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Will Franklin:

 

Biden votes as a corporate toady warmonger all his life and thinks he will not lose just like Hilary.

 

NAFTA, Iraq War, Bankruptcy Bill, cuts to entitlements proposed by Biden in the Senate, yet we are supposed to vote for that? Not even me in purple NC.

 

I am going to research and post these details now.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/477059-sanders-unloads-on-biden-as-battle-for-iowa-intensifies

 

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) unloaded on former Vice President Joe Biden on Monday night, intensifying a battle between two top contenders for the Democratic nomination with the Iowa caucuses less than a month away.

 

In an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Sanders attacked Biden’s record on foreign policy, trade and entitlements and questioned Biden’s electability in key Midwestern states. 

The new attacks come just 28 days before the Iowa caucuses.

 

Polling has been sparse in recent weeks, but both Biden and Sanders look strong in the final stretch, with polls finding them jockeying for a top finish alongside former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).

 

On Monday night, Sanders ripped Biden for voting to authorize military action in Iraq in 2002. Sanders voted against the measure.

 

“Joe Biden voted and helped lead the effort for the war in Iraq, the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in the modern history of this country,” Sanders said.

 

That issue has come to the forefront of the Democratic primary in recent days after President Trump ordered a military strike that killed a top Iranian military commander. A CNN poll from late November found Biden with a 34-point lead over his closest rival on the question of who Democratic voters trust the most on foreign policy.

 

Sanders also ripped Biden for voting for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying that deal had cost the U.S. “millions of jobs.”

 

The electability argument has been central to Biden’s pitch, but Sanders argued that Biden’s record on trade would make him unelectable in the key battlegrounds that Democrats must win back to take the White House.

 

“Do you think that’s going to play well in Michigan, Wisconsin or Pennsylvania?” Sanders asked.

Sanders is also looking to cut into Biden’s big lead among older voters, and on Monday night he accused Biden of supporting cuts to entitlement programs that many seniors rely on.

 

“Joe Biden has been on the floor of the Senate talking about the need to cut Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid,” Sanders said.

 

And Sanders accused Biden of pushing “a bankruptcy bill that has caused enormous problems for working families.”

 

Warren has also clashed with Biden over his support for a 2005 bankruptcy bill that critics said favored the credit card companies.

 

Some centrist Democrats have become alarmed by Sanders’s aggressive tone in the stretch run to Iowa and are pointing to remarks he made on Sunday about how he had not attacked his rivals.

 

“You have not heard me disparage any of the candidates. Do you? I don’t,” Sanders said.

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Let's start with NAFTA.

 

Biden was a YES!

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-14/biden-s-nafta-vote-is-a-liability-in-the-rust-belt

 

Joe Biden has emerged as the Democratic front-runner thanks to a perception that his working-class roots and chummy relations with labor leaders make him the likeliest candidate to take back the Upper Midwest and beat Donald Trump. But that scenario is complicated by the former vice president’s decades-long record of backing free-trade deals that have helped hollow out the manufacturing core in several important electoral states.

 
 

From his support for the North American Free Trade Agreement as a Delaware senator to his backing of the Trans-Pacific Partnership as Barack Obama’s vice president, Biden played a key role over the last 30 years in advancing a trade agenda that’s now being reassessed by many experts and early proponents as its costs, including job losses, are becoming clearer.

 
 
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Biden’s record on trade is already drawing attacks from the left and right. Besides Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, a former House member, Biden is the only one of the 22 Democrats running for president who voted for Nafta. The 1993 pact reduced barriers with Mexico and Canada, increasing trade and economic growth in all three countries. But it also led to an exodus of U.S. manufacturing jobs to Mexico and hurt wages for U.S. workers who held on to their jobs. Throughout the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump pilloried Nafta as a “disaster” and “the worst trade deal ever,” a message his top advisers believe was pivotal in helping him carry critical Rust Belt states once considered Democratic strongholds.

 
 

“Nafta still resonates in the industrial Midwest and Rust Belt,” says Stanley Greenberg, a veteran Democratic pollster who recently conducted focus groups on trade in Michigan and Wisconsin. “There’s still a lot of anger because it symbolizes, for many people, the indifference about the outsourcing of jobs and the favoring of elite economic interests in international trade agreements.”

 

Just as with issues of criminal justice, busing, and his behavior toward women, Biden’s record on trade has left him vulnerable to shifts in voters’ attitudes, as the long-term effects of U.S. policies have become apparent.

 
 

Since Biden declared his candidacy on April 25, his most vocal critics on trade have been on the left. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who voted against Nafta as a congressman and is aiming to appeal to the same voters in the Upper Midwest, has repeatedly highlighted Biden’s history on trade. “It’s no secret that the most likely path to victory for Democrats in 2020 is to win the states Hillary Clinton won and then to add Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania,” says Jeff Weaver, a senior adviser to the Sanders campaign. “Nafta devastated all three of those states. That will be litigated in the Democratic primary—as it should be, because it will certainly be litigated in the general election.”

