is just that simple.  For example.  the dems have changed a lot of the rules to allow bloomburp to get into the race and the debates.  Why?   Because bidey is losing his hold on his campaign and the moderate lane of the candidates.

 

The dems are getting a little scared about that and have moved bloomburp into position to take the (so-called) moderate lane.  This is because bernie is winning primaries and the dems don't think he is right for the general election having such a russian background and communistic tendencies.  They are right, he will not win in America as it stands today.  Lots of dems will stay home, especially blacks and latinos.  

 

So watch for the super delegates to vote against him and for a more moderate candidate to go up against Trump.  If this happens though and they screw bernie agains, this time he has nothing to lose, (because this is his last horray),  but to blow up the entire dem party and make ruins of it.

 

So good luck with bernie.

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55 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

Certainly not.  I'm no "assassin."  I want a president who is going to work for the American people (not for big banks, insurance companies, or lobbyists).  That's what most people want.

 

I'm not "pretending," there is no "cult," and I'll stay as long as we get a president that represents most of my values.

 

I don't care what you think of me.  You're clearly paranoid, elitist scum.  However you should be celebrating having extra votes within the party.  Because you corporate Dems aren't going to win without help from the far left.

 

I am a Democrat.  :)  

 

That's correct.  If you hadn't foisted a lousy candidate on the electorate, Cheeto would not be in office.  The voters didn't like Hillary.

 

You're a paranoid wreck.  Go see your psychiatrist.

Franklin was a great guy who talked a great talk, but when it came after the election, he did pretty much just the opposite of what he campaigned on.  If you want to follow a man that is actually helping the poor class, look at what Trump is doing with his inner city investment centers.  Trump has also done things that allows employers to increase the least paid persons wages for the first time in 20 years.    

 

You just need to take off your Trump blinders and notice why blacks and latinos are continuing to make their journey out of dems and into the Republican party.  Trump and his policies are working for them.  Now if the dems would cooperate, more money could go to the least paid group, and more freedom and better living could exist for all.  

 

For every illegal immigrant that comes into our country and gets a job under the table, that means lower numbers of jobs, and lower wages for our poorer citizens.  

 

Dems do not care about low wage earners, they are more interested in the voting illegal aliens.  Why do you think they take care of the illegal aliens?  It is only for their vote.  Most poorer blacks and hispanics are starting to see the dems mistake and are coming over to Trump, who wants to help them and not the illegal alien.

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7 minutes ago, benhur said:

You just need to take off your Trump blinders and notice why blacks and latinos are continuing to make their journey out of dems and into the Republican party.  Trump and his policies are working for them.  Now if the dems would cooperate, more money could go to the least paid group, and more freedom and better living could exist for all.  

I have no "blinders" with Trump.  He is the most corrupt, dishonest, vindictive, petty, racist, misogynistic president in US history.  I would liquidate everything I own and leave this country before I would ever vote for that orange pile of feces.

 

7 minutes ago, benhur said:

For every illegal immigrant that comes into our country and gets a job under the table, that means lower numbers of jobs, and lower wages for our poorer citizens.  

I welcome immigrants as well as an expedited and streamlined pathway to citizenship.

 

7 minutes ago, benhur said:

Dems do not care about low wage earners

 

 

7 minutes ago, benhur said:

, they are more interested in the voting illegal aliens. 

Undocumented people can't vote.  See someone about your hallucinations.

 

7 minutes ago, benhur said:

Why do you think they take care of the illegal aliens?  It is only for their vote.  Most poorer blacks and hispanics are starting to see the dems mistake and are coming over to Trump, who wants to help them and not the illegal alien.

Again, one has to be a citizen to vote in the presidential election.  You've been watching too much Lou Dobbs and Hannity.  Please reacquaint  yourself with reality.  Undocumented people aren't allowed to vote in national elections.

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2 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

 

I have no "blinders" with Trump.  He is the most corrupt, dishonest, vindictive, petty, racist, misogynistic president in US history.  I would liquidate everything I own and leave this country before I would ever vote for that orange pile of feces.

