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Just heard him say it on the radio.

 

 

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I think he was talking about Trump.

 

 

Hahaahaaaaaa.

 

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President Obama Wants to Continue Imprisoning Immigrant Families

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By Michael Tan, Senior Staff Attorney, ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project
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2 hours ago, kking said:

Definitely impeachable. We should put the kids in grownup prison with their law-breaking parents so they aren't separated. 

 

Then the Progs would say it only fair the little ones get BFed too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, KneeJerk said:

"We're going to impeach him for putting children in cages" - sane compassionate progressivecongressperson

 

Actually Trump should be tried for Crimes Against Humanity for separating children from their families, putting them in very crowded cages and denying them proper medicine......and then keeping such bad records of the whole mess, because nobody working for Trump gave a shyt about the refugees, that most of the children can never be reunited with their grieving parents.

 

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And no, you moronic fascists, President Obama DID NOT DO THE SAME THING!

Falsehoods About Family Separations Linger Online

FactCheck.org

By Angelo Fichera

Posted on August 27, 2019

Quick Take

A viral social media post falsely claims that former President Barack Obama “separated” many more children at the border than President Donald Trump. 

 

Full Story 

The Trump administration announced a new rule on Aug. 21 that would allow the U.S. government to detain immigrant families that illegally cross the border for longer periods of time than currently permitted. It’s the latest attempt by the administration to deter illegal immigration.

 

That rule would keep families detained together, instead of being released pending a court date. And it avoids the issue of children being separated from their parents, which occurred in large numbers last year as a result a Trump administration policy that referred “100 percent of illegal Southwest Border crossings to the Department of Justice for prosecution.”

 

Online, though, misinformation about such separations lingers: One deceptive social media post, shared more than 120,000 times on Facebook, erroneously claims that former President Barack Obama separated many more children than President Donald Trump did.

 

1900 children separated from parents at border,” the text reads next to a photo of Trump. “Result – Media Frenzy.”

Next to a photo of Obama, it reads: “89,000 children separated from parents at border. Result – Silence.”

 

As we’ve written before, there were some separations under the Obama administration, but no blanket policy to prosecute parents and, therefore, separate them from their children.

 

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ inspector general released a report in January noting that, “historically” such family “separations were rare and occurred because of circumstances such as the parent’s medical emergency or a determination that the parent was a threat to the child’s safety.”

 

But, the report notes, that changed as a result of the Trump administration’s zero tolerance” policy last spring. The Department of Homeland Security “separated large numbers of alien families, with adults being held in Federal detention while their children were transferred to the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) within the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS),” according to the report.

 

That report also said the department had “thus far identified 2,737 children in its care at that time who were separated from their parents. However, thousands of children may have been separated during an influx that began in 2017 … and HHS has faced challenges in identifying separated children.” The government is under a court order to identify other children who had been separated, but either way, we know the total far surpasses the 1,900 figure used in the meme.

 

As for the number of children who were separated under Obama, there have been no official figures released — but, as we said, the HHS inspector general noted that such separations were rare.

 

The “89,000” figure used in the meme is similar to previous claims that “90,000” children were separated under Obama — a number the Associated Press last year pointed out may have been incorrectly pulled from a 2016 Senate report. The report said that, since the beginning of fiscal year 2014, the Obama administration had placed “almost 90,000” unaccompanied children “with sponsors in the United States.”

 

At the time, the U.S. was experiencing an influx of unaccompanied children arriving at the border from Central America. The “90,000” figure largely represented children who had arrived at the border without a parent or guardian (though, as we said earlier, there may have been limited cases in which children were separated for the child’s safety).

 

That process for releasing unaccompanied children to sponsors continues. For reference, HHS data show that 133,502 unaccompanied children were released to sponsors during the 36 months between October 2013 and September 2016. The figure for the 33 months from October 2016 to June 2019 (the most recent data available) was 132,340.

 

Amid backlash, Trump ended the widespread practice of family separations through an executive order in June 2018. 

 

Court filings show that some separations have continued to occur.

 

The administration’s new rule to detain families until their cases are complete would replace the 1997 Flores settlement agreement, which has limited the circumstances and duration for which children can be detained to about 20 days. The government would be able to use certain Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, which are not licensed by the states, to house families together.

 

Attorneys in the Flores case have already signaled they will challenge the rule; a federal judge in California is expected to determine whether it lives up to the settlement agreement.

 

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.

Sources

Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Kevin K. McAleenan on the DHS-HHS Federal Rule on Flores Agreement.” U.S. Department of Homeland Security. 21 Aug 2019.

 

Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry.” Press release, U.S. Department of Justice. 6 Apr 2018.

 

Attorney General Sessions Delivers Remarks Discussing the Immigration Enforcement Actions of the Trump Administration.” U.S. Department of Justice. 7 May 2018

 

Gore, D’Angelo. “Trump Blames Own Border Policy on Democrats.” FactCheck.org. 22 May 2018.

 

Herman Peck, Sarah, and Ben Harrington. “The ‘Flores Settlement’ and Alien Families Apprehended at the U.S. Border: - Frequently Asked Questions.” Congressional Research Service. 17 Sep 2018.

 

Remarks by President Trump Before Marine One Departure.” White House. 21 Aug 2019.

 

Robertson, Lori. “Did the Obama Administration Separate Families?” FactCheck.org. 20 Jun 2018.

 

Office of Inspector General, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. “Separated Children Placed in Office of Refugee Resettlement Care | OEI-BL-18-00511.” January 2019.

 

Office of Refugee Resettlement, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. “Unaccompanied Alien Children Released to Sponsors By State.” 26 Jul 2019.

