leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Answer-of-President-Donald-J.-Trump.pdf Donald Trump’s legal team has delivered a fiery response to impeachment summons from the Senate, calling the two articles passed by the House “a dangerous attack on the right of the American people to freely choose their president”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/18/donald-trump-lawyers-senate-impeachment-democrats-dershowitz-giuliani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck615 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 NOT REMOVED FROM OFFICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, leftwinger said: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Answer-of-President-Donald-J.-Trump.pdf Donald Trump’s legal team has delivered a fiery response to impeachment summons from the Senate, calling the two articles passed by the House “a dangerous attack on the right of the American people to freely choose their president”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/18/donald-trump-lawyers-senate-impeachment-democrats-dershowitz-giuliani They're right. 3 years of investigating Trump and you couldn't find a law he broke. But you impeached him anyway, rendering impeachment meaningless. Now every President can be impeached by a House run by the political opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Golfboy said: Now every President can be impeached by a House run by the political opposition. That's what the Constitution says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, leftwinger said: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Answer-of-President-Donald-J.-Trump.pdf Donald Trump’s legal team has delivered a fiery response to impeachment summons from the Senate, calling the two articles passed by the House “a dangerous attack on the right of the American people to freely choose their president”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/18/donald-trump-lawyers-senate-impeachment-democrats-dershowitz-giuliani Very true. Democrats are certainly a threat to democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConvict Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, leftwinger said: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Answer-of-President-Donald-J.-Trump.pdf Donald Trump’s legal team has delivered a fiery response to impeachment summons from the Senate, calling the two articles passed by the House “a dangerous attack on the right of the American people to freely choose their president”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/18/donald-trump-lawyers-senate-impeachment-democrats-dershowitz-giuliani Warned you his defense is going to be the request was valid and the house has no right to demand anything from the executive. They can ask nicely. If told no they can go to the judiciary. For the good of America this sham should be stopped as soon as possible. That said, I'm hoping for witnesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, NeoConvict said: Warned you his defense is going to be the request was valid and the house has no right to demand anything from the executive. Why he was impeached. Please keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Mack Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, leftwinger said: That's what the Constitution says. ultraliberals think it is a Constitutional right to kill babies in the womb BUT I can't find it anywhere. And I have read the Constitution a dozen times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, leftwinger said: That's what the Constitution says. Everyone until Pelosi resisted impeaching a president for political reasons. Pelosi couldn't even find a crime, but that didn't stop her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, Golfboy said: Everyone until Pelosi resisted impeaching a president for political reasons. Pelosi couldn't even find a crime, but that didn't stop her. Johnson got impeached for political reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivaw Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, NeoConvict said: Warned you his defense is going to be the request was valid and the house has no right to demand anything from the executive. They can ask nicely. If told no they can go to the judiciary. For the good of America this sham should be stopped as soon as possible. That said, I'm hoping for witnesses. That’s not how it works. The executive branch is powerful but most of its power is granted by the legislative branch. The legislative branch has the authority to demand information from the executive. It’s settles law. There is no need to go to the judicial branch for a ruling. The judicial branch has ruled on this many times and almost always rules in favor of the legislative branch. The law is clear. The precedent is clear. Trump’s refusal to comply with congressional subpoenas is unlawful. It forms the basis of the second article of impeachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 The managers’ filing repeated many of the same arguments they laid out last fall in a report on the findings of their two-month impeachment inquiry. But it also indicated that they intended to make use of information that has come to light since the House’s impeachment vote in December. They cited new documentary records handed over by Lev Parnas, an associate of the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, about the pressure campaign on Ukraine, and a Government Accountability Office report released this week that found that Mr. Trump violated the law when he withheld the military aid. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/us/politics/house-trump-impeachment.