 

I welcome immigrants as well as an expedited and streamlined pathway to citizenship.

 

 

 

Undocumented people can't vote.  See someone about your hallucinations.

 

Again, one has to be a citizen to vote in the presidential election.  You've been watching too much Lou Dobbs and Hannity.  Please reacquaint  yourself with reality.  Undocumented people aren't allowed to vote in national elections.

But they still do via voter fraud.   Please reacquaint  yourself with reality. 

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1 hour ago, RollingRock said:

Certainly not.  I'm no "assassin."  I want a president who is going to work for the American people (not for big banks, insurance companies, or lobbyists).  That's what most people want.

 

I'm not "pretending," there is no "cult," and I'll stay as long as we get a president that represents most of my values.

 

I don't care what you think of me.  You're clearly paranoid, elitist scum.  However you should be celebrating having extra votes within the party.  Because you corporate Dems aren't going to win without help from the far left.

 

I am a Democrat.  :)  

 

That's correct.  If you hadn't foisted a lousy candidate on the electorate, Cheeto would not be in office.  The voters didn't like Hillary.

 

You're a paranoid wreck.  Go see your psychiatrist.

 

Bullshit man. You want to destroy liberal democracy and to install a communist. That's your line, why not be honest?

 

Sanders doesn't "work" for anyone but himself. He would not even "work" to support his own love-child. He forced his son to grow up on welfare.

 

Why the hell do you believe this con-man?

 

You have the world's worst political judgment.

 

Sanders has no real plans. Can't say what they would cost. And has no was to get them passed. He has alienated almost everyone in Congress. No one likes him (except a few "squad members" and even AOC says there is no way MFA would pass and we'd be lucky to get a public option--which is correct).

 

But your cult berned down the party in 2016 and will likely do it again when Sanders isn't the nominee.

 

HRC is a great liberal Democrat and would have been an excellent president. Your stupidity got us Donald J Trump. Moron.

 

Bill

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, benhur said:

Your dem primaries are rigged to the hilt.  If the voters want bernie, but the dems don't, the voters won't get bernie.  It is just that simple.  For example.  the dems have changed a lot of the rules to allow bloomburp to get into the race and the debates.  Why?   Because bidey is losing his hold on his campaign and the moderate lane of the candidates.

 

The dems are getting a little scared about that and have moved bloomburp into position to take the (so-called) moderate lane.  This is because bernie is winning primaries and the dems don't think he is right for the general election having such a russian background and communistic tendencies.  They are right, he will not win in America as it stands today.  Lots of dems will stay home, especially blacks and latinos.  

 

So watch for the super delegates to vote against him and for a more moderate candidate to go up against Trump.  If this happens though and they screw bernie agains, this time he has nothing to lose, (because this is his last horray),  but to blow up the entire dem party and make ruins of it.

 

So good luck with bernie.

 

^^^ Russian Troll Farm.

 

It worked once. Trying for a repeat?

 

The cult of BS is really dangerous and moronic. Might work.

 

Bill

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5 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

Bullcrap man. You want to destroy liberal democracy and to install a communist. That's your line, why not be honest?

No, I love liberal democracy.  You love  plutocracy.  THAT is what needs to go.

 

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Sanders has no real plans. Can't say what they would cost. And has no was to get them passed. He has alienated almost everyone in Congress. No one likes him (except a few "squad members" and even AOC says there is no way MFA would pass and we'd be lucky to get a public option--which is correct).

The public option doesn't help those who desperately need help.

 

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HRC is a great liberal Democrat and would have been an excellent president. Your stupidity got us Donald J Trump. Moron.

 

Bill

Hillary's a centrist and a plutocrat who took hundreds of millions from big banks, big insurance, and big pharma.  She would have fought for Goldman Sachs, CIGNA, and Pfizer.....not the poor man making $12/hour with a $7,500 annual deductible.

 

Your lousy candidate got us Donald Trump.  Many people told you people wouldn't vote for her - you didn't listen.

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