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According to a study released January 14 by the California Nurses Association, adoptiing a single payer system of universal health care in the US would create 2.6 million new jobs, as many as the Bush economy destroyed in 2006, and boost the revenues of private employers by an annual $317 billion.

 

A single payer health care system would put more than $100 billion in the pockets of employees and add $44 billion to state, local and federal budgets in badly needed tax revenues.

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7 minutes ago, merrill said:

What cha think about that ...

 

Yes more economic growth for so many communities is on the table.

Proof? Link? Aside from liberal talking points and what CNN says, where is the proof of this? Not to mention, you will lose more jobs than created due to private insurances being banned. But you and Willy don't want to talk about that do you?

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Just now, DeepBreath said:

It’s false. It’ll cost millions of jobs. Merrill is literally mentally retarded. 

It would be a huge economic disaster. First, millions of jobs will be gone, then on top of that, there will be a healthcare system that will cost trillions of dollars. Why do we have to allow liberals in this country? They are just as dangerous as ISIS.

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5 minutes ago, Vegas said:

It would be a huge economic disaster. First, millions of jobs will be gone, then on top of that, there will be a healthcare system that will cost trillions of dollars. Why do we have to allow liberals in this country? They are just as dangerous as ISIS.

More dangerous. 

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3 minutes ago, DeepBreath said:

It’s false. It’ll cost millions of jobs. Merrill is literally mentally retarded. 

 

You have absolutely zero, to back that up. Health insurance companies are nothing but middlemen between patients and actual care. And just like your statement add zero value to the system except for themselve's. Health insurance is the most worthless industry on the planet, and why everyother industrialized nation on earth has abandoned them. 

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9 minutes ago, skews13 said:

 

You have absolutely zero, to back that up. Health insurance companies are nothing but middlemen between patients and actual care. And just like your statement add zero value to the system except for themselve's. Health insurance is the most worthless industry on the planet, and why everyother industrialized nation on earth has abandoned them. 

You’re a moron. Sanders and Warren have both stated it’ll cost millions of jobs.😂

 

The government is a middle man too you fucking retard. 
 

If it’s so worthless, why do most people voluntarily purchase their services, idiot? 

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14 minutes ago, DeepBreath said:

You’re a moron. Sanders and Warren have both stated it’ll cost millions of jobs.😂

 

The government is a middle man too you fucking retard. 
 

If it’s so worthless, why do most people voluntarily purchase their services, idiot? 

 

You're a liar. There aren't millions of jobs to be lost fukface. Our healthcare system is the worst in the industrialized world, and everyone knows it. We pay more for less than anybody else. We are the only people in the world that have 500,000 people go bankrupt every year over medical costs. Only 7% of the entire country can buy insurance on their own, and that's only because of the Affordable Care Act.

 

You've either got to be an insurance salesman, or the dumbest SOB on the internet.

 

The only jobs that will be lost are a few thousand managers for private companies. On the otherhand, millions of people who only stay in their jobs because of their employer provided coverage, could retire or resign, opening up millions of jobs, and creating others by starting businesses.

 

It would also save companies trillions of dollars by not having to pay for insurance to cover their employees, freeing up money for raises and bonuses for their employees. With more disposal income not going to premiums. deductibles, and the cost of drugs and treatment, that's more money going into the economy driving growth, and creating more jobs.

 

Yep, I'm going with you being the dumbest SOB on the internet. Whatever it is you do, stick with it, an economist your not.

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14 minutes ago, skews13 said:

 

You're a liar. There aren't millions of jobs to be lost fukface. Our healthcare system is the worst in the industrialized world, and everyone knows it. We pay more for less than anybody else. We are the only people in the world that have 500,000 people go bankrupt every year over medical costs. Only 7% of the entire country can buy insurance on their own, and that's only because of the Affordable Care Act.

lol.   Yes ladies and gentlemen, liberals really ARE this stupid. 

 

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59 minutes ago, skews13 said:

 

You're a liar. There aren't millions of jobs to be lost fukface. Our healthcare system is the worst in the industrialized world, and everyone knows it. We pay more for less than anybody else. We are the only people in the world that have 500,000 people go bankrupt every year over medical costs. Only 7% of the entire country can buy insurance on their own, and that's only because of the Affordable Care Act.

1. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/warren-admits-universal-medicare-would-result-in-two-million-lost-jobs/

 

Warren Admits Universal Medicare Would Result in Two Million Lost Jobs

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/12/28/bernie-sanders-says-medicare-for-all-will-cost-jobs/

DOVER, N.H. — Bernie Sanders’ long-championed “Medicare for All” health care system will cost people their jobs, the Vermont senator said Saturday while campaigning in the home of the first-in-the-nation primary.