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelGator Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Olivaw said: That’s not how it works. The executive branch is powerful but most of its power is granted by the legislative branch. The legislative branch has the authority to demand information from the executive. It’s settles law. There is no need to go to the judicial branch for a ruling. The judicial branch has ruled on this many times and almost always rules in favor of the legislative branch. The law is clear. The precedent is clear. Trump’s refusal to comply with congressional subpoenas is unlawful. It forms the basis of the second article of impeachment. .....says the sniveling malcontent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, leftwinger said: Johnson got impeached for political reasons. So, they didn't impeach him for violating the Tenure of Office Act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, leftwinger said: The managers’ filing repeated many of the same arguments they laid out last fall in a report on the findings of their two-month impeachment inquiry. But it also indicated that they intended to make use of information that has come to light since the House’s impeachment vote in December. They cited new documentary records handed over by Lev Parnas, an associate of the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, about the pressure campaign on Ukraine, and a Government Accountability Office report released this week that found that Mr. Trump violated the law when he withheld the military aid. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/us/politics/house-trump-impeachment.html GAO has no authority to declare any law was broken, and it wasn't. The ONLY deadline was that the money had to be disbursed by the end of the Fiscal Year, which it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Olivaw said: That’s not how it works. The executive branch is powerful but most of its power is granted by the legislative branch. The legislative branch has the authority to demand information from the executive. It’s settles law. There is no need to go to the judicial branch for a ruling. The judicial branch has ruled on this many times and almost always rules in favor of the legislative branch. The law is clear. The precedent is clear. Trump’s refusal to comply with congressional subpoenas is unlawful. It forms the basis of the second article of impeachment. lol. First this rocket scientist says there is no need for a judicial branch ruling, then says "almost always rules in favor of legislative branch". SCOTUS has ruled the President has Executive Privilege. SCOTUS granted certiorari, by acctiping review of a case where Trump challenged a congressional subpoena. This rendered Impeachment Article 2, moot. It's hilarous that liberals think the President exercising his constitutional rights of going to the courts is an impeachable offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConvict Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 12 hours ago, leftwinger said: Johnson got impeached for political reasons. And acquitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, NeoConvict said: And acquitted. yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConvict Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Golfboy said: lol. First this rocket scientist says there is no need for a judicial branch ruling, then says "almost always rules in favor of legislative branch". SCOTUS has ruled the President has Executive Privilege. SCOTUS granted certiorari, by acctiping review of a case where Trump challenged a congressional subpoena. This rendered Impeachment Article 2, moot. It's hilarous that liberals think the President exercising his constitutional rights of going to the courts is an impeachable offense. OBSTRUCTION!!! Kind of a bad precedent. Any time the house disagrees with the president, it's impeachable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, NeoConvict said: OBSTRUCTION!!! Kind of a bad precedent. Any time the house disagrees with the president, it's impeachable? Nothing you say is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of the county Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 12 hour days in senate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 Schiff was surprised that the White House document did not attempt to rebut the case on its facts, he said on Sunday on ABC News’ This Week. “It’s surprising in that it really doesn’t offer much new beyond the failed arguments we heard in the House,” Schiff said. “The facts aren’t seriously contested.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/19/donald-trump-impeachment-democrats-republicans-senate-trial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelGator Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, leftwinger said: Schiff was surprised that the White House document did not attempt to rebut the case on its facts, he said on Sunday on ABC News’ This Week. “It’s surprising in that it really doesn’t offer much new beyond the failed arguments we heard in the House,” Schiff said. “The facts aren’t seriously contested.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/19/donald-trump-impeachment-democrats-republicans-senate-trial "I'm really 5' 6" tall in my platform shoes" Why did you leave that part out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConvict Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, leftwinger said: Schiff was surprised that the White House document did not attempt to rebut the case on its facts, he said on Sunday on ABC News’ This Week. “It’s surprising in that it really doesn’t offer much new beyond the failed arguments we heard in the House,” Schiff said. “The facts aren’t seriously contested.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/19/donald-trump-impeachment-democrats-republicans-senate-trial How is a uniform declaration of innocence not a factual rebuttal? He is saying he pressured Ukraine to investigate the unholy relationship between a corrupt Ukraine oil company and the second most powerful man in the world. He's saying he was well within his power to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwinger Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, NeoConvict said: He is saying he pressured Ukraine to investigate the unholy relationship between a corrupt Ukraine oil company and the second most powerful man in the world. tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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