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"For example, justice is held to be equality, and it is, but for equals and not for all; and inequality is held to be just and is indeed, but for unequal's and not for all; but they disregard this element of persons and judge badly." - Aristotle Chapter 9 Book 3 Politics 

 

I am currently in a Class in college breaking down and discussing the book Politics by Aristotle. He mentions this quote above if he understand this concept all the way back in 4th Century B.C, then why are people still so ignorant to this day. It really shows how we are built as a society. People need to understand that equality is one of the essential aspects of our society and if it is not fulfilled then we will all feel these effects as we currently are as a nation. 

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I like Aristotle. I think would vote for him the the primary, if he were on the ballot..

 

He was no friend of the rich and powerful. This makes him an inspiration to modern left-leaning progressives, who place equality and social justice at the heart of the political struggle.

 

 “the truly democratic statesman must study how the multitude may be saved from extreme poverty”

 

Aristotle was, it can fairly be said, a democratic socialist two thousand years before this economic doctrine was established.

 

“measures must be contrived that bring about lasting prosperity for all”

 

He was willing to advocate the redistribution of wealth on the grounds that this would be better for the state and the nation as a whole. He even spelled out how this could be done:

 

 “The proper course is to collect all the proceeds of the revenue into a fund and distribute this in lump sums.”

 

He had a policy that suggested how the needy should be “supplied with capital to start them in business”, and adamant that redistribution and state intervention not only benefitted the poor, but that this was “advantageous also for the well-to-do”

 

Aristotle was always clear that “money was brought into existence for the purpose of exchange” and not as an end in itself.

He famously made a distinction between oikonomia – “the art of household management” and kremastike – “the art of getting rich”.

 

In a perhaps prescient comment on the dangers of deregulation, he wrote:

the first among the indispensable services [rendered by a state] is the superintendence of the market”

 

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15 hours ago, ExPDXer said:

I like Aristotle. I think would vote for him the the primary, if he were on the ballot..

 

He was no friend of the rich and powerful. This makes him an inspiration to modern left-leaning progressives, who place equality and social justice at the heart of the political struggle.

 

 “the truly democratic statesman must study how the multitude may be saved from extreme poverty”

 

Aristotle was, it can fairly be said, a democratic socialist two thousand years before this economic doctrine was established.

 

“measures must be contrived that bring about lasting prosperity for all”

 

He was willing to advocate the redistribution of wealth on the grounds that this would be better for the state and the nation as a whole. He even spelled out how this could be done:

 

 “The proper course is to collect all the proceeds of the revenue into a fund and distribute this in lump sums.”

 

He had a policy that suggested how the needy should be “supplied with capital to start them in business”, and adamant that redistribution and state intervention not only benefitted the poor, but that this was “advantageous also for the well-to-do”

 

Aristotle was always clear that “money was brought into existence for the purpose of exchange” and not as an end in itself.

He famously made a distinction between oikonomia – “the art of household management” and kremastike – “the art of getting rich”.

 

In a perhaps prescient comment on the dangers of deregulation, he wrote:

the first among the indispensable services [rendered by a state] is the superintendence of the market”

 

 

Yes I agree with you on all of these points. He would be a Democratic Socialist if in today terms. 

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Make it a better world. Make education the jewel. Tie in the truth about history, history and the way it has been taught in the US in the twentieth century and even now, is a big problem.

We transmit a lot of half - truthful, foolish ideas regarding philosophy, whether they be fully understood, and whether we know where their ideals or how doctrine of such thought originated.

 

Utilitarianism. If you came to me and said, if you would give up a finger to solve climate change, I would rejoice and say yes. take my finger. If they said, we need your arm. Again, I would say yes. If they said we need your life, I would still say yes, a million times over. If they said we need the lives of your whole family, I would start to question such. If they said we need the lives of a hundred thousand people, I would definitely say no.

 

But we seem to live in such a guileless world, one that is seemingly innocent through no fault of our own. Some don't seem to understand hundreds of years of slavery, or even, thousands of years of persecution. 

 

The bible takes you through only a tiny realm of history, and it's humanity is befit with a whole host of human depravity. Philosophy is not a single snapshot in time since sacrifice and suffering has plagued human kind throughout all human history, and with most of it humankind's own making - to be fully accurate about historical accounts - is that true?

 

Problems could be abated, if it were not for lack of proper education. If it were not for racism and exploitation of others and down right fear that says we must act against those who would

act against us, first - and just to be safe.

 

No, you just cannot use science and act fully on the truth without worrying that someone out there is going to take you down. We build prisons instead of great schools. And we spend a great percentage of our tax dollars for a lot more than defending our shores. The US, btw, has Mexico to the South, and Canada to the North, and two oceans that separate it from the East and the West. 

 

We are of Western thought mostly, but more and more we have diversity which we should all deeply appreciate. 

 

Make it a better world - that searches for the good. In Shintoism, the good and the bad exists in all things, I think, I don't know truly, but it's worth a thought.

 

 

Peace! 

 

 

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