Other Democratic candidates are also likely to weigh in, reflecting the shift in sentiment against international trade deals within the party. In 2015, Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, who’s also running for president, spearheaded the effort to sideline the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the signature Obama-Biden trade initiative; she was so successful, even Clinton felt compelled to back away from it. Ohio Representative Tim Ryan, another presidential hopeful, has said, “There’s no question that over its 25-year history, Nafta has hurt American workers and industries.” On CNN last week, Ryan called a recent remark Biden had made downplaying the economic threat posed by China “stunningly out of touch.”

While most economists continue to assert the benefits of trade liberalization, a raft of recent scholarship has highlighted the fallout in U.S. industries hurt by the effects of globalization. One of the main drivers of job loss in the Upper Midwest was China’s emergence as a manufacturing superpower after it was admitted to the World Trade Organization in 2001, a move Biden and other Democrats supported.

An influential 2013 paper by economists David Autor, David Dorn, and Gordon Hanson found that exposure to Chinese trade competition was responsible for the loss of roughly 1 million U.S. manufacturing jobs between 2000 and 2007, many concentrated in regional industries such as the auto sector. Those findings were echoed in a 2016 paper, “The Surprisingly Swift Decline of U.S. Manufacturing Employment,” by Justin Pierce, a Federal Reserve economist, and Peter Schott, a professor at Yale School of Management, that linked China’s WTO entry to an 18% plunge in manufacturing jobs during the same period.

This displacement caused acute problems that continue to resonate. Many workers who lost their jobs struggled to find new ones or dropped out of the labor force altogether. “What we really gained a different appreciation of was how costly this was at the level of individuals and communities,” Autor said in 2017. Those costs extended beyond employment to encompass cultural and social effects, from a decline in family formation to an increase in the number of children living in poverty.

Although experts say factors such as technological advances and China’s evolution are bigger causes of workers’ dislocation, international trade deals have become the focal point of political wrath for those left behind. Democrats have been forced to adjust. Clinton’s pivot on TPP “was a big deal—a political reality that is in no small part demanded by the geography of the electoral college,” says Jared Bernstein, Biden’s chief economist in the White House and a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. “If you want to reach voters who feel left behind by globalization, you can’t tell them with a straight face, ‘Don’t worry, this new trade deal will be a lot better for you than the last one." 

In the wake of Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, Nafta in particular has for many voters come to symbolize everything they dislike about the globalized economy and the effects they see it having on their lives. During 2016, Greenberg’s polling tracked an intensifying, bipartisan negative attitude toward past trade deals that moved the country from a net positive view in the spring to a net negative view leading into Election Day. This trend upended the basic consensus in favor of trade liberalization that was prevalent when Biden cast his Nafta vote nearly 30 years ago.

“Trump has managed to convince much of the GOP and also bring many of the anti-trade Democrats into the fold,” says Maury Obstfeld, former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund and a professor at the University of California at Berkeley, who served in the Obama administration. “Now, if you look at both the major parties, there’s a prevailing skepticism. It’s been a remarkable shift in the political landscape.”

 
 

As he adjusts to the new politics of trade, Biden should have several things working in his favor. He has long been a popular figure among members of organized labor, and his father, grandfather, and uncle all worked at a General Motors plant in Delaware that shut down in 2009. Democrats’ desire for a nominee who can beat Trump is also working in his favor, at least for the moment. An April 30 Quinnipiac University poll found that 56% of Democrats say Biden has the best chance of defeating Trump next year.

While he’ll still have to defend his Nafta vote and other potentially troublesome stances, Biden can point to clear instances where he intervened to defend Midwest manufacturers, none more important than the Obama administration’s bailout of the auto companies during the 2008 financial crisis. “When I worked for Biden, he was constantly pushing me to find policies to help our manufacturers,” says Bernstein. “His support was instrumental in saving the auto industry, as well as in investing in manufacturers through tax credits and strengthening industrial unions.”

Strangely enough, Trump, who has done so much to toxify the politics of trade, may inadvertently help Biden overcome his apostasies. Trump has polarized public opinion on trade, causing Democrats to express a more favorable view toward free trade than in the past. A May 3 Marquette University Law School poll of Wisconsin voters found that more than three times as many Democrats say free trade is a “good thing” rather than a “bad thing” (66% vs. 19%), up sharply from the result in 2016 (48% vs. 36%). Independents and even Republicans also express moderately more favorable views.

 

“Trump’s amazing power to persuade is partly to bring his own party around to positions they didn’t hold before—tariffs is an example—but also to propel Democrats away from him, even if it means supporting free trade,” says Charles Franklin, the director of the Marquette poll. But he’s also skeptical that these results signify a true reassessment of Democrats’ feelings about trade and its effects. “I’m confident this is a reaction against Trump,” he says. The evidence: Asked about free-trade agreements, a large plurality of respondents still say they “cost”—rather than “create”—jobs.

“If Trump pushes the message that ‘Joe Biden voted to send your jobs to Mexico,’ there’s a good chance you’ll see a receptive audience,” Franklin says. “The trick for Biden will be playing up the positive economic value of free trade. He’ll have to walk a real tightrope to balance that with the effect on lost jobs.”

