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71% of americans want the eyewitnesses to trumps crimes to testify under oath and tell us the truth,

.that is not surprising but what astonishes honest americans and people of good will is how the trump cult does not want the truth to be told. one can only surmise that they are exceedingly dishonest and want the truth to be hiodden because they know he is dirty and they don't want to

be embarrassed by the truth. and so they lie to their children and to the rest of us.

and now that evangelicals have served notice I don't see how some republicans can possibly deny us the truth for the sake of the minority of dishonest people.

https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment-white-house-aide-testify-senate-trial-41a51440-efc0-4041-8a93-a41556c81589.html

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2 minutes ago, harryramar said:

71% of americans want the eyewitnesses to trumps crimes to testify under oath and tell us the truth,

.that is not surprising but what astonishes honest americans and people of good will is how the trump cult does not want the truth to be told. one can only surmise that they are exceedingly dishonest and want the truth to be hiodden because they know he is dirty and they don't want to

be embarrassed by the truth. and so they lie to their children and to the rest of us.

and now that evangelicals have served notice I don't see how some republicans can possibly deny us the truth for the sake of the minority of dishonest people.

https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment-white-house-aide-testify-senate-trial-41a51440-efc0-4041-8a93-a41556c81589.html

Does this mean Schiff's whistleblower will testify under oath?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, harryramar said:

71% of americans want the eyewitnesses to trumps crimes to testify under oath and tell us the truth,

.that is not surprising but what astonishes honest americans and people of good will is how the trump cult does not want the truth to be told. one can only surmise that they are exceedingly dishonest and want the truth to be hiodden because they know he is dirty and they don't want to

be embarrassed by the truth. and so they lie to their children and to the rest of us.

and now that evangelicals have served notice I don't see how some republicans can possibly deny us the truth for the sake of the minority of dishonest people.

https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment-white-house-aide-testify-senate-trial-41a51440-efc0-4041-8a93-a41556c81589.html


Unfortunately, the House would rather hear testimony from professors and gossip peddlers to make their rushed case. 

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We have the truth. Trump took a page out of the Democrat playbook and asked a foreign government to look into crimes committed by Biden. The fact he didn't use a Micheal Steele middle man is moot. He did nothing far different than the dnc did against him except he wasn't looking for political dirt and pissing hookers, he was looking for evidence of actual crimes. 

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I have no problem with a long drawn out trial in the Senate. Let's hear from Bolton and Mulvaney. Let's put crackhead hunter Biden and the whistleblower on the stand. All for it in fact. Do Democrats really think only witnesses that could be detrimental to Trump would be called? They need to be careful what they wish for, they just might get it.

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6 minutes ago, neue regel said:


Unfortunately, the House would rather hear testimony from professors and gossip peddlers to make their rushed case. 

not rue. they wanted the eyewitnesses to tetify but trump ordered them to not squeal on him for his crimes. we will have the truth and the evangelicals have given republicans the cover they need to side with truth against the cult of dishonor

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3 minutes ago, NeoConvict said:

I have no problem with a long drawn out trial in the Senate. Let's hear from Bolton and Mulvaney. Let's put crackhead hunter Biden and the whistleblower on the stand. All for it in fact. Do Democrats really think only witnesses that could be detrimental to Trump would be called? They need to be careful what they wish for, they just might get it.

the problem with having hunter biden there is that he wans;t an eyewitness to trumps crimes and was only dragged in to distract and confuse those in the base who are easily distracted and confused. senators on both sides are way to smart to be played by trump and so having hunter tell us what he did 5 years ago won't change the fact that trump is drty and got caught

we will find out exactly how much dirtier he is and right soon

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4 minutes ago, NeoConvict said:

I have no problem with a long drawn out trial in the Senate. Let's hear from Bolton and Mulvaney. Let's put crackhead hunter Biden and the whistleblower on the stand. All for it in fact. Do Democrats really think only witnesses that could be detrimental to Trump would be called? They need to be careful what they wish for, they just might get it.