 

U.S. Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. “Apprehension, Processing, Care, and Custody of Alien Minors and Unaccompanied Alien Children.” Federal Register. 23 Aug 2019.

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7 minutes ago, Z09 said:

Why did Obama put kids in cages and the media didn't care?

Because real impartial investigative journalism died long ago... It's been replaced by hair on fire leftist scum who inhabit the corridors of the mob media... They're not journalists they are advocates for the left. Can you say propaganda?

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8 minutes ago, Z09 said:

Why did Obama put kids in cages and the media didn't care?

 

Because it pretty much never happened, troll.

 

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ inspector general released a report in January noting that, “historically” such family “separations were rare and occurred because of circumstances such as the parent’s medical emergency or a determination that the parent was a threat to the child’s safety.”

 

And the Obama Administration did not mistreat them or deny them medical care or keep children imprisoned for months and months or conspire to keep the children permanently seperated from their families, like Trump did..

 

Instead they tried to find sponsors and place children who mostly arrived unaccompanied at the border with loving American families.

 

.....a 2016 Senate report said that, since the beginning of fiscal year 2014, the Obama administration had placed “almost 90,000” unaccompanied children “with sponsors in the United States.” At the time, the U.S. was experiencing an influx of unaccompanied children arriving at the border from Central America. The “90,000” figure largely represented children who had arrived at the border without a parent or guardian (though, as we said earlier, there may have been limited cases in which children were separated for the child’s safety). That process for releasing unaccompanied children to sponsors continued. For reference, HHS data show that 133,502 unaccompanied children were released to sponsors during the 36 months between October 2013 and September 2016. 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, ConConfounder said:

Robertson, Lori. “Did the Obama Administration Separate Families?” FactCheck.org. 20 Jun 2018.

 

" Experts say there were some separations under previous administrations, but no blanket policy to prosecute parents and, therefore, separate them from their children." 

This is the same as saying, "there were fewer separations because they weren't enforcing existing laws."

 

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1 hour ago, Phoenix68 said:

 

 

 

 

There was no extortion article. Nor a bribery article. Nor was any other crime in the articles. After all those were poll-tested and used fervently by the Dems, they didn't have enough evidence to put even one of the ":crimes" in an article. They look like a bunch of dim-witted adolescents in a circle jerk with limp peckers not being able to finish the job. You should be embarrassed for them......but you, also, are dim-witted.

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10 minutes ago, kking said:

 

" Experts say there were some separations under previous administrations, but no blanket policy to prosecute parents and, therefore, separate them from their children." 

This is the same as saying, "there were fewer separations because they weren't enforcing existing laws."

 

 

Nope! Wrong again, you poor little retard.

 

...the issue of children being separated from their parents, which occurred in large numbers last year as a result a Trump administration policy that referred “100 percent of illegal Southwest Border crossings to the Department of Justice for prosecution.”

 

The "existing law" that you idiotically distort distinguished between the usual would-be immigrants and legitimate refugees arriving at our border who were fleeing murderous conditions or starvation or war. 

 

Persecuting and prosecuting legitimate refugees and harming children by seperating them from their families, often permanently, is all Trump's policies. And you stooges wonder why he is often referred to as President Evil.

 

 

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1 minute ago, ConConfounder said:

 

Nope! Wrong again, you poor little retard.

 

...the issue of children being separated from their parents, which occurred in large numbers last year as a result a Trump administration policy that referred “100 percent of illegal Southwest Border crossings to the Department of Justice for prosecution.”

 

The "existing law" that you idiotically distort distinguished between the usual would-be immigrants and legitimate refugees arriving at our border who were fleeing murderous conditions or starvation or war. 

 

Persecuting and prosecuting legitimate refugees and harming children by seperating them from their families, often permanently, is all Trump's policies. And you stooges wonder why he is often referred to as President Evil.

 

 

 

What percentage of the children put in cages were children of "legitimate refugees" or entered through a port of entry?

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10 minutes ago, Libswatter said:

 

There was no extortion article. Nor a bribery article. Nor was any other crime in the articles. After all those were poll-tested and used fervently by the Dems, they didn't have enough evidence to put even one of the ":crimes" in an article. They look like a bunch of dim-witted adolescents in a circle jerk with limp peckers not being able to finish the job. You should be embarrassed for them......but you, also, are dim-witted.

 

Too bad you are so utterly insane, LittleShyt.

 

Was it watching FauxNews that drove you insane?......or listening to Rush?......or is it simply congenital insanity that runs (or more likely gallops) in your family.

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5 minutes ago, kking said:

 

What percentage of the children put in cages were children of "legitimate refugees" or entered through a port of entry?

 

How could anyone know that, moron, when the Trumpster has prevented legitimate refugees from even having a chance to make their case in court. He just put everyone arriving at the border in detention, seperated their children, put them all in crowded cages and "lost" the records that would have allowed the children to be reunited with their parents.

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12 minutes ago, ConConfounder said:

 

How could anyone know that, moron, when the Trumpster has prevented legitimate refugees from even having a chance to make their case in court. He just put everyone arriving at the border in detention, seperated their children, put them all in crowded cages and "lost" the records that would have allowed the children to be reunited with their parents.

 

Well, they seemed to have had enough of that information to judge that Trump was responsible for children of refugees being put in cages at disproportionate rates, so how do they come to that conclusion without the numbers?

 

And it was NOT across the board, everyone showing up at the border put into detention. Just illegal immigrants and refugees so they can be processed.

 

I'm not going to defend the "lost records." 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, maineman said:

class act, nurse.  editing posts is nothing but an admission that you've lost the argument.

 

you pathetic twit.

Class act you didn’t notice the idiot was editing my posts first you MORON. 😂

 

Thanks for admitting I won the argument. 

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