So far, Biden has said little about trade, choosing instead to signal his solidarity with workers by kicking off his presidential campaign at a Pittsburgh union hall, surrounded by firefighters. Despite his early stumble on China, his advisers say he’s prepared to weather attacks on his trade record, wherever they come from, and roll out a plan of his own. That will likely include calls for better worker and environmental protections—and a multilateral approach to getting tougher on China, to contrast with Trump’s volatile solo style.

But he’s standing by his Nafta vote. “Fair trade is important,” Biden told the Associated Press on Monday. “Not free trade. Fair trade. And I think that back in the time during the Clinton administration, it made sense at the moment.”

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Will Franklin:

 

Next is BANKRUPTCY law.

 

No sooner than I posted this thread, Warren proposes a reversal of Biden's DESTRUCTION!

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/07/warren-takes-shot-at-biden-with-new-bankruptcy-plan-095493

 

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) wants to make it easier for Americans to go through bankruptcy, unveiling a plan Tuesday that she cast as a way to reverse the damage wrought by a 2005 law championed by her presidential rival Joe Biden.

 

That law, which imposed new requirements on filing for personal bankruptcy and limited the kinds of debts that can be forgiven, “made the 2008 financial crisis significantly worse,” Warren wrote in a Medium post announcing her plan.

 

The plan would eliminate a means test included in the 15-year-old law that required people making more than their state’s median income to go through Chapter 13 bankruptcy, a longer and costlier process than Chapter 7.

 

Warren would replace the two chapters, giving distressed borrowers the chance to either surrender their property to have their debt discharged, along the lines of Chapter 7, or choose from a “menu of options” to restructure specific debts while continuing to pay down others outside bankruptcy.

 

Student loan debts would be dischargeable; under current law, those loans are only forgiven in cases where they are found to cause “undue hardship” for the borrower.

 

Filers who select a prepayment plan, meanwhile, would be able to set aside more money to cover normal costs under her proposal, which would also allow borrowers to modify their mortgages in bankruptcy. And the plan would eliminate the 2005 requirement that borrowers get pre-filing credit counseling.

 

 
Warren and Biden have long been at odds over bankruptcy. As a U.S. senator from Delaware, Biden was one of the marquee Democrats to support the 2005 Republican legislation meant to crack down on soaring bankruptcy rates.

 

Warren, then a Harvard law professor who made her name in bankruptcy law, had lobbied against the bill for years, arguing that lenders were at fault and borrowers shouldn’t be punished.

 

“I lost that fight in 2005, and working families paid the price,” Warren wrote Tuesday.

 

“There are still serious problems with our bankruptcy laws today, thanks in large part to that bad 2005 bill,” she added. “That’s why I’m announcing my plan to repeal the harmful provisions in the 2005 bankruptcy bill and overhaul consumer bankruptcy rules in this country to give Americans a better chance of getting back on their feet.”

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There is only one medical insurance coverage on the planet that will benefit everyone regardless of one's net worth is Single Payer Insurance that which all taxpayers pay for = nothing is free = encourages a healthier work force = no one will ever forced into bankruptcy again as a result of health care = all health care providers get paid = 24/7 coverage no matter what = EXCELLENT USE OF THE NATIONS TAX DOLLARS FOR A CHANGE! 

EVERYONE PAYS TAXES SOMEHOW THERE IS NO GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD!

So called Free Trade Agreements pull jobs out of USA communities thus pulls revenue from local economic growth thus raises taxes to cover loss of revenue normally created by people working which essentially makes Free Trade Agreements DUMB ECONOMICS!!!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tad_Devine

 

 

 

Internationally, Devine has worked as a strategist and media consultant for the winning campaigns of Colombian President Andres Pastrana in 1998, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak in 1999, Peruvian President Alejandro Toledo in 2001, Bolivian President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada in 2002, Irish Taoiseach Bertie Ahern in 1997, 2002 and 2007, Honduran President Mel Zelaya in 2005, and Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and the Party of Regions in 2006. Working closely with former Trump campaign manager, Paul Manafort (now a subject of the Mueller investigation of Trump's alleged coordination with Russia during his 2016 presidential campaign), Devine worked again with Yanukovych in 2009 and 2010 for his successful Presidential bid.[24] He served as a strategist and media consultant for Ashraf Ghani's 2009 presidential campaign in Afghanistan.[25]

 

 

 

 

Devine has worked as a strategist and media consultant for Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and the Party of Regions in 2006. Working closely with former Trump campaign manager, Paul Manafort (now a subject of the Mueller investigation of Trump's alleged coordination with Russia during his 2016 presidential campaign), Devine worked again with Yanukovych in 2009 and 2010 for his successful Presidential bid.

 

 

 

 

Paul Manaforts employee in the Ukraine

 

 

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Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign[edit]

Devine worked as chief campaign strategist for the Democratic primary campaign of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders from 2015 until its suspension in 2016.[22]

 

 

the Sander campaign was infiltrated by Russians in 2016

 

 

cold hard facts 

 

he was dumb enough to get TAKEN BY RUSSIAN Operatives 

 

 

and it now totally compromised by Russian assets

 

 

 

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I identified five hypothetical arguments suggesting that Sanders is the most electable candidate. He is currently at or near the top in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

His supporters are enthusiastic and will vote for him no matter what, which could lead to higher turnout for him in both the primary and general elections. Voters may care less about ideology than character, which could give Sanders an edge if he is perceived as compassionate and sincere in contrast to the opportunistic and shallow Trump. 

