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On 12/11/2019 at 3:51 PM, drvoke said:

 

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This puts climate change deniers firmly in their place.

 

 

 

Like this ignorant adolescent wingnut

put Constitutional Gun Owners in our place...?

 

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39 minutes ago, ConConfounder said:

 

There, pogorocks....corrected your lies for accuracy and sanity.

 

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Ha!

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1 hour ago, Karl Childers said:

I never was a Climate Change "denier"..

 

Realty though is China, India, and Mexico gonna BURN "black soot"..

 

Why should we as "Americans" put a NOOSE around our NECKS

 

 

You are correct. Without their participation, the rest of the world's efforts would be for naught.

 

 

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On 12/16/2019 at 11:22 AM, ConConfounder said:

The world's scientists have determined that human caused global warming is very real and is accelerating as carbon emissions continue and atmospheric CO2 levels keep rising rapidly, and that warming is causing disastrous and increasing climate disruptions and catastrophic increases in sea levels. Those are obsevable facts.

 

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20 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

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Those MOFOs are delirious and in denial.

 

 

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On 12/11/2019 at 6:51 PM, drvoke said:

 

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This puts climate change deniers firmly in their place.

 

 

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Just now, SBED said:

1938 - Time Man of the Year

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  Haha.

Too bad for trumpy.

Not even considered.

If he were Time magazine would be the greatest mag. ever,right.

But trump is in the dumpster never to be considered for any award from here on out.

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On 12/16/2019 at 6:52 PM, Blue Devil said:

 

 

Like this ignorant adolescent wingnut

put Constitutional Gun Owners in our place...?

 

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Ha!

 

 

You shouldn't speak ill of your future Congressman. 

 

 

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On 12/14/2019 at 1:22 PM, kking said:

4. Why did you mention her age or "child"hood if you weren't also implying that those traits make her immune from criticism and insult? Why the hell else would you bring that up?

 

8. And now: "analogies aren't allowed. I will not address them unless they're in a stand-alone thread." Why not? "Because if two contradictory opinions appear in the same thread at the same time, I might have to adjust my reaction to one of the stories." 

 

You don't need to hide behind obtusely strict readings of our discussion. There are such things as rhetoric and analogy and all normal people recognize those things and respond either in kind, or with clear empirical evidence. But to assert that someone is a liar for drawing analogies, or characterizing your words in words other than the exact ones you used, is really, really cheap and evasive. Here's a scenario: a conservative is debating a liberal about war. The liberal asks him, "Hey, you're so anti-war when it comes to Syria. But I bet you were in favour of the Bush invasion of Iraq!" Would it be honest and legitimate of the conservative to say, "Don't change topics. If you want my opinion on Iraq, start a new thread."?

 

On 12/14/2019 at 1:26 PM, DemoMan said:

 

 

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On 12/11/2019 at 5:51 PM, drvoke said:

 

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This puts climate change deniers firmly in their place.

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/greta-thunberg-is-times-2019-person-of-the-year/ar-AAK1nuh?ocid=spartanntp

(Full article at above link)

 

 

Greta Thunberg sits in silence in the cabin of the boat that will take her across the Atlantic Ocean. Inside, there’s a cow skull hanging on the wall, a faded globe, a child’s yellow raincoat. Outside, it’s a tempest: rain pelts the boat, ice coats the decks, and the sea batters the vessel that will take this slight girl, her father and a few companions from Virginia to Portugal. For a moment, it’s as if Thunberg were the eye of a hurricane, a pool of resolve at the center of swirling chaos. In here, she speaks quietly. Out there, the entire natural world seems to amplify her small voice, screaming along with her.

“We can’t just continue living as if there was no tomorrow, because there is a tomorrow,” she says, tugging on the sleeve of her blue sweatshirt. “That is all we are saying.”

It’s a simple truth, delivered by a teenage girl in a fateful moment. The sailboat, La Vagabonde, will shepherd Thunberg to the Port of Lisbon, and from there she will travel to Madrid, where the United Nations is hosting this year’s climate conference. It is the last such summit before nations commit to new plans to meet a major deadline set by the Paris Agreement. Unless they agree on transformative action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, the world’s temperature rise since the Industrial Revolution will hit the 1.5°C mark—an eventuality that scientists warn will expose some 350 million additional people to drought and push roughly 120 million people into extreme poverty by 2030. For every fraction of a degree that temperatures increase, these problems will worsen. This is not fearmongering; this is science. For decades, researchers and activists have struggled to get world leaders to take the climate threat seriously. But this year, an unlikely teenager somehow got the world’s attention. 

