personreal Posted December 4 This is far worse than I thought it was... "Studies have found that wind turbines are a dangerous threat to bats, high-conservation value birds, and insect populations that are a major supply of food to bats and birds. Insects, birds, bats, and wind farm developers are attracted to the same thing—high wind speeds. Wind farms in Europe and the United States are being built in the path of migration trails that have been used by insects and birds for millions of years. Researchers found that wind turbines in Germany resulted in a loss of about 1.2 trillion insects of different species each year. Researchers in India found almost four times fewer buzzards, hawks, and kites in areas with wind farms—a loss of about 75 percent. They found that wind turbines are akin to adding a top predator to the ecosystem, killing off birds, but allowing small animals to increase their populations resulting in a trickle effect throughout the ecosystem." "Wind turbines have also become one of the greatest human threats to many species of large, threatened and high-conservation value birds. Wind energy threatens golden eagles, bald eagles, burrowing owls, red-tailed hawks, white-tailed kites, peregrine falcons, and prairie falcons, among others. The expansion of wind turbines could result in the extinction of the golden eagle in the western United States, where its population is at a very low level." "Wind developers and operators should not be given a free rein to kill birds, bats, and insects and to disrupt the ecosystem. They should be held accountable for these deaths and be fined as any other industry. The problem will only get worse as more wind farms are forced onto the grid as state mandates for renewable energy are achieved." https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/wind/wind-turbines-against-nature/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAz53vBRCpARIsAPPsz8U0PPQnZcrHSc8PnBsRLpSUamvkSiHRXKDq-ECHo2AyU11SxYfGtcUaAouvEALw_wcB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, personreal said: This is far worse than I thought it was... "Studies have found that wind turbines are a dangerous threat to bats, high-conservation value birds, and insect populations that are a major supply of food to bats and birds. Insects, birds, bats, and wind farm developers are attracted to the same thing—high wind speeds. Wind farms in Europe and the United States are being built in the path of migration trails that have been used by insects and birds for millions of years. Researchers found that wind turbines in Germany resulted in a loss of about 1.2 trillion insects of different species each year. Researchers in India found almost four times fewer buzzards, hawks, and kites in areas with wind farms—a loss of about 75 percent. They found that wind turbines are akin to adding a top predator to the ecosystem, killing off birds, but allowing small animals to increase their populations resulting in a trickle effect throughout the ecosystem." "Wind turbines have also become one of the greatest human threats to many species of large, threatened and high-conservation value birds. Wind energy threatens golden eagles, bald eagles, burrowing owls, red-tailed hawks, white-tailed kites, peregrine falcons, and prairie falcons, among others. The expansion of wind turbines could result in the extinction of the golden eagle in the western United States, where its population is at a very low level." "Wind developers and operators should not be given a free rein to kill birds, bats, and insects and to disrupt the ecosystem. They should be held accountable for these deaths and be fined as any other industry. The problem will only get worse as more wind farms are forced onto the grid as state mandates for renewable energy are achieved." https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/wind/wind-turbines-against-nature/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAz53vBRCpARIsAPPsz8U0PPQnZcrHSc8PnBsRLpSUamvkSiHRXKDq-ECHo2AyU11SxYfGtcUaAouvEALw_wcB Why does benson always leave this stuff out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benson13 Posted December 4 ""A TRUE RPUBLIKLAN LEADER"" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 2 minutes ago, benson13 said: Damage control...all hands on deck! Benson got called out again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benson13 Posted December 4 Watch Rachel Maddow summarize the impeachment report in 78 words — spoken in 46 seconds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankk Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, benson13 said: ""A TRUE RPUBLIKLAN LEADER"" What does that even remotely have to do with the Slaughter of nature because of wind and solar? You loons are morons that cry and bitch about wanting wind and solar until you realize you have to sit on the beach and look at it or watch woodland and farmland get covered up by acres of solar panels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, Hankk said: What does that even remotely have to do with the Slaughter of nature because of wind and solar? You loons are morons that cry and bitch about wanting wind and solar until you realize you have to sit on the beach and look at it or watch woodland and farmland get covered up by acres of solar panels. Benson is in damage control. Exponentially more birds are killed by wind turbines than oil...this doesn't even count the birds killed by solar panels. "Which Kills More Birds? Oil Spills, or Windmills?" https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/windmills-and-solar-plans-kill-far-birds-than-oil-spills/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 9 minutes ago, Hankk said: What does that even remotely have to do with the Slaughter of nature because of wind and solar? You loons are morons that cry and bitch about wanting wind and solar until you realize you have to sit on the beach and look at it or watch woodland and farmland get covered up by acres of solar panels. Looks like the evidence sends benson on the run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix68 Posted December 4 30 minutes ago, personreal said: This is far worse than I thought it was... https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/wind/wind-turbines-against-nature/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAz53vBRCpARIsAPPsz8U0PPQnZcrHSc8PnBsRLpSUamvkSiHRXKDq-ECHo2AyU11SxYfGtcUaAouvEALw_wcB Jon Haubert Jonathan D. Haubert Quote "HEARTLAND INSTITUTE??!!!!!" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Heartland_Institute https://www.rightwingwatch.org/organizations/heartland-institute/ "FAKE NEWS, PIZZA-FACE!!!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 18 minutes ago, Hankk said: What does that even remotely have to do with the Slaughter of nature because of wind and solar? You loons are morons that cry and bitch about wanting wind and solar until you realize you have to sit on the beach and look at it or watch woodland and farmland get covered up by acres of solar panels. Phoenix is helping benson with damage control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix68 Posted December 4 Just now, personreal said: Phoenix is helping benson with damage control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankk Posted December 4 Just now, personreal said: Phoenix is helping benson with damage control. Oh great, pictures of laughing pointing kids, giant emojis incoming. benson is putting together a barrage of unrelated memes. Damn it! I forgot the leave brittney alone guy and crybaby tissues. Touche pheonix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 2 minutes ago, Hankk said: Oh great, pictures of laughing pointing kids, giant emojis incoming. benson is putting together a barrage of unrelated memes. Damn it! I forgot the leave brittney alone guy and crybaby tissues. Touche pheonix. Phoenix is challenged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123urout Posted December 4 16 minutes ago, personreal said: Phoenix is challenged. He is just plain stupid, and so is Bensin. Demorat policy ruins the lives of everything on the planet, and those 2 buttheads are screaming for it like the fools that they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, 123urout said: He is just plain stupid, and so is Bensin. Demorat policy ruins the lives of everything on the planet, and those 2 buttheads are screaming for it like the fools that they are. What do you expect from a couple of Russian trolls? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fourputt Posted December 4 Hopefully the insects were mosquitoes, I'm in favor of wind turbines and am probably the only person here who has actually had to climb the base and mid sections of one of these. The bird casualties are unfortunate but unavoidable it appears. Maybe something that either omits a sound that scares them off or a predator mock nearby but they are not being removed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 3 minutes ago, fourputt said: Hopefully the insects were mosquitoes, I'm in favor of wind turbines and am probably the only person here who has actually had to climb the base and mid sections of one of these. The bird casualties are unfortunate but unavoidable it appears. Maybe something that either omits a sound that scares them off or a predator mock nearby but they are not being removed. "The bird casualties are unfortunate but unavoidable it appears." Remember how upset environmentalists were over oil killing birds? There are far more birds being killed by wind and solar, and now they are silent. They are hypocrites. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123urout Posted December 4 Just now, fourputt said: Hopefully the insects were mosquitoes, I'm in favor of wind turbines and am probably the only person here who has actually had to climb the base and mid sections of one of these. The bird casualties are unfortunate but unavoidable it appears. Maybe something that either omits a sound that scares them off or a predator mock nearby but they are not being removed. Arent you Demorats the same fools that were screaming in the 60's about power lines and how bad you hated them, umm yeah it was, I have got to tell you people fkn hate these ugly an noisy wind turbines, they are a joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fourputt Posted December 4 Just now, personreal said: "The bird casualties are unfortunate but unavoidable it appears." Remember how upset environmentalists were over oil killing birds? There are far more birds being killed by wind and solar, and now they are silent. They are hypocrites. How are solar panels killing birds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123urout Posted December 4 Just now, personreal said: "The bird casualties are unfortunate but unavoidable it appears." Remember how upset environmentalists were over oil killing birds? There are far more birds being killed by wind and solar, and now they are silent. They are hypocrites. Demorats are just plain ignorant, Soros runs these little fools around like the idiots that they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 6 minutes ago, fourputt said: How are solar panels killing birds? Aren't you informed on this topic??? This is just one report...there are many more world wide. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/05/17/if-renewables-are-so-great-for-the-environment-why-do-they-keep-destroying-it/#382fd58d3a1c Did you read the OP? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skews13 Posted December 4 1 hour ago, personreal said: Aren't you informed on this topic??? This is just one report...there are many more world wide. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/05/17/if-renewables-are-so-great-for-the-environment-why-do-they-keep-destroying-it/#382fd58d3a1c Did you read the OP? Forbes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 Just now, skews13 said: Forbes? I see you can't handle the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skews13 Posted December 4 1 minute ago, personreal said: o see you can't handle the truth. The truth is fossil fuel consumption is responsible for the extinction of half the bird population in the last 50 years. Glyphosate pollution has destroyed the pollinator population of bee species. Wind and solar are responsible for none of it. There is no bigger fool on NHB than you are. Your ignorance is actually a viable source of scientific study for dementia, and other brain deteriorating diseases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
personreal Posted December 4 1 minute ago, skews13 said: The truth is fossil fuel consumption is responsible for the extinction of half the bird population in the last 50 years. Glyphosate pollution has destroyed the pollinator population of bee species. Wind and solar are responsible for none of it. There is no bigger fool on NHB than you are. Your ignorance is actually a viable source of scientific study for dementia, and other brain deteriorating diseases. Yer a fool and a liar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites