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The United States House of Representatives is set to impeach Donald Trump next week, making him only the third American president to suffer this indignity. However, many pundits and pro-Trump media bootlickers are misrepresenting the gravity of this affair. There is a contingent of excusers who seek to dismiss its significance if the Senate doesn't vote to remove Trump from office.

 

Trump himself has been making noises that he is anxious to have the impeachment move from the House to the Senate where he believes he will be coddled by sycophantic Republican loyalists. That, however, is a thinly veiled facade of bravado that is betrayed by his frantic tweetstorming (hitting a record of 123 in one day). Clearly Trump is consumed with fear and anxiety at the thought of being branded for life with impeachment.

 

The argument circulating the GOP drain is that a failure to oust Trump from office is tantamount to an acquittal. But that relies on the false analogy that the House impeachment vote is akin to an indictment, after which the Senate conducts a trial. But a more accurate analogy would be to cast the House as the de facto courtroom and impeachment there is a conviction. After all, the language of the Articles of Impeachment state flatly that "President Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency in a manner offensive to, and subversive of, the Constitution." Note that it doesn't say he is charged with abuse of power, but that he "has abused" his power. Consequently, a "yes" vote is a finding of guilt.

 

The Senate's role is, therefore, not one of a trier of fact, but more that of a sentencing hearing. The House establishes the facts and will shortly rule that Trump is guilty. The Senate decides if he should be punished by removal from office, or pardoned and allowed to complete his term. But the conviction stands.

 

Trump knows this and it is eating him up. That's why he is putting so much pressure on his Senate defenders. It's why Republican majority leader, Mitch McConnell, told Sean Hannity of Fox News that "I'm going to take my cues from the president's lawyers." McConnell went on to say that...

"Everything I do during this I'm coordinating with the White House counsel. There will be no difference between the president's position and our position as to how to handle this [...adding that he'll be in...] total coordination with the White House counsel's office and the people who are representing the president in the well of the Senate."

 

 

Mitch McConnell: Everything I do during this, I’m coordinating with White House Counsel. There will be no difference between the President’s position and our position as to how to handle this

 
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What's more, the GOP Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, Lindsey Graham, told CNN that "I will do everything I can to make it die quickly [...] I’m not trying to pretend to be a fair juror here."

 

So the chairman of the Committee of jurisdiction and the majority leader have both stated publicly that they have no intention to conduct a fair, impartial hearing. In fact, they are openly conspiring with the defendant (Trump) to allow him to escape any punishment for his crimes. Which means they are admitting in advance to violating the oath that they will be taking prior to commencement of the hearing, which states that...

“I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of Donald John Trump, president of the United States, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God.”

This tells you precisely what these Republicans think about the Constitution, the law, and even God.

 

That they are willing to brazenly and shamelessly breach this oath is evidence that their word is meaningless. And in taking this position before they begin deliberating, they are effectively cancelling any validity that their role in this might otherwise have had. As a result, the outcome of the Senate hearing is irrelevant. Which leaves the House vote to impeach as the final word on what will become Trump's tarnished legacy.

 

And if yo think that isn't driving Trump nuts, see his Twitter feed.

 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/12/14/1905688/-Trump-s-Impeachment-in-the-House-is-All-that-Matters-The-Senate-CANNOT-Acquit

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43 minutes ago, skews13 said:

The United States House of Representatives is set to impeach Donald Trump next week, making him only the third American president to suffer this indignity. However, many pundits and pro-Trump media bootlickers are misrepresenting the gravity of this affair. There is a contingent of excusers who seek to dismiss its significance if the Senate doesn't vote to remove Trump from office.

 

Trump himself has been making noises that he is anxious to have the impeachment move from the House to the Senate where he believes he will be coddled by sycophantic Republican loyalists. That, however, is a thinly veiled facade of bravado that is betrayed by his frantic tweetstorming (hitting a record of 123 in one day). Clearly Trump is consumed with fear and anxiety at the thought of being branded for life with impeachment.

 

The argument circulating the GOP drain is that a failure to oust Trump from office is tantamount to an acquittal. But that relies on the false analogy that the House impeachment vote is akin to an indictment, after which the Senate conducts a trial. But a more accurate analogy would be to cast the House as the de facto courtroom and impeachment there is a conviction. After all, the language of the Articles of Impeachment state flatly that "President Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency in a manner offensive to, and subversive of, the Constitution." Note that it doesn't say he is charged with abuse of power, but that he "has abused" his power. Consequently, a "yes" vote is a finding of guilt.

 

The Senate's role is, therefore, not one of a trier of fact, but more that of a sentencing hearing. The House establishes the facts and will shortly rule that Trump is guilty. The Senate decides if he should be punished by removal from office, or pardoned and allowed to complete his term. But the conviction stands.