Thunberg began a global movement by skipping school: starting in August 2018, she spent her days camped out in front of the Swedish Parliament, holding a sign painted in black letters on a white background that read Skolstrejk för klimatet: “School Strike for Climate.” In the 16 months since, she has addressed heads of state at the U.N., met with the Pope, sparred with the President of the United States and inspired 4 million people to join the global climate strike on September 20, 2019, in what was the largest climate demonstration in human history. Her image has been celebrated in murals and Halloween costumes, and her name has been attached to everything from bike shares to beetles. Margaret Atwood compared her to Joan of Arc. After noticing a hundredfold increase in its usage, lexicographers at Collins Dictionary named Thunberg’s pioneering idea, climate strike, the word of the year.

The politics of climate action are as entrenched and complex as the phenomenon itself, and Thunberg has no magic solution. But she has succeeded in creating a global attitudinal shift, transforming millions of vague, middle-of-the-night anxieties into a worldwide movement calling for urgent change. She has offered a moral clarion call to those who are willing to act, and hurled shame on those who are not. She has persuaded leaders, from mayors to Presidents, to make commitments where they had previously fumbled: after she spoke to Parliament and demonstrated with the British environmental group Extinction Rebellion, the U.K. passed a law requiring that the country eliminate its carbon footprint. She has focused the world’s attention on environmental injustices that young indigenous activists have been protesting for years. Because of her, hundreds of thousands of teenage “Gretas,” from Lebanon to Liberia, have skipped school to lead their peers in climate strikes around the world.

“This moment does feel different,” former Vice President Al Gore, who won the Nobel Peace Prize for his decades of climate advocacy work, tells TIME. “Throughout history, many great morally based movements have gained traction at the very moment when young people decided to make that movement their cause.”

Thunberg is 16 but looks 12. She usually wears her light brown hair pulled into two braids, parted in the middle. She has Asperger’s syndrome, which means she doesn’t operate on the same emotional register as many of the people she meets. She dislikes crowds; ignores small talk; and speaks in direct, uncomplicated sentences. She cannot be flattered or distracted. She is not impressed by other people’s celebrity, nor does she seem to have interest in her own growing fame. But these very qualities have helped make her a global sensation. Where others smile to cut the tension, Thunberg is withering. Where others speak the language of hope, Thunberg repeats the unassailable science: Oceans will rise. Cities will flood. Millions of people will suffer.

“I want you to panic,” she told the annual convention of CEOs and world leaders at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, in January. “I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act.”

 

 

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I would advise Trump to tread very carefully around this.

 

 


She gets this honor for doing nothing but yelling at people, while the teen that has invented a way to remove plastic from the ocean and is actually doing something that is not yelling and protesting, doesn’t even get acknowledged by the left:

 

https://time.com/5389782/boyan-slat-plastic-ocean-cleanup/

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2 hours ago, Deadric said:


She gets this honor for doing nothing but yelling at people, while the teen that has invented a way to remove plastic from the ocean and is actually doing something that is not yelling and protesting, doesn’t even get acknowledged by the left:

 

https://time.com/5389782/boyan-slat-plastic-ocean-cleanup/

 

 

Time Person of the Year should still go to Greta because of her pubic exposure and directing people's attention to a very serious problem. But thanks for the link, I am going to share that. This guy deserves more than a Time's POTY. He deserves a Nobel Prize down the road if he makes a significant impact.

 

 

 

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On 12/14/2019 at 1:22 PM, kking said:

4. Why did you mention her age or "child"hood if you weren't also implying that those traits make her immune from criticism and insult? Why the hell else would you bring that up?

 

8. And now: "analogies aren't allowed. I will not address them unless they're in a stand-alone thread." Why not? "Because if two contradictory opinions appear in the same thread at the same time, I might have to adjust my reaction to one of the stories." 

 

You don't need to hide behind obtusely strict readings of our discussion. There are such things as rhetoric and analogy and all normal people recognize those things and respond either in kind, or with clear empirical evidence. But to assert that someone is a liar for drawing analogies, or characterizing your words in words other than the exact ones you used, is really, really cheap and evasive. Here's a scenario: a conservative is debating a liberal about war. The liberal asks him, "Hey, you're so anti-war when it comes to Syria. But I bet you were in favour of the Bush invasion of Iraq!" Would it be honest and legitimate of the conservative to say, "Don't change topics. If you want my opinion on Iraq, start a new thread."?

 

On 12/14/2019 at 1:26 PM, DemoMan said:

 

 

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On 12/11/2019 at 4:51 PM, drvoke said:

 

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This puts climate change deniers firmly in their place.

