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Who knows Soleimani better than the people he murdered ?

 

Today Iraqis are dancing in the street over this murderer's death..

 

In related news...

Some in Hollywood has expressed how sorry they are that this terrorist is now dead....

 

 

Didn't Obama call this man a terrorist years ago?

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1 minute ago, Z09 said:

Who knows Soleimani better than the people he murdered ?

 

Today Iraqis are dancing in the street over this murderer's death..

 

In related news...

Some in Hollywood has expressed how sorry they are that this terrorist is now dead....

 

 

Didn't Obama call this man a terrorist years ago?

Why...yes he did.

 

beanie didn't get the memo.

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17 minutes ago, Z09 said:

Who knows Soleimani better than the people he murdered ?

 

Today Iraqis are dancing in the street over this murderer's death..

 

In related news...

Some in Hollywood has expressed how sorry they are that this terrorist is now dead....

 

 

Didn't Obama call this man a terrorist years ago?

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raygun Arms Iraq and Iran....rednecks celebrate

 

 

bush/cheney do NOTHING to protect America from Terrorism.....rednecks celebrate

 

 

bush/cheney Invade Iraq over LIES.....rednecks celebrate

 

 

republiKlan policies have give us 80%+ of the National Debt.....rednecks celebrate

 

 

republiKlans elect a Complete MORON, trump......rednecks celebrate

 

 

trump believes Putin over all our Intell Agencies......rednecks celebrate

 

 

trump drops Corporate Tax Rate from 35% to 21% creating more gop RECORD DEBT.....91 of the most profitable Corp's in America pay ZERO in tax's......rednecks celebrate

 

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36 minutes ago, Z09 said:

Who knows Soleimani better than the people he murdered ?

 

Today Iraqis are dancing in the street over this murderer's death..

 

In related news...

Some in Hollywood has expressed how sorry they are that this terrorist is now dead....

 

 

Didn't Obama call this man a terrorist years ago?

 

What Trump just did was go against long standing agreement with nations that assassination of foreign leaders is a no no. 

 

What also just happened is Trump did not consult Congress before taking such an action. 

 

He has now opened up himself, his children, future Presidents, members of Congress, and others to assassination, anywhere in the world. 

 

Iran isn't Iraq. They are a world power, and have a global reach, including here. And they have some of the best assassins in the world.

 

Let's see how all off the Trump azzhole lickers react when things start going very wrong.

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11 minutes ago, skews13 said:

 

What Trump just did was go against long standing agreement with nations that assassination of foreign leaders is a no no. 

 

What also just happened is Trump did not consult Congress before taking such an action. 

 

He has now opened up himself, his children, future Presidents, members of Congress, and others to assassination, anywhere in the world. 

 

Iran isn't Iraq. They are a world power, and have a global reach, including here. And they have some of the best assassins in the world.

 

Let's see how all off the Trump azzhole lickers react when things start going very wrong.

A leader?

Obama called him a terrorist.

 

Obama attacked Libya ...

Didn't their leader get killed?

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12 minutes ago, skews13 said:

 

What Trump just did was go against long standing agreement with nations that assassination of foreign leaders is a no no. 

 

What also just happened is Trump did not consult Congress before taking such an action. 

 

He has now opened up himself, his children, future Presidents, members of Congress, and others to assassination, anywhere in the world. 

 

Iran isn't Iraq. They are a world power, and have a global reach, including here. And they have some of the best assassins in the world.

 

Let's see how all off the Trump azzhole lickers react when things start going very wrong.

Iran has some of the best assassins in the world...

 

And you seem to think we shouldn't have killed one of their leading assassins?

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1 minute ago, Z09 said:

A leader?

Obama called him a terrorist.

 

Obama attacked Libya ...

Didn't their leader get killed?

 

1 minute ago, Z09 said:

A leader?

Obama called him a terrorist.

 

Obama attacked Libya ...

Didn't their leader get killed?

 

We didn't directly kill Gadaffi. His people did. 

 

Egypt launched strikes against terrorists in Tripoli, and Benghazi. This happened to protect peaceful protesters there from Gaddfi's forces. He did make the mistake of also not notifying Congress before taking action, and I don't give him a pass for that either. Anytime a President acts alone in these situations, it always ends in disaster.

 

But Libya isn't Iran either. 

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1 minute ago, skews13 said:

 

 

We didn't directly kill Gadaffi. His people did. 

 

Egypt launched strikes against terrorists in Tripoli, and Benghazi. This happened to protect peaceful protesters there from Gaddfi's forces. He did make the mistake of also not notifying Congress before taking action, and I don't give him a pass for that either. Anytime a President acts alone in these situations, it always ends in disaster.

 

But Libya isn't Iran either. 

The fact is Obama attacked and bombed numerous countries without congressional approval...

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10 minutes ago, Z09 said:

Iran has some of the best assassins in the world...

 

And you seem to think we shouldn't have killed one of their leading assassins?

 

I don't think anything. I understand international politics, our role in them, and the rules of engagement. 

