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Rove could be right. He knows his politics. Senile or not, a lot of people like Biden - on both sides of the aisle.

 

 

Karl Rove predicts Trump win if Biden is not 2020 Democratic nominee

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Karl Rove said he believes former Vice President Joe Biden has a good shot at beating President Trump in the 2020 election if he can win the Democratic presidential nomination.

The former adviser to President George W. Bush made several predictions for the 2020 election, including that the Democratic convention will be contested.

“Pete Buttigieg wins Iowa, but no Democrat arrives at the convention with a majority,” he wrote in a piece for the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. “I pick Mr. Biden to win, but I’d take the field if I could.”

“Victory depends on Mr. Trump’s discipline and whom the Democrats nominate. If it’s Mr. Biden, Mr. Trump has an uphill fight; if not, the president wins,” he added.

Rove said Trump will again struggle in the popular vote, which he lost to Hillary Clinton in 2016. Trump will win Florida and Ohio, he said, but the Democratic nominee will have the edge in Iowa.

“The election again comes down to Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Mr. Trump must win at least two,” Rove said.

In September, Rove argued only three Democratic candidates have a shot at being named the party’s nominee: Biden, Sen. Bernie Sanders, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren. The trio sits atop an average of polling data by RealClearPolitics, with Biden leading second-place Sanders by nearly 10 points.

The RealClearPolitics average has Biden up 4.5 points against Trump in a general election. It also shows Trump narrowly beating Warren, whereas Sanders would defeat Trump by almost 3 points, according to the polling data averages.

 

 

 

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Karl Rove is a sick man ....... of course these anti American right wing conservatives want Biden because Biden is a conservative and Biden has a lot of history they can assassinate him with ... win win for the anti American right wing conservatives.

 

Rove loves the character assassination mode because he is nasty enough to pull it off. 

 

Like all anti American right wing conservatives Rove will avoid the issues from his behind the curtain coach chair.

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43 minutes ago, drvoke said:

 

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Rove could be right. He knows his politics. Senile or not, a lot of people like Biden - on both sides of the aisle.

 

 

Karl Rove predicts Trump win if Biden is not 2020 Democratic nominee

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/karl-rove-predicts-trump-win-if-biden-is-not-2020-democratic-nominee/ar-BBYwn62?ocid=spartanntp

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Karl Rove said he believes former Vice President Joe Biden has a good shot at beating President Trump in the 2020 election if he can win the Democratic presidential nomination.

The former adviser to President George W. Bush made several predictions for the 2020 election, including that the Democratic convention will be contested.

“Pete Buttigieg wins Iowa, but no Democrat arrives at the convention with a majority,” he wrote in a piece for the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. “I pick Mr. Biden to win, but I’d take the field if I could.”

“Victory depends on Mr. Trump’s discipline and whom the Democrats nominate. If it’s Mr. Biden, Mr. Trump has an uphill fight; if not, the president wins,” he added.

Rove said Trump will again struggle in the popular vote, which he lost to Hillary Clinton in 2016. Trump will win Florida and Ohio, he said, but the Democratic nominee will have the edge in Iowa.

“The election again comes down to Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Mr. Trump must win at least two,” Rove said.

In September, Rove argued only three Democratic candidates have a shot at being named the party’s nominee: Biden, Sen. Bernie Sanders, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren. The trio sits atop an average of polling data by RealClearPolitics, with Biden leading second-place Sanders by nearly 10 points.

The RealClearPolitics average has Biden up 4.5 points against Trump in a general election. It also shows Trump narrowly beating Warren, whereas Sanders would defeat Trump by almost 3 points, according to the polling data averages.

 

 

 

Biden has the edge over Bernie, Warren, and Buttigeig  because he is a moderate! And has name recognition.

Many would not vote for A gay man, or a woman. And Bernie has that 'socialist' label on him and his association with AOC.

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3 minutes ago, merrill said:

Karl Rove is a sick man ....... of course these anti American right wing conservatives want Biden because Biden is a conservative and Biden has a lot of history they can assassinate him with ... win win for the anti American right wing conservatives.

 

Rove loves the character assassination mode because he is nasty enough to pull it off. 

 

Like all anti American right wing conservatives Rove will avoid the issues from his behind the curtain coach chair.