 

For that matter, Sanders' ideas aren't even that radical in the first place; they're basically an updated version of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which got him elected four times. https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

 Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Sanders has consistently led Trump in head-to-head polling in battleground states, and thus has a plausible Electoral College strategy. As a resident of one such state, Pennsylvania, I encounter this daily, at least on an anecdotal level.

 

"Conventional wisdom routinely fails to grasp the simmering anger that’s fueled by extreme income inequality,"  journalist Norman Solomon, co-founder and national coordinator of RootsAction.org and a Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic National Convention, told Salon by email. He was making what one could call the "populist wave" argument:

 

 More than mere fairness is at stake here. Donald Trump represents a grave danger to the United States and the world. His initiatives on global warming and immigration, his economic and foreignpolicies and his personal corruption are all existential threats to the survival of the free world, as well as severe moral crises for our country.

 

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

RICHARD NIXON ALSO PUSHED FOR SINGLE PAYER AS IS DID TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

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He hasa heart condition

 

 

he cant improve his black voter numbers 

 

 

He is now trashing a woman he made a pact  of solidarity with

 

hes trashing Biden with black voters 

 

 

 44% of them are already committed to Biden 

 

biden has virtually the same 15ish percent he could garner last go round 

 

 

Biden is who the black voters have chosen 

 

 

think about that for a minute 

 

 

 

Black American voters chose Biden over some very talented black choices 

 

 

 

The mass of Black American voters chose and OLD WHITE MAN over a some black candidates

 

 

Black American voters have done what the farging racists have claimed they would never do

 

 

They chose an old white man who WALKED THE WALK all his life and not just the blac candidate 

 

 

racists were dead wrong about Black voters huh

 

 

Im going with Biden 

 

Black voters know what they are doing 

 

 

they are rewarding a good man who loves them and all Americans 

 

 

the one that when he wins the WORLD WILL HEAVE A HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF AT HIS WIN

 

 

the world will KNOW what they are getting 

 

 

More Obama type policy and NO RUSSIAN INFLUENCE

 

 

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4 minutes ago, merrill said:

I identified five hypothetical arguments suggesting that Sanders is the most electable candidate. He is currently at or near the top in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

His supporters are enthusiastic and will vote for him no matter what, which could lead to higher turnout for him in both the primary and general elections. Voters may care less about ideology than character, which could give Sanders an edge if he is perceived as compassionate and sincere in contrast to the opportunistic and shallow Trump. 

 

For that matter, Sanders' ideas aren't even that radical in the first place; they're basically an updated version of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which got him elected four times. https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

 Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Sanders has consistently led Trump in head-to-head polling in battleground states, and thus has a plausible Electoral College strategy. As a resident of one such state, Pennsylvania, I encounter this daily, at least on an anecdotal level.

 

"Conventional wisdom routinely fails to grasp the simmering anger that’s fueled by extreme income inequality,"  journalist Norman Solomon, co-founder and national coordinator of RootsAction.org and a Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic National Convention, told Salon by email. He was making what one could call the "populist wave" argument:

 

 More than mere fairness is at stake here. Donald Trump represents a grave danger to the United States and the world. His initiatives on global warming and immigration, his economic and foreignpolicies and his personal corruption are all existential threats to the survival of the free world, as well as severe moral crises for our country.

 

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

RICHARD NIXON ALSO PUSHED FOR SINGLE PAYER AS IS DID TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

quess what 

 

 

 

YOU can ignore that Bernie is Russian compromised all you want

 

 

Its fact

 

 

cold hard documented fact right out of the INTEL  produced by 8 USA intel agencies and a congressional investigation

 

 

it happened 

 

 

and you can be sure the russians have everything on Bernie and they sharedit with the russianed up Republicans party 

 

 

the republicans will be itchingto use whatever the Russians have on him including his financial and political DEAL with a manifort step and fetch it Tad Devine

 

 

its reality 

 

 

cold hard fact 

 

Bernie is a BAD CHOICE

 

and if you continue to support him you are no better than the trumpites that cheered when trump said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue

 

 

you are denying cold hard FACTS because you love Bernie more than this nation and its best interests

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, evince said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tad_Devine

 

 

 

Internationally, Devine has worked as a strategist and media consultant for the winning campaigns of Colombian President Andres Pastrana in 1998, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak in 1999, Peruvian President Alejandro Toledo in 2001, Bolivian President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada in 2002, Irish Taoiseach Bertie Ahern in 1997, 2002 and 2007, Honduran President Mel Zelaya in 2005, and Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and the Party of Regions in 2006. Working closely with former Trump campaign manager, Paul Manafort (now a subject of the Mueller investigation of Trump's alleged coordination with Russia during his 2016 presidential campaign), Devine worked again with Yanukovych in 2009 and 2010 for his successful Presidential bid.[24] He served as a strategist and media consultant for Ashraf Ghani's 2009 presidential campaign in Afghanistan.[25]

 

 

 

 

Devine has worked as a strategist and media consultant for Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and the Party of Regions in 2006. Working closely with former Trump campaign manager, Paul Manafort (now a subject of the Mueller investigation of Trump's alleged coordination with Russia during his 2016 presidential campaign), Devine worked again with Yanukovych in 2009 and 2010 for his successful Presidential bid.