 

Trump doesn't, and he's now opened up the world to disaster to cover his own ass.

 

So if a major war starts with Iran, are you planning on going over to fight in it?

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19 minutes ago, skews13 said:

 

What Trump just did was go against long standing agreement with nations that assassination of foreign leaders is a no no. 

 

What also just happened is Trump did not consult Congress before taking such an action. 

 

He has now opened up himself, his children, future Presidents, members of Congress, and others to assassination, anywhere in the world. 

 

Iran isn't Iraq. They are a world power, and have a global reach, including here. And they have some of the best assassins in the world.

 

Let's see how all off the Trump azzhole lickers react when things start going very wrong.

 

Wow…….a clear example of how TDS creates an apologist^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

Soleimani was NO foreign leader you apologizing imbecile. He was a Major General, in uninform, operating in a foreign country. He's responsible for hundreds of American servicemen deaths and who knows how many lifelong injuries. He's set up terrorist networks, a wide variety of militias and created mayhem and was one of the single biggest destabilizing creators in the entire region - all at the behest of Iran's leadership. 

 

He was sanctioned by Obozo for his role in a plot to assassinate the Saudi Ambassador to the US - on US soil no less. This POS was the neck of the snake, and has now been officially and properly sanctioned. 

 

 

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Just now, skews13 said:

 

I don't think anything. I understand international politics, our role in them, and the rules of engagement. 

 

Trump doesn't, and he's now opened up the world to disaster to cover his own ass.

 

So if a major war starts with Iran, are you planning on going over to fight in it?

Funny about you guys...

 

In 2017 you were planning on a nuclear war with North Korea that never happened..

Then of course you complained when Trump met Kim...

 

Iran has been killing innocent people for decades according to Obama...

And the man that got killed yesterday planned at one time to attack DC...

 

 

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Donald Trump: From a foreign policy with no direction to a new war without a goal

It’s official now, the sabers are out and swinging.

A U.S. attack on the Baghdad airport in Iraq overnight that killed the powerful commander of the Quds Force of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps is a major escalation of violence with Iran that now threatens expected retaliation—in the Middle East and wherever Iranian’s terrorist partners can reach in embassies, on isolated bases or even in Israel.

 

There are always consequences. The question is whether our White House has thought them through, a question that has been in the air all week.

 

 

Both U.S. and Iranian governments confirmed the assassination of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, an important figure in the Iranian hierarchy, and four others, including the head of Iranian militias operating in Iraq.

 

Americans are trying to figure out whether there is a strategy here, whether this was a gut reaction by Trump, whether we know how to get out of yet another Middle East cauldron.

 

We are playing out the years’ long resentments between the United States and Iran just as Donald Trump is withdrawing American troops from Syria and Iraq, and just as Trump himself is burdened by the impeachment proceedings he faces in Congress. Indeed, Trump has been talking about seeking peace with Iran even as we have launched two strikes against Iranian-leaning militias and Suleimani.

Bombings, More Troops

Earlier this week, of course, Trump ordered an attack on an Iranian-backed militia in Iraq, killing 25 and wounding 50—including Iraqi citizens who ally with Iran, an action that sparked protests from Iraq for violating their space, from Iran, and from an Iranian-leaning mob that attacked the U.S. embassy.

 

That incident had already sparked another ratcheting of Mideast tension, with Trump sending more U.S. Marines, Apache gunship helicopters and 750 troops from the 82nd Airborne to protect the embassy and its personnel. The overnight attack will be seen by Iran as closer to an act of war.

Once again, Americans are left trying to figure out whether there is a strategy here, whether this was a gut reaction by Trump, whether we know how to get out of yet another Middle East cauldron of boiling tensions.

And once again, we have too few troops in the fight to do much actual peace-making, but too many to take seriously that we are withdrawing. We are showing ourselves to be closely allied with Iraq, but not closely enough to share our attack plan with them beforehand. We are insistent on pushing back militarily against Iran for orchestrating the attack on the embassy, without actually taking on any Iranian troops.

 

Indeed, our actions apparently have forced a pending vote in the Iraqi legislature to oust Americans altogether, something that most observers seem to agree would be a bad sign for anti-terrorism reasons.

Weird Tweet

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Reactions to the assassination were quick, ranging from concern about American troops in the area and families of personnel in embassies in Iraq and elsewhere to worries about uncontrolled war. Trump himself weirdly tweeted out just an American flag.

 

So, we have Americans in reinforced safe rooms in the embassy in Baghdad while unfriendlies have been crashing through the outside barriers in a spiraling storm of violence. The protests no sooner started dissipating yesterday as Iraqi and American military took up guard positions.

 

The reality here is that once more we have acted with no defining clarity about how this will play out.

Let’s remember that the current round of tensions started building as soon as Trump took office and started making moves to cancel U.S. participation in a multi-nation treaty with Iran to forestall the development of nuclear weapons. He called the deal terrible and ridiculed Barack Obama and then-Secretary of State John Kerry for making the deal. Now the United States has withdrawn and imposed extreme economic sanctions from an American perspective.