Rove is a real SLIMEBAG!

Hes the modern day Josef Goebbles, a Rethug cock gobbler!

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47 minutes ago, Vegas said:

I think the presidential debates between these two would be hilarious given how much they hate each other. It would be more like WWE. 

 

I think Biden will punch Trump in the face on national television.

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27 minutes ago, merrill said:

Karl Rove is a sick man ....... of course these anti American right wing conservatives want Biden because Biden is a conservative and Biden has a lot of history they can assassinate him with ... win win for the anti American right wing conservatives.

 

Rove loves the character assassination mode because he is nasty enough to pull it off. 

 

Like all anti American right wing conservatives Rove will avoid the issues from his behind the curtain coach chair.

 

Biden is in bed with the Banks, Insurance industry and War Machine which is Delaware = way to conservative for me.

 

tRump is DOA and he knows it whether the senate kills him or not. A senate not impeaching their own is no determination of guilt.

 

Bernie is strong and has not deviated = stands his ground because he is right. Warren is reasonably strong, quite intelligent and knows her stuff and knows enough 

to make anti American right wing fascist conservatives nervous as hell.

 

Socialism talk = what a joke. Every elected official on the hill has supported some form of Socialism forever = corporate subsidies is corporate welfare is socialism!!!

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Rove could be right. He knows his politics. Senile or not, a lot of people like Biden - on both sides of the aisle.

 

 

Karl Rove predicts Trump win if Biden is not 2020 Democratic nominee

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/karl-rove-predicts-trump-win-if-biden-is-not-2020-democratic-nominee/ar-BBYwn62?ocid=spartanntp

(Full article at above link)

 

Karl Rove said he believes former Vice President Joe Biden has a good shot at beating President Trump in the 2020 election if he can win the Democratic presidential nomination.

The former adviser to President George W. Bush made several predictions for the 2020 election, including that the Democratic convention will be contested.

“Pete Buttigieg wins Iowa, but no Democrat arrives at the convention with a majority,” he wrote in a piece for the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. “I pick Mr. Biden to win, but I’d take the field if I could.”

“Victory depends on Mr. Trump’s discipline and whom the Democrats nominate. If it’s Mr. Biden, Mr. Trump has an uphill fight; if not, the president wins,” he added.

Rove said Trump will again struggle in the popular vote, which he lost to Hillary Clinton in 2016. Trump will win Florida and Ohio, he said, but the Democratic nominee will have the edge in Iowa.

“The election again comes down to Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Mr. Trump must win at least two,” Rove said.

In September, Rove argued only three Democratic candidates have a shot at being named the party’s nominee: Biden, Sen. Bernie Sanders, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren. The trio sits atop an average of polling data by RealClearPolitics, with Biden leading second-place Sanders by nearly 10 points.

The RealClearPolitics average has Biden up 4.5 points against Trump in a general election. It also shows Trump narrowly beating Warren, whereas Sanders would defeat Trump by almost 3 points, according to the polling data averages.


Rove is a Republican and we should be wary of allowing Republicans to dictate Democratic politics. 
 

I think Biden has the best shot but his age works against him. 

 

Sanders might struggle because his “socialist” mantle comes with policies that could scare voters. 

Warren may yet surprise but she is struggling in the polls. She appears to be retreating from he Medicare for All platform. Time will tell if this can reverse the trend. 

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10 minutes ago, Olivaw said:


Rove is a Republican and we should be wary of allowing Republicans to dictate Democratic politics. 
 

I think Biden has the best shot but his age works against him. 

 

Sanders might struggle because his “socialist” mantle comes with policies that could scare voters. 

Warren may yet surprise but she is struggling in the polls. She appears to be retreating from he Medicare for All platform. Time will tell if this can reverse the trend. 

She’s tied to it along with Sanders. 
 

MFA is a serious pipe dream and what we’d end up with is Medicaid for all and anyone on Medicaid can tell you how horrible that would be. They love the fact someone else is paying for it. They hate the fact no one will actually take it aside from the ED because the ED can’t turn you away. 

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17 minutes ago, Olivaw said:


Rove is a Republican and we should be wary of allowing Republicans to dictate Democratic politics. 
 

I think Biden has the best shot but his age works against him. 

 

Sanders might struggle because his “socialist” mantle comes with policies that could scare voters. 