 

 

 

 

Paul Manaforts employee in the Ukraine

 

 

 

Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign[edit]

Devine worked as chief campaign strategist for the Democratic primary campaign of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders from 2015 until its suspension in 2016.[22]

 

 

the Sander campaign was infiltrated by Russians in 2016

 

 

cold hard facts 

 

he was dumb enough to get TAKEN BY RUSSIAN Operatives 

 

 

and it now totally compromised by Russian assets

 

 

 

 

 

address these cold hard facts about bernie

 

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15 minutes ago, merrill said:

I identified five hypothetical arguments suggesting that Sanders is the most electable candidate. He is currently at or near the top in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

His supporters are enthusiastic and will vote for him no matter what, which could lead to higher turnout for him in both the primary and general elections. Voters may care less about ideology than character, which could give Sanders an edge if he is perceived as compassionate and sincere in contrast to the opportunistic and shallow Trump. 

 

For that matter, Sanders' ideas aren't even that radical in the first place; they're basically an updated version of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which got him elected four times. https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

 Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Sanders has consistently led Trump in head-to-head polling in battleground states, and thus has a plausible Electoral College strategy. As a resident of one such state, Pennsylvania, I encounter this daily, at least on an anecdotal level.

 

"Conventional wisdom routinely fails to grasp the simmering anger that’s fueled by extreme income inequality,"  journalist Norman Solomon, co-founder and national coordinator of RootsAction.org and a Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic National Convention, told Salon by email. He was making what one could call the "populist wave" argument:

 

 More than mere fairness is at stake here. Donald Trump represents a grave danger to the United States and the world. His initiatives on global warming and immigration, his economic and foreignpolicies and his personal corruption are all existential threats to the survival of the free world, as well as severe moral crises for our country.

 

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

RICHARD NIXON ALSO PUSHED FOR SINGLE PAYER AS IS DID TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

 

THE LYING GOP BELIEVES PROTECTING PARTY CRIMINALS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROSECUTING CRIMES = IT'S ALL ABOUT PROTECTING CORRUPTION..

THIS NONSENSE WAS QUITE PROMINENT IN THE REAGAN/BUSH YEARS, BUSH/QUALE YEARS AND BUSH/CHENEY YEARS.

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19 minutes ago, merrill said:

I identified five hypothetical arguments suggesting that Sanders is the most electable candidate. He is currently at or near the top in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

His supporters are enthusiastic and will vote for him no matter what, which could lead to higher turnout for him in both the primary and general elections. Voters may care less about ideology than character, which could give Sanders an edge if he is perceived as compassionate and sincere in contrast to the opportunistic and shallow Trump. 

 

For that matter, Sanders' ideas aren't even that radical in the first place; they're basically an updated version of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which got him elected four times. https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

 Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Sanders has consistently led Trump in head-to-head polling in battleground states, and thus has a plausible Electoral College strategy. As a resident of one such state, Pennsylvania, I encounter this daily, at least on an anecdotal level.

 

"Conventional wisdom routinely fails to grasp the simmering anger that’s fueled by extreme income inequality,"  journalist Norman Solomon, co-founder and national coordinator of RootsAction.org and a Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic National Convention, told Salon by email. He was making what one could call the "populist wave" argument:

 

 More than mere fairness is at stake here. Donald Trump represents a grave danger to the United States and the world. His initiatives on global warming and immigration, his economic and foreignpolicies and his personal corruption are all existential threats to the survival of the free world, as well as severe moral crises for our country.

 

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

RICHARD NIXON ALSO PUSHED FOR SINGLE PAYER AS IS DID TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

 

This candidate has not deviated = he has his platform in place good, solid and practical.

 

YES I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS TO PAY FOR: 

== SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE,

 

== JOB TRAINING FOR ALL WHETHER IT BE FOR VOCATIONAL TRAINING, ASSOCIATES DEGREE, 4 YEAR DEGREE OR FOR THE MEDICAL FIELD,

 

== KEEP DRINKING WATER CLEAN BEYOND REALITY

 

== AND TO FUND OUR ELECTIONS .......

 

==YES YES YES BRING IT ON !!!!!

 

== MAKE Election Day A HOLIDAY!!!

 

== KEEP THE NATIONS HIGHWAYS AND BRIDGES IN ABOVE AVERAGE CONDITIONS ALWAYS!!!

 

== CUT OFF THE MULTI TRILLION TAX DOLLARS THAT FUND OUR WARS BLINDLY THAT WHICH HAVE BEEN DECLARED OFF BUDGET!!!!!!!!

 

== CUT OFF SPECIAL INTEREST FINANCING OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM

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I identified five hypothetical arguments suggesting that Sanders is the most electable candidate. He is currently at or near the top in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

His supporters are enthusiastic and will vote for him no matter what, which could lead to higher turnout for him in both the primary and general elections. Voters may care less about ideology than character, which could give Sanders an edge if he is perceived as compassionate and sincere in contrast to the opportunistic and shallow Trump. 