“Will there be job loss? Yes, there will be,” Sanders said in response to an audience question during a health care-themed town hall in Dover, N.H.

But Sanders suggested job re-training as a way to help those who would lose their jobs in the transition to the government-run health care system that abolishes private insurance.

University of Massachusetts Amherst economist Robert Pollin told Kaiser Health News earlier this year Medicare for All could cost some 2 million jobs.

 

2. Health insurance LOWERS your cost of healthcare. Try spending a week in the hospital without it and see what you have? It's not health insurances fault your RETARDS live paycheck to paycheck. 

 

3. So you got caught in 3 BALD FACED LIES. 

 

A. Accusing me of lying when I wasn't.

 

B. Claiming MFA won't cost millions of jobs.

 

C. Trying to blame health insurance for bankruptcies....

 

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You've either got to be an insurance salesman, or the dumbest SOB on the internet.

At least I'm not dumb enough to think most healthcare costs are from health insurance instead of actual healthcare providers. 

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The only jobs that will be lost are a few thousand managers for private companies. On the otherhand, millions of people who only stay in their jobs because of their employer provided coverage, could retire or resign, opening up millions of jobs, and creating others by starting businesses.

That's a LIE. Repeating the same lie won't somehow make it true. 

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It would also save companies trillions of dollars by not having to pay for insurance to cover their employees, freeing up money for raises and bonuses for their employees. With more disposal income not going to premiums. deductibles, and the cost of drugs and treatment, that's more money going into the economy driving growth, and creating more jobs.

It's not going to save anyone anything, It's going to cost EVERYONE way more than they're currently paying. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/06/30/the-myth-of-medicares-low-administrative-costs/#49994d8b140d

https://www.heritage.org/health-care-reform/report/medicare-administrative-costs-are-higher-not-lower-private-insurance

 

Not ONLY does administration cost more when the government does it. 

 

The government loses 60 BILLION a year in fraud....That's 10% administration costs right off the top, IDIOT.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/medicare-funds-totaling-60-billion-improperly-paid-report/story?id=32604330

 

The report says that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), the federal agency that administers Medicare, estimates that last year some $60 billion of American taxpayer money, or more than 10 percent of Medicare’s total budget, was lost to fraud, waste, abuse and improper payments.

 

 

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Yep, I'm going with you being the dumbest SOB on the internet. Whatever it is you do, stick with it, an economist your not.

You're a PROVEN BALD FACED LIAR who has absolutely ZERO education on the subject or ability to think critically. You've parroted the same easily disproven talking points your media masters feed you like a good little retarded bitch.

 

Meanwhile, I'm a BSN,RN. That's a RESEARCH degree in healthcare. Take your ignorant, uneducated, lying ass and go fucyourself. 

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4 hours ago, merrill said:

According to a study released January 14 by the California Nurses Association, adoptiing a single payer system of universal health care in the US would create 2.6 million new jobs, as many as the Bush economy destroyed in 2006, and boost the revenues of private employers by an annual $317 billion.

 

A single payer health care system would put more than $100 billion in the pockets of employees and add $44 billion to state, local and federal budgets in badly needed tax revenues.

Whatever government gives the people, it must first take away from the people.  In your case, whatever you want to give to illegals, you must first take away from the American people. 

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8 hours ago, merrill said:

According to a study released January 14 by the California Nurses Association, adoptiing a single payer system of universal health care in the US would create 2.6 million new jobs, as many as the Bush economy destroyed in 2006, and boost the revenues of private employers by an annual $317 billion.

 

A single payer health care system would put more than $100 billion in the pockets of employees and add $44 billion to state, local and federal budgets in badly needed tax revenues.

 

The nation's most trusted healthcare professionals published their long-awaited studythis week that shows 2.6 million new jobs created following the implementation of a single payer - publicly funded, privately delivered -- healthcare system. 

 

The National Nurses Organizing Committee and California Nurses Association study also found that establishing a national single-payer style healthcare system would provide a major stimulus for the U.S. economy by infusing $317 billion in new business and public revenues, with another $100 billion in wages into the U.S. economy.

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"For many years, many leaders, including Obama, have told Americans that single-payer is the right thing to do but that it is not politically feasible.  It's too hard to make those pesky special interests take a back seat to human rights, they muse."

 

Single payer = 2.6 million jobs -- $317 billion in new business and public revenues -- $100 billion in wages.

It's a ground-up sort of listening effort, the transition team promised. 

 

The nurses have long battled for single-payer healthcare reform on the basis of patient care, patient safety and the moral imperative that their profession demands.  So taking on the task of giving this President the information he needs to back up what he knows is right was a natural undertaking.

