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Grant it, not all of you retards are against citizens owning guns. However, there are a lot of you losers who do. Not just here on this forum, but nationwide. There have been so many examples of how citizens defended themselves with guns against invaders, robbers, rapists...there are many videos showing it. Yet, you ignore ignore ignore and ignore it. When you are done ignoring it, you ignore it some more. 

 

Why cant you retards just admit that you are wrong about citizens not owning guns? Your continue defense of your retarded position is embarrassing.  

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You are much more likely to use the gun on yourself then you are to use it on an assailant that is just a fact

 

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16 minutes ago, slideman said:

You are much more likely to use the gun on yourself then you are to use it on an assailant that is just a fact

 

How does that even remotely connect with the point? 2+2=4 is also a fact, but hardly has anything to do with the point. You are like the rest of them. Ignore ignore ignore. 

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Lets be clear.. the gun debate does not revolve around armed robberies, domestic disturbances, drug deals gone bad, SOB at the bar getting with someone's girl, etc. It is about the seemingly random, indiscriminate killings such as Stephen Paddock, Pulse Night Club, etc. The first set of events... guns save lives because those are events that most see coming and are garden variety.. been happening for centuries. 

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5 minutes ago, Vegas said:

Grant it, not all of you retards are against citizens owning guns. However, there are a lot of you losers who do. Not just here on this forum, but nationwide. There have been so many examples of how citizens defended themselves with guns against invaders, robbers, rapists...there are many videos showing it. Yet, you ignore ignore ignore and ignore it. When you are done ignoring it, you ignore it some more. 

 

Why cant you retards just admit that you are wrong about citizens not owning guns? Your continue defense of your retarded position is embarrassing.  

I'm not ignoring it.  I'm saying you have to show the big picture.  That for every bad guy taken down with a gun at least 3-8 innocent people are killed too.

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Obama's own study through the CDC showed that gun owners saved their lives to the tune of millions a time a year because they had a gun with them.

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15 minutes ago, TrumpBGoneSoon said:

I'm not ignoring it.  I'm saying you have to show the big picture.  That for every bad guy taken down with a gun at least 3-8 innocent people are killed too.

Proof. Link? 

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17 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Lets be clear.. the gun debate does not revolve around armed robberies, domestic disturbances, drug deals gone bad, SOB at the bar getting with someone's girl, etc. It is about the seemingly random, indiscriminate killings such as Stephen Paddock, Pulse Night Club, etc. The first set of events... guns save lives because those are events that most see coming and are garden variety.. been happening for centuries. 

The gun debate revolves around liberals always trying to ban them because they dont care to why the 2nd amendment was put in place. Some still think its about hunting. 

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Just now, Vegas said:

The gun debate revolves around liberals always trying to ban them because they dont care to why the 2nd amendment was put in place. Some still think its about hunting. 

Ask most liberals about the topic and do they mention domestic disturbance in Waco, TX or Stephen Paddock? Which would you guess?

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1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

Ask most liberals about the topic and do they mention domestic disturbance in Waco, TX or Stephen Paddock? Which would you guess?

Most liberals arent interested in rational discussions about guns. Thats why they ignore the statistics and logic because the data is not on their side. 

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1 minute ago, Vegas said:

Most liberals arent interested in rational discussions about guns. Thats why they ignore the statistics and logic because the data is not on their side. 

Can you answer the question... do we talk more about stephen paddock or garden variety domestic disturbances?

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2 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Can you answer the question... do we talk more about stephen paddock or garden variety domestic disturbances?

Neither. I cant remember the last time paddock was brought up. I also cant remember the last time stephen cruz was brought up...or domestic violence. 

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1 minute ago, Vegas said:

Neither. I cant remember the last time paddock was brought up. I also cant remember the last time stephen cruz was brought up...or domestic violence. 

A quick search of the forum shows that Stephen Paddock, Pulse Night Club, VA Beach come up more often than the standard crimes that guns are involved in.. domestic disturbances, drug deals gone bad, armed robberies. 

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1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

A quick search of the forum shows that Stephen Paddock, Pulse Night Club, VA Beach come up more often than the standard crimes that guns are involved in.. domestic disturbances, drug deals gone bad, armed robberies. 

Ok. But why does that justify them wanting to ban guns? They ban guns, they are abandoning logic along with it. 

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3 minutes ago, Vegas said:

Ok. But why does that justify them wanting to ban guns? They ban guns, they are abandoning logic along with it. 

Because they are wanting to prevent the Stephen Paddock's and Pulse Night Club's. Their solution is that if we limit access to them, then these rare but tragic events will not happen. They do not care about garden variety gas station robbery in Lee's Summit, Missouri. I am just outlining the mindset not condoning it. 