 

Along the way this week, we have twice ignored Iraqi sovereignty to launch air attacks.

 

From Washington, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo spoke to Iraqi officials to underscore that the United States will protect and defend its people, who are there to support a sovereign and independent Iraq. Trump later tweeted: This would be no Benghazi, where four diplomats died under-guarded in a distant Libyan consulate in a riot.

 

A stream of former generals turned television commentators have tried futilely to game out what has happened this week, why and what to expect. It is clear that Trump got advice to bomb the surrogate Iranian militia in return for the death of an American contractor, prompting threatening tweets to Iran as well. The Trump administration long has warned about militias operating in the region with backing from Iran, acting as surrogates.

Each of the generals made clear only that we are dealing with an extremely dangerous and flammable international situation, adding that there is much uncertainty about U.S. goals in the region. That has only gotten a whole lot more dangerous overnight.

 

The only clear statements were around a White House wanting to show it will not be pushed around by Iran. Obviously, we can expect Iran to say the same.

A Part-Time President

What keeps occurring to me is that the serious business of national security, as with other governmental undertakings, is complicated and important. We can’t afford a part-time president who seems to spend almost all of his time on self-preening and self-promotion rather than keeping his eye on the ball. We lack the chassis in place for diplomacy needed to pair with economic sanctions, and we lack a workable strategy.

 

Further, we have a secretary of state on his way out to run for the Senate from Kansas, we have Trump questioning the Pentagon and military leadership over its departmental justice system, and we have distanced ourselves from needed allies. This is not a formula for feeling safer.

 

The sabers are out and swinging. North Korea, Iran, Russia, China and others are lining up to test a U.S. president, perhaps emboldened by perceived weakness from impeachment, or worse, because the White House itself is erratic and unclear in pursuit of a foreign policy without direction.

 

 
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10 minutes ago, LaughinAtLefty said:

 

Wow…….a clear example of how TDS creates an apologist^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

Soleimani was NO foreign leader you apologizing imbecile. He was a Major General, in uninform, operating in a foreign country. He's responsible for hundreds of American servicemen deaths and who knows how many lifelong injuries. He's set up terrorist networks, a wide variety of militias and created mayhem and was one of the single biggest destabilizing creators in the entire region - all at the behest of Iran's leadership. 

 

He was sanctioned by Obozo for his role in a plot to assassinate the Saudi Ambassador to the US - on US soil no less. This POS was the neck of the snake, and has now been officially and properly sanctioned. 

 

 

 

So if a major war starts with Iran, are you going over there to fight it?

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5 minutes ago, skews13 said:

 

So if a major war starts with Iran, are you going over there to fight it?

Funny...

You clowns were asking the same thing when Trump was starting a war with North Korea...."any day.."

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15 minutes ago, skews13 said:

 

So if a major war starts with Iran, are you going over there to fight it?

As you know, I did my 20+. I know you served as well as we've had this discussion a long time ago.

 

What I can't understand is your post and it's inaccuracies. Hell no, I don't want a war in any form with anyone. Yet, you're defending a guy you damn well know is directly responsible for hundreds of our volunteers deaths, maiming hundreds if not thousands more, goodness knows how many civilians, and is the key military point for the actual Iran leadership in creating terrorist and militias whose sole intent is to destabilize that entire region. How do you defend the death of a military operative, in uniform, on foreign soil, and in essentially a perpetual combat zone? You used the term "leader". No, he is not Iran's leadership - he's the tip of the spear for Iran's military, terrorist and militia apparatus - directly responsible for the deaths of our fellow volunteers. He's not in the region as a goodwill ambassador - he's in there as assigned in his military capacity to orchestrate mayhem and death. The Obama administration sanctioned the mofo for plotting to kill the Saudi Ambassador on our own soil for crying out loud - how in the hell with the orders he's carried out in the past and up to his demise - do you defend the POS??????????? Very troubling skews. 

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Just now, LaughinAtLefty said:

As you know, I did my 20+. I know you served as well as we've had this discussion a long time ago.

 

What I can't understand is your post and it's inaccuracies. Hell no, I don't want a war in any form with anyone. Yet, you're defending a guy you damn well know is directly responsible for hundreds of our volunteers deaths, maiming hundreds if not thousands more, goodness knows how many civilians, and is the key military point for the actual Iran leadership in creating terrorist and militias whose sole intent is to destabilize that entire region. How do you defend the death of a military operative, in uniform, on foreign soil, and in essentially a perpetual combat zone. You used the term "leader". No, he is not Iran's leadership - he's the tip of the spear for Iran's military, terrorist and militia apparatus - directly responsible for the deaths of our fellow volunteers. He's not in the region as a goodwill ambassador - he's in there as assigned in his military capacity to orchestrate mayhem and death. The Obama administration sanctioned the mofo for plotting to kill the Saudi Ambassador on our own soil for crying out loud - how in the hell with the orders he's carried out in the past and up to his demise - do you defend the POS??????????? Very troubling skews. 

And on top of that the people that know him best....his victims in Iraq....Celebrate

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