 

For that matter, Sanders' ideas aren't even that radical in the first place; they're basically an updated version of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which got him elected four times. https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

 Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Sanders has consistently led Trump in head-to-head polling in battleground states, and thus has a plausible Electoral College strategy. As a resident of one such state, Pennsylvania, I encounter this daily, at least on an anecdotal level.

 

"Conventional wisdom routinely fails to grasp the simmering anger that’s fueled by extreme income inequality,"  journalist Norman Solomon, co-founder and national coordinator of RootsAction.org and a Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic National Convention, told Salon by email. He was making what one could call the "populist wave" argument:

 

 More than mere fairness is at stake here. Donald Trump represents a grave danger to the United States and the world. His initiatives on global warming and immigration, his economic and foreignpolicies and his personal corruption are all existential threats to the survival of the free world, as well as severe moral crises for our country.

 

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

RICHARD NIXON ALSO PUSHED FOR SINGLE PAYER AS IS DID TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

 

This candidate has not deviated = he has his platform in place good, solid and practical. 

 

YES I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS TO PAY FOR: 

== SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE, 

 

== JOB TRAINING FOR ALL WHETHER IT BE FOR VOCATIONAL TRAINING, ASSOCIATES DEGREE, 4 YEAR DEGREE OR FOR THE MEDICAL FIELD, 

 

== KEEP DRINKING WATER CLEAN BEYOND REALITY 

 

== AND TO FUND OUR ELECTIONS ....... 

 

==YES YES YES BRING IT ON !!!!! 

 

== MAKE Election Day A HOLIDAY!!! 

 

== KEEP THE NATIONS HIGHWAYS AND BRIDGES IN ABOVE AVERAGE CONDITIONS ALWAYS!!! 

 

== CUT OFF THE MULTI TRILLION TAX DOLLARS THAT FUND OUR WARS BLINDLY THAT WHICH HAVE BEEN DECLARED OFF BUDGET!!!!!!!!

 

== CUT OFF SPECIAL INTEREST FINANCING OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM

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On 1/15/2020 at 1:08 AM, merrill said:

Let's start with NAFTA.

 

Biden was a YES!

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-14/biden-s-nafta-vote-is-a-liability-in-the-rust-belt

 

Joe Biden has emerged as the Democratic front-runner thanks to a perception that his working-class roots and chummy relations with labor leaders make him the likeliest candidate to take back the Upper Midwest and beat Donald Trump. But that scenario is complicated by the former vice president’s decades-long record of backing free-trade deals that have helped hollow out the manufacturing core in several important electoral states.

 
 

From his support for the North American Free Trade Agreement as a Delaware senator to his backing of the Trans-Pacific Partnership as Barack Obama’s vice president, Biden played a key role over the last 30 years in advancing a trade agenda that’s now being reassessed by many experts and early proponents as its costs, including job losses, are becoming clearer.

 
 
Will Franklin:
 

Biden’s record on trade is already drawing attacks from the left and right. Besides Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, a former House member, Biden is the only one of the 22 Democrats running for president who voted for Nafta. The 1993 pact reduced barriers with Mexico and Canada, increasing trade and economic growth in all three countries. But it also led to an exodus of U.S. manufacturing jobs to Mexico and hurt wages for U.S. workers who held on to their jobs. Throughout the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump pilloried Nafta as a “disaster” and “the worst trade deal ever,” a message his top advisers believe was pivotal in helping him carry critical Rust Belt states once considered Democratic strongholds.

 
 

“Nafta still resonates in the industrial Midwest and Rust Belt,” says Stanley Greenberg, a veteran Democratic pollster who recently conducted focus groups on trade in Michigan and Wisconsin. “There’s still a lot of anger because it symbolizes, for many people, the indifference about the outsourcing of jobs and the favoring of elite economic interests in international trade agreements.”

 

Just as with issues of criminal justice, busing, and his behavior toward women, Biden’s record on trade has left him vulnerable to shifts in voters’ attitudes, as the long-term effects of U.S. policies have become apparent.

 
 

Since Biden declared his candidacy on April 25, his most vocal critics on trade have been on the left. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who voted against Nafta as a congressman and is aiming to appeal to the same voters in the Upper Midwest, has repeatedly highlighted Biden’s history on trade. “It’s no secret that the most likely path to victory for Democrats in 2020 is to win the states Hillary Clinton won and then to add Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania,” says Jeff Weaver, a senior adviser to the Sanders campaign. “Nafta devastated all three of those states. That will be litigated in the Democratic primary—as it should be, because it will certainly be litigated in the general election.”

Other Democratic candidates are also likely to weigh in, reflecting the shift in sentiment against international trade deals within the party. In 2015, Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, who’s also running for president, spearheaded the effort to sideline the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the signature Obama-Biden trade initiative; she was so successful, even Clinton felt compelled to back away from it. Ohio Representative Tim Ryan, another presidential hopeful, has said, “There’s no question that over its 25-year history, Nafta has hurt American workers and industries.” On CNN last week, Ryan called a recent remark Biden had made downplaying the economic threat posed by China “stunningly out of touch.”