Everybody EXCEPT the whistleblower.

The whole concept of asking a whistleblower to come forward

IS BASED ON PROTECTION OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER.

 

It is not just a question for NOW,

but for the future of the country.

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1 minute ago, harryramar said:

the problem with having hunter biden there is that he wans;t an eyewitness to trumps crimes and was only dragged in to distract and confuse those in the base who are easily distracted and confused. senators on both sides are way to smart to be played by trump and so having hunter tell us what he did 5 years ago won't change the fact that trump is drty and got caught

we will find out exactly how much dirtier he is and right soon

I think establishing that there was an obvious conflict of interest with Joe Biden potentially using his office to shelter a corrupt Ukraine oil company would make Trump's investigation request of national interest. It's quite relevant. It makes the request more than just a personal political favor but rather an investigation that would benefit all Americans. 

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4 minutes ago, benson13 said:

There was once a time, many decades ago, when Republicans were known as courageous patriots. Weird, huh?

 

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Eisenhower would be labeled a flaming "liberal" for building all those roads.

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1 minute ago, peter45 said:

Everybody EXCEPT the whistleblower.

The whole concept of asking a whistleblower to come forward

IS BASED ON PROTECTION OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER.

 

It is not just a question for NOW,

but for the future of the country.

Examining the political bias of the whistleblower would be relevant as would investigating the alleged coordination with Adam Schiff prior to filing. It would show motive behind this attempt to use impeachment as a partisan political weapon to remove a duly elected president of the United States. 

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3 minutes ago, NeoConvict said:

I think establishing that there was an obvious conflict of interest with Joe Biden potentially using his office to shelter a corrupt Ukraine oil company would make Trump's investigation request of national interest. It's quite relevant. It makes the request more than just a personal political favor but rather an investigation that would benefit all Americans. 

Except that Trump went about it the wrong way.

Had he used one of the government agencies that have the responsibility of investigating,

it would have gotten some bad press,

and have been over with.

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5 minutes ago, NeoConvict said:

Examining the political bias of the whistleblower would be relevant as would investigating the alleged coordination with Adam Schiff prior to filing. It would show motive behind this attempt to use impeachment as a partisan political weapon to remove a duly elected president of the United States. 

Again,

if you attack the whistleblower,

WHEN there is a Democrat in the White House,

He/she will have free reign on EVERYTHING.

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Just now, peter45 said:

Except that Trump went about it the wrong way.

Had he used one of the government agencies that have the responsibility of investigating,

it would have gotten some bad press,

and have been over with.

Agree, but that sounds more like a process violation rather than an impeachable high crime. He should have just had Barr do it without the weird guiliani involvement but that would be armchair quarterbacking on my part. This was a hard ball political move, perhaps even dirty, but it wasn't criminal. 

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31 minutes ago, harryramar said:

 

and now that evangelicals have served notice I don't see how some republicans can possibly deny us the truth for the sake of the minority of dishonest people.

 

 83% of all evangelicos in the United States support Trump... That's up from 80% in 2016. The author of the Christian times article is a well-known leftist and Trump hater who is leaving his job at the publication and use this as a parting shot by a publication that hardly any evangelicals read.

 

Now here's a poll that really hurts the leftists... CNN poll says that 76% of all Americans believe the economy is doing good... That's the largest number in modern history. And as a well-known liberal in the Clinton administration loved to say... It's the economy stupid. Trump 20/20 MAGA Keep America great.

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1 minute ago, NeoConvict said:

Agree, but that sounds more like a process violation rather than an impeachable high crime. He should have just had Barr do it without the weird guiliani involvement but that would be armchair quarterbacking on my part. This was a hard ball political move, perhaps even dirty, but it wasn't criminal. 

If it was, or wasn't criminal,

should be decided with ALL of the evidence presented,

not selectively withheld.

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