 

Trump knows this and it is eating him up. That's why he is putting so much pressure on his Senate defenders. It's why Republican majority leader, Mitch McConnell, told Sean Hannity of Fox News that "I'm going to take my cues from the president's lawyers." McConnell went on to say that...

"Everything I do during this I'm coordinating with the White House counsel. There will be no difference between the president's position and our position as to how to handle this [...adding that he'll be in...] total coordination with the White House counsel's office and the people who are representing the president in the well of the Senate."

 

 

Mitch McConnell: Everything I do during this, I’m coordinating with White House Counsel. There will be no difference between the President’s position and our position as to how to handle this

 
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What's more, the GOP Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, Lindsey Graham, told CNN that "I will do everything I can to make it die quickly [...] I’m not trying to pretend to be a fair juror here."

 

So the chairman of the Committee of jurisdiction and the majority leader have both stated publicly that they have no intention to conduct a fair, impartial hearing. In fact, they are openly conspiring with the defendant (Trump) to allow him to escape any punishment for his crimes. Which means they are admitting in advance to violating the oath that they will be taking prior to commencement of the hearing, which states that...

“I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of Donald John Trump, president of the United States, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God.”

This tells you precisely what these Republicans think about the Constitution, the law, and even God.

 

That they are willing to brazenly and shamelessly breach this oath is evidence that their word is meaningless. And in taking this position before they begin deliberating, they are effectively cancelling any validity that their role in this might otherwise have had. As a result, the outcome of the Senate hearing is irrelevant. Which leaves the House vote to impeach as the final word on what will become Trump's tarnished legacy.

 

And if yo think that isn't driving Trump nuts, see his Twitter feed.

 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/12/14/1905688/-Trump-s-Impeachment-in-the-House-is-All-that-Matters-The-Senate-CANNOT-Acquit

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3 minutes ago, leftwinger said:

 

lol lol lol lol

lol. YOU are the most delusional and desperate forum member here. YOU...who have constantly said..."impeachment by nature is a partisan affair".

how many times have you quacked out these words like a retarded duck caught up in an exxson oil spill? lol. ohhhhh..but if that's the way you really

see it, daffy? then you will either acknowledge that part 2 of impeachment will be a partisan affair, thus meaning acquittal is inevitable.....or....you will see

the reality....that reality being....that even your house impeachment vote will have a few dems voting AGAINST trump's impeachment....but not enough for

a majority....but the SENATE acquittal will actually be slightly bipartisan at the very least in vindicating trump. see how this works, daffy? even by your own

standard? trump WILL be acquitted. ha ha. dumb ass

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1 minute ago, lewstherin said:

lol. YOU are the most delusional and desperate forum member here. YOU...who have constantly said..."impeachment by nature is a partisan affair".

how many times have you quacked out these words like a retarded duck caught up in an exxson oil spill? lol. ohhhhh..but if that's the way you really

see it, daffy? then you will either acknowledge that part 2 of impeachment will be a partisan affair, thus meaning acquittal is inevitable.....or....you will see

the reality....that reality being....that even your house impeachment vote will have a few dems voting AGAINST trump's impeachment....but not enough for

a majority....but the SENATE acquittal will actually be slightly bipartisan at the very least in vindicating trump. see how this works, daffy? even by your own

standard? trump WILL be acquitted. ha ha. dumb ass

wingnut still doesn't quite understand how the process works.

 

Seriously.

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1 minute ago, leftwinger said:

 

lol

ha ha. can't wait to see what you do on this forum when it actually happens. i bet you leave. you might come back

as a sock. but this character "leftwinger"? no way you stick around. unless of course.....you truly already are a conservative

member here posing as an extremely stupid sock already, just to make liberalism itself look more retarded than it always has.

now be my little bitch and post "lol" again. haaaaaaaaaaaa

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27 minutes ago, rippy38 said:

Not yet!

 

And even if he is, he will be acquitted, and voted in for a 2nd term!

 

TRUMP 2020

 

MAGA!

If that happens it will be a stain on him in the history books and that will piss him off. Maybe that will cause him to have a heart attack

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44 minutes ago, lewstherin said:

partly. the only president in history to be impeached, acquitted, and reelected. in today's political climate?

i can't think of a legacy to be prouder of. 

 

Wait until they add the only President to be sentenced to prison after leaving office to that legacy.

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This tripe that the house impeachment is a trial and determines guilt and the Senate pronounces a sentence is laughable in the extreme and another fanci-full rewriting of the Constitution by hair on fire activist leftists. They in their hearts no that impeachment means absolutely nothing and that the Senate will brush this lunacy aside post haste and Donald J Trump will be none worse for the wear... After all isn't that what they said about Bill Clinton?... LOL LOL LOL what a bunch of desperate ass wipes who can write such bull$hit

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