Warren may yet surprise but she is struggling in the polls. She appears to be retreating from he Medicare for All platform. Time will tell if this can reverse the trend. 

 

 Warren is fully behind a single-payer health care system. Full-stop.

What does this mean for Democrats?

The change in Warren, one of the most recognizable currently active Democrats in the country, reflects the shifting mood of the party overall. Though Hillary Clinton fended off her presidential primary challenger Bernie Sanders — who did support single-payer— the progressive, far-left wing of the party is making inroads. 

 

For Warren, who is running for reelection to the Senate in 2018 and is a potential candidate for president in 2020, it shows the degree to which she sees the Democratic Party moving left on the issue.

 

Polling shows that a majority of citizens support “expanding Medicare to provide health insurance to every American.” Similarly, a recent poll from Morning Consult/Politico showed a pluralitty of voters, 44 percent of all voters and 54 percent of Democrats — support “a single-payer health care system, where all Americans would get their health insurance from one government plan.” 

 

Plus, polls show the most favorably viewed politician in America right now is Sanders.

 

Combined, these factors free someone like Warren to stake out a bolder stance.

 

Ten years ago, single-payer health care was a fringe position. It is now mainstream.

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WAVERLY, Iowa (AP) — Elizabeth Warren pushed back against critics of her newly released plan to phase in implementation of a single-payer health care system, insisting Saturday that she is “fully committed” to Medicare for All and that she plans to first build on existing health care programs because “people need help right now.”

Posted: Nov 16, 2019 / 05:18 PM EST/ Updated: Nov 20, 2019 / 10:31 AM EST

 

WAVERLY, Iowa (AP) — Elizabeth Warren pushed back against critics of her newly released plan to phase in implementation of a single-payer health care system, insisting Saturday that she is “fully committed” to Medicare for All and that she plans to first build on existing health care programs because “people need help right now.”

 

“My commitment to Medicare for All is all the way,” Warren told reporters, responding to critics who’ve questioned the timing behind the release of her implementation plan.

 

On Friday, the Massachusetts Democrat released a plan outlining how she would transition to a full Medicare for All program, first by using executive action to bring down drug and health care prices and by pushing Congress to pass a bill giving Americans the option to buy in to an expanded government-run Medicare plan.

 

Warren says she’ll then work with Congress to pass pieces of a universal coverage proposal more gradually, with the whole thing being ready “no later than” her third year in office.

WAVERLY, Iowa (AP) — Elizabeth Warren pushed back against critics of her newly released plan to phase in implementation of a single-payer health care system, insisting Saturday that she is “fully committed” to Medicare for All and that she plans to first build on existing health care programs because “people need help right now.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, merrill said:

 

 Warren is fully behind a single-payer health care system. Full-stop.

What does this mean for Democrats?

The change in Warren, one of the most recognizable currently active Democrats in the country, reflects the shifting mood of the party overall. Though Hillary Clinton fended off her presidential primary challenger Bernie Sanders — who did support single-payer— the progressive, far-left wing of the party is making inroads. 

 

For Warren, who is running for reelection to the Senate in 2018 and is a potential candidate for president in 2020, it shows the degree to which she sees the Democratic Party moving left on the issue.

 

Polling shows that a majority of citizens support “expanding Medicare to provide health insurance to every American.” Similarly, a recent poll from Morning Consult/Politico showed a pluralitty of voters, 44 percent of all voters and 54 percent of Democrats — support “a single-payer health care system, where all Americans would get their health insurance from one government plan.” 

 

Plus, polls show the most favorably viewed politician in America right now is Sanders.

 

Combined, these factors free someone like Warren to stake out a bolder stance.

 

Ten years ago, single-payer health care was a fringe position. It is now mainstream.


Medicare For All (or an alternative form of single payer) is probably sound long term policy but the challenge in the 2020 general election will be to avoid voter fear of the loss or weakening of existing health coverage. An alternative is to offer a public option that will compete with the private system. It will take years to unwind the inefficiencies in the private insurance system. 
 

The morning consult poll you referenced is interesting. it suggests that voters are less concerned with losing their insurance than they are with losing their healthcare providers. The challenge will be to convince voters that they will not lose their healthcare providers when Republicans are telling them that they will. 
 