While most economists continue to assert the benefits of trade liberalization, a raft of recent scholarship has highlighted the fallout in U.S. industries hurt by the effects of globalization. One of the main drivers of job loss in the Upper Midwest was China’s emergence as a manufacturing superpower after it was admitted to the World Trade Organization in 2001, a move Biden and other Democrats supported.

An influential 2013 paper by economists David Autor, David Dorn, and Gordon Hanson found that exposure to Chinese trade competition was responsible for the loss of roughly 1 million U.S. manufacturing jobs between 2000 and 2007, many concentrated in regional industries such as the auto sector. Those findings were echoed in a 2016 paper, “The Surprisingly Swift Decline of U.S. Manufacturing Employment,” by Justin Pierce, a Federal Reserve economist, and Peter Schott, a professor at Yale School of Management, that linked China’s WTO entry to an 18% plunge in manufacturing jobs during the same period.

This displacement caused acute problems that continue to resonate. Many workers who lost their jobs struggled to find new ones or dropped out of the labor force altogether. “What we really gained a different appreciation of was how costly this was at the level of individuals and communities,” Autor said in 2017. Those costs extended beyond employment to encompass cultural and social effects, from a decline in family formation to an increase in the number of children living in poverty.

Although experts say factors such as technological advances and China’s evolution are bigger causes of workers’ dislocation, international trade deals have become the focal point of political wrath for those left behind. Democrats have been forced to adjust. Clinton’s pivot on TPP “was a big deal—a political reality that is in no small part demanded by the geography of the electoral college,” says Jared Bernstein, Biden’s chief economist in the White House and a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. “If you want to reach voters who feel left behind by globalization, you can’t tell them with a straight face, ‘Don’t worry, this new trade deal will be a lot better for you than the last one." 

In the wake of Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, Nafta in particular has for many voters come to symbolize everything they dislike about the globalized economy and the effects they see it having on their lives. During 2016, Greenberg’s polling tracked an intensifying, bipartisan negative attitude toward past trade deals that moved the country from a net positive view in the spring to a net negative view leading into Election Day. This trend upended the basic consensus in favor of trade liberalization that was prevalent when Biden cast his Nafta vote nearly 30 years ago.

“Trump has managed to convince much of the GOP and also bring many of the anti-trade Democrats into the fold,” says Maury Obstfeld, former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund and a professor at the University of California at Berkeley, who served in the Obama administration. “Now, if you look at both the major parties, there’s a prevailing skepticism. It’s been a remarkable shift in the political landscape.”

 
 

As he adjusts to the new politics of trade, Biden should have several things working in his favor. He has long been a popular figure among members of organized labor, and his father, grandfather, and uncle all worked at a General Motors plant in Delaware that shut down in 2009. Democrats’ desire for a nominee who can beat Trump is also working in his favor, at least for the moment. An April 30 Quinnipiac University poll found that 56% of Democrats say Biden has the best chance of defeating Trump next year.

While he’ll still have to defend his Nafta vote and other potentially troublesome stances, Biden can point to clear instances where he intervened to defend Midwest manufacturers, none more important than the Obama administration’s bailout of the auto companies during the 2008 financial crisis. “When I worked for Biden, he was constantly pushing me to find policies to help our manufacturers,” says Bernstein. “His support was instrumental in saving the auto industry, as well as in investing in manufacturers through tax credits and strengthening industrial unions.”

Strangely enough, Trump, who has done so much to toxify the politics of trade, may inadvertently help Biden overcome his apostasies. Trump has polarized public opinion on trade, causing Democrats to express a more favorable view toward free trade than in the past. A May 3 Marquette University Law School poll of Wisconsin voters found that more than three times as many Democrats say free trade is a “good thing” rather than a “bad thing” (66% vs. 19%), up sharply from the result in 2016 (48% vs. 36%). Independents and even Republicans also express moderately more favorable views.

 

“Trump’s amazing power to persuade is partly to bring his own party around to positions they didn’t hold before—tariffs is an example—but also to propel Democrats away from him, even if it means supporting free trade,” says Charles Franklin, the director of the Marquette poll. But he’s also skeptical that these results signify a true reassessment of Democrats’ feelings about trade and its effects. “I’m confident this is a reaction against Trump,” he says. The evidence: Asked about free-trade agreements, a large plurality of respondents still say they “cost”—rather than “create”—jobs.

“If Trump pushes the message that ‘Joe Biden voted to send your jobs to Mexico,’ there’s a good chance you’ll see a receptive audience,” Franklin says. “The trick for Biden will be playing up the positive economic value of free trade. He’ll have to walk a real tightrope to balance that with the effect on lost jobs.”

So far, Biden has said little about trade, choosing instead to signal his solidarity with workers by kicking off his presidential campaign at a Pittsburgh union hall, surrounded by firefighters. Despite his early stumble on China, his advisers say he’s prepared to weather attacks on his trade record, wherever they come from, and roll out a plan of his own. That will likely include calls for better worker and environmental protections—and a multilateral approach to getting tougher on China, to contrast with Trump’s volatile solo style.