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Sep 22, 2017 · It’s not hard to find data that show shifting to a single-payer system would actually create jobs while leading to a boom in our economy. As far back as 2009, it was estimated that such a stimulus would create an estimated 2.6 million additional jobs .......

 

Face it health care may well be the fastest growing industry in the USA!!!

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8 hours ago, skews13 said:

 

You're a liar. There aren't millions of jobs to be lost fukface. Our healthcare system is the worst in the industrialized world, and everyone knows it. We pay more for less than anybody else. We are the only people in the world that have 500,000 people go bankrupt every year over medical costs. Only 7% of the entire country can buy insurance on their own, and that's only because of the Affordable Care Act.

 

You've either got to be an insurance salesman, or the dumbest SOB on the internet.

 

The only jobs that will be lost are a few thousand managers for private companies. On the otherhand, millions of people who only stay in their jobs because of their employer provided coverage, could retire or resign, opening up millions of jobs, and creating others by starting businesses.

 

It would also save companies trillions of dollars by not having to pay for insurance to cover their employees, freeing up money for raises and bonuses for their employees. With more disposal income not going to premiums. deductibles, and the cost of drugs and treatment, that's more money going into the economy driving growth, and creating more jobs.

 

Yep, I'm going with you being the dumbest SOB on the internet. Whatever it is you do, stick with it, an economist your not.

 

Applause Applause

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/single-payer-health-care-would-stimulate-economy/

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A national single-payer style healthcare reform system by expanding the existing Medicare system to cover all Americans.According to a new "Single Payer/Medicare for All: An Economic Stimulus Plan for the Nation" study released today by the National Nurses Organizing Committee/California Nurses Association, such a reform would provide a major stimulus for the U.S. economy by creating 2.6 million new jobs and infusing $317 billion in new business and public revenues into the economy. This reform would, according to the study, add $100 billion in wages to the currently sputtering U.S. economy.

https://www.thenation.com/article/single-payer-health-care-would-stimulate-economy/

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And how can workers and businesses afford universal health care in this economic climate? 
Two things:

 

1. Billionaire Warren Buffett recently said that health care costs are a major drain on U.S.
businesses and act like an “economic tape worm.”  This is exactly right – health care
costs are growing 3-5 times faster than our economy is growing and neither taxes nor
profits can keep up with the rising costs.

This is the only model for financing health care that has been demonstrated to contain
health care costs while providing comprehensive universal care.

 

2. A recent study showed that enacting a single payer health care system in the United
States would create 2.6 million new jobs and stimulate $317 billion in business revenue.
(Institute for Health and Socio-Economic Policy).

 

3. Note:  IHSP is a research entity of California Nurses Association.

Under single payer, wasteful health care spending that currently creates no value added
for our health or our economy would be redirected into meaningful investments in health
care delivery and health care infrastructure.  This will create value added jobs and
stimulate economic growth.

 

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 Won’t the legislature just vote to cut our benefit structure, shift costs to consumers in forms of premium and co-payment and
deductible increases? 

 

Sounds familiar doesn’t it?  That is exactly what is happening now – each year the level of
benefits in a typical health insurance plan is eroding.

 

The Kaiser Family Foundation recently found that premiums in the individual market increased
by 20% on average, yet insurers recorded huge profit gains in the first three months of 2000
compared to a year earlier.

 

A different study also by the KFF found that:
• Forty percent of the employers surveyed said they would likely increase the amount their workers pay out
of pocket for doctor visits.
• Almost as many said they are likely to raise annual deductibles and the amount workers pay for
prescription drugs.
• Nine percent said they plan to tighten eligibility for health benefits; eight percent said they plan to drop
coverage entirely.
• Forty-one percent of employers said they are “somewhat” or “very” likely to increase the amount
employees pay in premiums — though that would not necessarily mean employees would pay a higher
percentage of the premiums.

 

Enacting a single payer system would minimize this trend by ensuring that our health care
dollars are redirected from wasteful administration and toward direct medical care.

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Thursday, 31 October 2019

 

Warren Agrees Medicare for All Could Cost Two Million Jobs

 

Warren went on to argue that many of the jobs that would be lost exist only because of a “for-profit insurance system”, thus, the loss of these jobs would not be such a bad thing, in her opinion.

 

Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the originator of Medicare for All, has also become much more tightlipped about how he intends to make others pay for it, recently telling CNBC’s John Harwood that he’s not even going to bother trying to figure that out right now. Quizzed about Sanders’ sudden secretiveness, Warren said, “We just each run our own campaigns regardless of what kind of money is involved.”

In other words, how much Medicare for All is going to cost — and who is going to bear that cost — is irrelevant. What’s important to Warren and her fellow socialists is bamboozling enough people into voting for “free” healthcare.

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