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/greta-thunberg-is-times-2019-person-of-the-year/ar-AAK1nuh?ocid=spartanntp

(Full article at above link)

 

 

Greta Thunberg sits in silence in the cabin of the boat that will take her across the Atlantic Ocean. Inside, there’s a cow skull hanging on the wall, a faded globe, a child’s yellow raincoat. Outside, it’s a tempest: rain pelts the boat, ice coats the decks, and the sea batters the vessel that will take this slight girl, her father and a few companions from Virginia to Portugal. For a moment, it’s as if Thunberg were the eye of a hurricane, a pool of resolve at the center of swirling chaos. In here, she speaks quietly. Out there, the entire natural world seems to amplify her small voice, screaming along with her.

“We can’t just continue living as if there was no tomorrow, because there is a tomorrow,” she says, tugging on the sleeve of her blue sweatshirt. “That is all we are saying.”

It’s a simple truth, delivered by a teenage girl in a fateful moment. The sailboat, La Vagabonde, will shepherd Thunberg to the Port of Lisbon, and from there she will travel to Madrid, where the United Nations is hosting this year’s climate conference. It is the last such summit before nations commit to new plans to meet a major deadline set by the Paris Agreement. Unless they agree on transformative action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, the world’s temperature rise since the Industrial Revolution will hit the 1.5°C mark—an eventuality that scientists warn will expose some 350 million additional people to drought and push roughly 120 million people into extreme poverty by 2030. For every fraction of a degree that temperatures increase, these problems will worsen. This is not fearmongering; this is science. For decades, researchers and activists have struggled to get world leaders to take the climate threat seriously. But this year, an unlikely teenager somehow got the world’s attention. 

Thunberg began a global movement by skipping school: starting in August 2018, she spent her days camped out in front of the Swedish Parliament, holding a sign painted in black letters on a white background that read Skolstrejk för klimatet: “School Strike for Climate.” In the 16 months since, she has addressed heads of state at the U.N., met with the Pope, sparred with the President of the United States and inspired 4 million people to join the global climate strike on September 20, 2019, in what was the largest climate demonstration in human history. Her image has been celebrated in murals and Halloween costumes, and her name has been attached to everything from bike shares to beetles. Margaret Atwood compared her to Joan of Arc. After noticing a hundredfold increase in its usage, lexicographers at Collins Dictionary named Thunberg’s pioneering idea, climate strike, the word of the year.

The politics of climate action are as entrenched and complex as the phenomenon itself, and Thunberg has no magic solution. But she has succeeded in creating a global attitudinal shift, transforming millions of vague, middle-of-the-night anxieties into a worldwide movement calling for urgent change. She has offered a moral clarion call to those who are willing to act, and hurled shame on those who are not. She has persuaded leaders, from mayors to Presidents, to make commitments where they had previously fumbled: after she spoke to Parliament and demonstrated with the British environmental group Extinction Rebellion, the U.K. passed a law requiring that the country eliminate its carbon footprint. She has focused the world’s attention on environmental injustices that young indigenous activists have been protesting for years. Because of her, hundreds of thousands of teenage “Gretas,” from Lebanon to Liberia, have skipped school to lead their peers in climate strikes around the world.

“This moment does feel different,” former Vice President Al Gore, who won the Nobel Peace Prize for his decades of climate advocacy work, tells TIME. “Throughout history, many great morally based movements have gained traction at the very moment when young people decided to make that movement their cause.”

Thunberg is 16 but looks 12. She usually wears her light brown hair pulled into two braids, parted in the middle. She has Asperger’s syndrome, which means she doesn’t operate on the same emotional register as many of the people she meets. She dislikes crowds; ignores small talk; and speaks in direct, uncomplicated sentences. She cannot be flattered or distracted. She is not impressed by other people’s celebrity, nor does she seem to have interest in her own growing fame. But these very qualities have helped make her a global sensation. Where others smile to cut the tension, Thunberg is withering. Where others speak the language of hope, Thunberg repeats the unassailable science: Oceans will rise. Cities will flood. Millions of people will suffer.

“I want you to panic,” she told the annual convention of CEOs and world leaders at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, in January. “I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act.”

 

 

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I would advise Trump to tread very carefully around this.

 

 

That's what the left is hoping...that's why they're hiding behind a child.

 

BTW...Greta's dad writes her Facebook posts.

 

Greta is a naive tool.

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10 minutes ago, personreal said:

BTW...Greta's dad writes her Facebook posts.

 

Read that the other day...I think it was @ the Huffington Post !

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1 minute ago, Old Mack said:

 

Read that the other day...I think it was @ the Huffington Post !

Yep...Greta is definitely a tool that the leftists are hiding behind.

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6 hours ago, personreal said:

Yep...Greta is definitely a tool that the leftists are hiding behind.

 

Facts don't matter to ultraliberals...only the agenda does.

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Old Mack said:

 

Facts don't matter to ultraliberals...only the agenda does.

 

 

 

Exactly!

 

 

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