But he’s standing by his Nafta vote. “Fair trade is important,” Biden told the Associated Press on Monday. “Not free trade. Fair trade. And I think that back in the time during the Clinton administration, it made sense at the moment.”

 

“Joe Biden has been on the floor of the Senate talking about the need to cut Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid,” Sanders said."

 

Harsh reality's

 

They will have to be cutting the current programs trying to keep them operational, they borrow money from SS and use it for world police operations and they flip out anytime Troops start moving back to the USA. They don't have the money for all the high priced government pension programs, the programs will be cut.  Same problem in Venezuela, at the same time that Venezuela politicians made promises for various new free goods and services  they were also removing basic individual rights. They realize that there will be a cut off point where they run out of ways to borrow money and they will need various harsh controls on the population.

 

Solution: forget about the false promises of free goods and services and instead concentrate on keeping basic constitutional rights (laws) such as a right to self employment, self sufficiency,  individual contract negotiation ability's and free speech, (USA constitution and bill of rights).

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On 1/15/2020 at 10:44 AM, merrill said:

I identified five hypothetical arguments suggesting that Sanders is the most electable candidate. He is currently at or near the top in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

His supporters are enthusiastic and will vote for him no matter what, which could lead to higher turnout for him in both the primary and general elections. Voters may care less about ideology than character, which could give Sanders an edge if he is perceived as compassionate and sincere in contrast to the opportunistic and shallow Trump. 

 

For that matter, Sanders' ideas aren't even that radical in the first place; they're basically an updated version of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which got him elected four times. https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

 Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Sanders has consistently led Trump in head-to-head polling in battleground states, and thus has a plausible Electoral College strategy. As a resident of one such state, Pennsylvania, I encounter this daily, at least on an anecdotal level.

 

"Conventional wisdom routinely fails to grasp the simmering anger that’s fueled by extreme income inequality,"  journalist Norman Solomon, co-founder and national coordinator of RootsAction.org and a Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic National Convention, told Salon by email. He was making what one could call the "populist wave" argument:

 

 More than mere fairness is at stake here. Donald Trump represents a grave danger to the United States and the world. His initiatives on global warming and immigration, his economic and foreignpolicies and his personal corruption are all existential threats to the survival of the free world, as well as severe moral crises for our country.

 

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

RICHARD NIXON ALSO PUSHED FOR SINGLE PAYER AS IS DID TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

 

Sanders' ideas aren't even that radical in the first place; they're basically an updated version of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which got him elected four times which makes Sanders the most electable democrat ........

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   On 1/15/2020 at 10:44 AM,  merrill said: 

I identified five hypothetical arguments suggesting that Sanders is the most electable candidate. He is currently at or near the top in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

His supporters are enthusiastic and will vote for him no matter what, which could lead to higher turnout for him in both the primary and general elections. Voters may care less about ideology than character, which could give Sanders an edge if he is perceived as compassionate and sincere in contrast to the opportunistic and shallow Trump. 

 

For that matter, Sanders' ideas aren't even that radical in the first place; they're basically an updated version of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal, which got him elected four times. https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

 Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Sanders has consistently led Trump in head-to-head polling in battleground states, and thus has a plausible Electoral College strategy. As a resident of one such state, Pennsylvania, I encounter this daily, at least on an anecdotal level.

 

"Conventional wisdom routinely fails to grasp the simmering anger that’s fueled by extreme income inequality,"  journalist Norman Solomon, co-founder and national coordinator of RootsAction.org and a Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic National Convention, told Salon by email. He was making what one could call the "populist wave" argument:

 

 More than mere fairness is at stake here. Donald Trump represents a grave danger to the United States and the world. His initiatives on global warming and immigration, his economic and foreignpolicies and his personal corruption are all existential threats to the survival of the free world, as well as severe moral crises for our country.

 

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/24/quit-saying-that-bernie-sanders-cant-win-he-may-be-the-most-electable-democrat-running-in-2020/

 

RICHARD NIXON ALSO PUSHED FOR SINGLE PAYER AS IS DID TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

 

This candidate has not deviated = he has his platform in place good, solid and practical. 

 

YES I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS TO PAY FOR: 

== SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE, 

 

== JOB TRAINING FOR ALL WHETHER IT BE FOR VOCATIONAL TRAINING, ASSOCIATES DEGREE, 4 YEAR DEGREE OR FOR THE MEDICAL FIELD, 

 

== KEEP DRINKING WATER CLEAN BEYOND REALITY 

 

== AND TO FUND OUR ELECTIONS ....... 

 

==YES YES YES BRING IT ON !!!!! 

 

== MAKE Election Day A HOLIDAY!!! 

 

== KEEP THE NATIONS HIGHWAYS AND BRIDGES IN ABOVE AVERAGE CONDITIONS ALWAYS!!! 

 

== CUT OFF THE MULTI TRILLION TAX DOLLARS THAT FUND OUR WARS BLINDLY THAT WHICH HAVE BEEN DECLARED OFF BUDGET!!!!!!!!

 

== CUT OFF SPECIAL INTEREST FINANCING OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM

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