I found the following quote informative. 
 

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Several polls have demonstrated that support for Medicare for All plummets when Americans learn the system would replace employer-sponsored coverage with one sweeping plan, forcing single-payer supporters to go on the defensive to alleviate concerns from voters. But as candidates attempt to persuade voters that Medicare for All would not require diminishing the role of private insurers — further adding to confusion among the electorate about what exactly the system would entail — the new data suggests that the consequences of that argument can be mitigated by clarifying that losing private insurers would not affect access to preferred providers.

 

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2 hours ago, drvoke said:

 

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Rove could be right. He knows his politics. Senile or not, a lot of people like Biden - on both sides of the aisle.

 

 

Karl Rove predicts Trump win if Biden is not 2020 Democratic nominee

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/karl-rove-predicts-trump-win-if-biden-is-not-2020-democratic-nominee/ar-BBYwn62?ocid=spartanntp

(Full article at above link)

 

Karl Rove said he believes former Vice President Joe Biden has a good shot at beating President Trump in the 2020 election if he can win the Democratic presidential nomination.

The former adviser to President George W. Bush made several predictions for the 2020 election, including that the Democratic convention will be contested.

“Pete Buttigieg wins Iowa, but no Democrat arrives at the convention with a majority,” he wrote in a piece for the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. “I pick Mr. Biden to win, but I’d take the field if I could.”

“Victory depends on Mr. Trump’s discipline and whom the Democrats nominate. If it’s Mr. Biden, Mr. Trump has an uphill fight; if not, the president wins,” he added.

Rove said Trump will again struggle in the popular vote, which he lost to Hillary Clinton in 2016. Trump will win Florida and Ohio, he said, but the Democratic nominee will have the edge in Iowa.

“The election again comes down to Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Mr. Trump must win at least two,” Rove said.

In September, Rove argued only three Democratic candidates have a shot at being named the party’s nominee: Biden, Sen. Bernie Sanders, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren. The trio sits atop an average of polling data by RealClearPolitics, with Biden leading second-place Sanders by nearly 10 points.

The RealClearPolitics average has Biden up 4.5 points against Trump in a general election. It also shows Trump narrowly beating Warren, whereas Sanders would defeat Trump by almost 3 points, according to the polling data averages.

 

 

 

Yes, Dr.joeb agrees wholeheartedly.   Dr.joeb rarely liked anything that come out of Karl Rove but he is a politics master.   Biden wins because he is much more likable as a person than Trump.   Biden is like Carter in many ways.   He is a nice guy who has had lots of personal tragedies.   Everyone identifies with that since most of us have had them, too.   Biden's track record is great for doing the job of working for the people.   And he has done it without enflaming the meg-rich.   Truly he can get along with the GOP better than most of the other candidates.  The democrats have a superior platform but the general public is too uninformed to understand.   They vote for people they like as persons and not for their beliefs.  Hillary lost only because her campaigners didn't do a good job in the blue states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.   The Russians understood the stupidity of the electoral college and found a way to exploit it with a massive campaign to hype Trump.   They cost our nation dearly.  Russia is still a communist state that wants to destroy our democracy.   We need to ensure against Russia playing that game again on the social media.   

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4 hours ago, Dr. Joe B. said:

Yes, Dr.joeb agrees wholeheartedly.   Dr.joeb rarely liked anything that come out of Karl Rove but he is a politics master.   Biden wins because he is much more likable as a person than Trump.   Biden is like Carter in many ways.   He is a nice guy who has had lots of personal tragedies.   Everyone identifies with that since most of us have had them, too.   Biden's track record is great for doing the job of working for the people.   And he has done it without enflaming the meg-rich.   Truly he can get along with the GOP better than most of the other candidates.  The democrats have a superior platform but the general public is too uninformed to understand.   They vote for people they like as persons and not for their beliefs.  Hillary lost only because her campaigners didn't do a good job in the blue states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.   The Russians understood the stupidity of the electoral college and found a way to exploit it with a massive campaign to hype Trump.   They cost our nation dearly.  Russia is still a communist state that wants to destroy our democracy.   We need to ensure against Russia playing that game again on the social media.   

 

I agree with your assessment of Rove. You are also correct that people vote for emotional reasons, more so than policy. Although the abortion issue on the right is problematic.

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