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Yeah it's kinda funny you need a gun to stop somebody with a gun. So without the somebody with a gun you wouldn't need to save somebody with a gun. 

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1 hour ago, Vegas said:

Grant it, not all of you retards are against citizens owning guns. However, there are a lot of you losers who do. Not just here on this forum, but nationwide. There have been so many examples of how citizens defended themselves with guns against invaders, robbers, rapists...there are many videos showing it. Yet, you ignore ignore ignore and ignore it. When you are done ignoring it, you ignore it some more. 

 

Why cant you retards just admit that you are wrong about citizens not owning guns? Your continue defense of your retarded position is embarrassing.  

Libs, why do you ignore all the examples about how guns saved lives?

 

Answer:   Their DNC downloads don't allow leftists to acknowledge it.   

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40 minutes ago, Giujo said:

Obama's own study through the CDC showed that gun owners saved their lives to the tune of millions a time a year because they had a gun with them.

that is such bullshit.

first the cdc was prevented form studying gun deaths by the republicans for obvious reasons.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/12/health/gun-violence-research-cdc.html

and second. millions of times? 

bwahahahahahhahaaa

lets see  DUMBASSS  1 million times in a year would be 20,000 per state or 55 times per day per state. 

that is absurd even for a DUMBASS like you. think again before calling anyone a dumbass, you DUMBASSS

 

bwahahahahahahahaa

millions of time a year. what a fucking DUMBASSS

Happy thanksgiving DUMBASSS

 

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6 minutes ago, TrumpBGoneSoon said:

None of that really supports your claim. The closest that I read on there that could support what you said was that there were 40,000 gun deaths that were unintentional. Basically, idiots who don't know how to use a gun when out hunting or something. However, Most gun deaths in the US are suicides. That does not support your claim, we really cannot count that. If it wasnt a gun, then it would be a rope, sleeping pills, or cutting the wrist. Sorry my friend, but this didn't do it for you.

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10 minutes ago, harryramar said:

that is such bullshit.

first the cdc was prevented form studying gun deaths by the republicans for obvious reasons.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/12/health/gun-violence-research-cdc.html

and second. millions of times? 

bwahahahahahhahaaa

lets see  DUMBASSS  1 million times in a year would be 20,000 per state or 55 times per day per state. 

that is absurd even for a DUMBASS like you. think again before calling anyone a dumbass, you DUMBASSS

 

bwahahahahahahahaa

millions of time a year. what a fucking DUMBASSS

Happy thanksgiving DUMBASSS

 

Lol

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53 minutes ago, Vegas said:

None of that really supports your claim. The closest that I read on there that could support what you said was that there were 40,000 gun deaths that were unintentional. Basically, idiots who don't know how to use a gun when out hunting or something. However, Most gun deaths in the US are suicides. That does not support your claim, we really cannot count that. If it wasnt a gun, then it would be a rope, sleeping pills, or cutting the wrist. Sorry my friend, but this didn't do it for you.

Try this.

Giffords-Stats-Page-Breakdown.png

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1 minute ago, TrumpBGoneSoon said:

Try this.

Giffords-Stats-Page-Breakdown.png

Sorry good buddy, but no good. Your claim was that innocents were killed more than the criminals. Homicides are too vague. How do we know that those homicides weren't gang related or domestic violence?  Also, suicide is 61% and homicides are 35%, so why does the graph show the suicides shorter than the homicides? This graph is delibrately misleading. That happens often. Though the blue is wider and the data is the same, it is misleading because at first glance it appears that the homicides are more, when they are not. This is a common tactic that both sides use. They stretch the Y-axis higher , but extend the x-axis. That makes the graph look misleading according to what you want to stick out. I cannot isolate the left for doing this because both sides do this equally. 

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Just now, Vegas said:

Sorry good buddy, but no good. Your claim was that innocents were killed more than the criminals. Homicides are too vague. How do we know that those homicides weren't gang related or domestic violence?  Also, suicide is 61% and homicides are 35%, so why does the graph show the suicides shorter than the homicides? This graph is delibrately misleading. That happens often. Though the blue is wider and the data is the same, it is misleading because at first glance it appears that the homicides are more, when they are not. This is a common tactic that both sides use. They stretch the Y-axis higher , but extend the x-axis. That makes the graph look misleading according to what you want to stick out. I cannot isolate the left for doing this because both sides do this equally. 

Suicides are innocents too.  Self violence does count.

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1 minute ago, TrumpBGoneSoon said:

Suicides are innocents too.  Self violence does count.

Not when it comes to gun violence. If they didn't have access to a gun, then it would be a noose, sleeping pills, or slitting the wrist.

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