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9 minutes ago, peter45 said:

"conservatives" don't understand that buy backs are "funny money" that will disappear about the time they want to retire.

YOUR OPINION...

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6 hours ago, WillFranklin said:

 

 

Until you can show links to these polls and their methods I could care less what you say.

😂🤣Poor Willie, Your impeachment pipe dream is getting smoked!

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1 hour ago, DeepBreath said:

😂🤣Poor Willie, Your impeachment pipe dream is getting smoked!

 

 

I couldn't care less I am a Bernie volunteer.

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On 11/18/2019 at 1:38 PM, WillFranklin said:

DOW at 28,034 or something today as more witnesses testify. Other indexes high.

There is no correlation between the two. It is the pure ignorance to think there is a link. 

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1 hour ago, Redoctober said:

There is no correlation between the two. It is the pure ignorance to think there is a link. 

 

It's funny that Trump says so much depends on him, like the markets.

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1 hour ago, WillFranklin said:

 

 

I couldn't care less I am a Bernie volunteer.

Bernie has zero chance of getting the nomination, let alone presidency. 

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On 11/27/2019 at 9:44 AM, peter45 said:

What does the stock market have to do with capitalism?

 

ah plenty? where do you think Companies get the money for their expansion?

You really dont understand the functions of the stock market or the history

 

On 11/27/2019 at 9:44 AM, peter45 said:

Diverting the dividends into stock buybacks is supposed to be capitalism?

That is good for the widows and orphans?

Investing for the long run?

 

that has nothing to do with capitalism? that is just a function of the stock markets and innovations 

 

On 11/27/2019 at 9:44 AM, peter45 said:

We don't need to make no stinkin products anymore, we just manipulate the stock prices.

 

 

Again, nothing to do with capitalism

 

 

On 11/27/2019 at 9:44 AM, peter45 said:

Baby Boomers have been shoveling dollars into the market for years for their retirements. The brokers needed to find somewhere to stick those dollars, so buy some crap, and pretend that your a financial expert. Holy crap, they are going to retire, and want that money back!

 

so when pension funds invests their employees money its okay but when others decide to do it on their own and lose money its a bad thing? LMFAO

 

This is why Civilians shouldnt play the stock market, if you dont understand it why play in it?

 

On 11/27/2019 at 9:44 AM, peter45 said:

Crank up the FED to print some dollars to cover the cash outflow.

Better privatize Social Security to cover the cash outflow from the Boomer's retirements.

 

This has nothing to do capitalism, you are describing a government policy, how  is that a form of capitalism?

 

 

I suspect you really dont know much about capitalism Peter, you have problems with policies 

 

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2 hours ago, DeepBreath said:

Bernie has zero chance of getting the nomination, let alone presidency. 

 

 

Lots of us were making Bernie calls last night to Iowa for the caucus Feb. 3.

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9 minutes ago, DeepBreath said:

😂You go, girl! 

 

What are you fighting for?

 

Are you even fighting?

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3 hours ago, WillFranklin said:

 

It's funny that Trump says so much depends on him, like the markets.

Yes, Trump does say stupid things. You and Trump have a lot in common. 

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8 minutes ago, Redoctober said:

Yes, Trump does say stupid things. You and Trump have a lot in common. 

 

Let me say something smart to you:

 

Bernie-MARIJUANA2.jpg

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2 minutes ago, WillFranklin said:

 

Let me say something smart to you:

 

Bernie-MARIJUANA2.jpg

 

Nope, still Trump like. 

 

Pot is already legal in my state. It is also the most pathetic thing to worry about.

 

I do like how you pretend to be joe cool while trolling the forums but you have temper tantrums on the mod boards. LOL I gives me delight how fake you are. LOL

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12 hours ago, chairmanOFTB said:

 

ah plenty? where do you think Companies get the money for their expansion?

You really dont understand the functions of the stock market or the history

 

 

that has nothing to do with capitalism? that is just a function of the stock markets and innovations 

 

 

 

Again, nothing to do with capitalism

 

 

 

so when pension funds invests their employees money its okay but when others decide to do it on their own and lose money its a bad thing? LMFAO

 

This is why Civilians shouldnt play the stock market, if you dont understand it why play in it?

 

 

This has nothing to do capitalism, you are describing a government policy, how  is that a form of capitalism?

 

 

I suspect you really dont know much about capitalism Peter, you have problems with policies 

 

I stated that the stock market has nothing to do with capitalism.

Most of YOUR replies state "nothing to do with capitalism".

 

Maybe you should consider your own words.

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9 hours ago, peter45 said:

I stated that the stock market has nothing to do with capitalism.

 

And I replied you are incorrect Peter, Stock markets are necessary if Capitalism is going to survive, what isnt acceptable is the people using the stock market for their own gains, because legislation wont or cant deal with it

 

The wealth of Nations by Adam Smith is considered the granddaddy book on Laissez faire capitalism, I suspect chances are that you havent read it as its a difficult book to read for the average non financial person, but if you can find someone ( besides me) who has actually read it , ask them to explain where in Adam Smith's book where " 

Diverting the dividends into stock buybacks is supposed to be capitalism?"

 

Or central banks manipulating the money supply and since we are talking about America where does it say in his book that Congress or the federal government dictates the value of money or throwing in Interstate banking clauses?

 

Maybe you can point that out to me as I must have missed it

 

 

10 hours ago, peter45 said:

Most of YOUR replies state "nothing to do with capitalism".

 

Maybe you should consider your own words.

 

so challenge me Peter, if you believe Im wrong, point out where Im wrong, dont just post it 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, chairmanOFTB said:

 

And I replied you are incorrect Peter, Stock markets are necessary if Capitalism is going to survive, what isnt acceptable is the people using the stock market for their own gains, because legislation wont or cant deal with it

 

The wealth of Nations by Adam Smith is considered the granddaddy book on Laissez faire capitalism, I suspect chances are that you havent read it as its a difficult book to read for the average non financial person, but if you can find someone ( besides me) who has actually read it , ask them to explain where in Adam Smith's book where " 

Diverting the dividends into stock buybacks is supposed to be capitalism?"

 

Or central banks manipulating the money supply and since we are talking about America where does it say in his book that Congress or the federal government dictates the value of money or throwing in Interstate banking clauses?

 

Maybe you can point that out to me as I must have missed it

 

 

 

so challenge me Peter, if you believe Im wrong, point out where Im wrong, dont just post it 

 

 

I am not completely clear on what you are asking.

 

The documentation regarding the diversion of dividends into stock buy backs started with G. W. Bush, as can be seen by comparing dividends since about the year 2000 to the present.

https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-dividend-yield/table/by-year

People purchased stocks with the intention of living off the continuously DEPENDABLE dividends, rather than the Las Vegas gambling on inflated prices.

 

Stocks can be bought and sold directly from the company receiving the investment.

There is no need for a stock market.

If you buy a stock for $1, and ten years later the company is selling more stock for $100, then "good for you", but you can only sell it back to the company that issued it.

If you get $5/year on your $1 investment, you may be a widow or orphan.

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12 minutes ago, peter45 said:

The documentation regarding the diversion of dividends into stock buy backs started with G. W. Bush, as can be seen by comparing dividends since about the year 2000 to the present.

https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-dividend-yield/table/by-year

People purchased stocks with the intention of living off the continuously DEPENDABLE dividends, rather than the Las Vegas gambling on inflated prices.

 

you missed my earlier point 

 

12 minutes ago, peter45 said:

Stocks can be bought and sold directly from the company receiving the investment.

 

so??? what is the problem? this is why I said Civilians shouldn't be playing the stock market

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, peter45 said:

There is no need for a stock market.

 

This is why I made the comment earlier about you dont understand the stock market, you seem to be fixated on the "secondary" markets

you have no clue about "primary " markets , where companies raise capital for expansion etc

 

Secondary markets is what 99% of the civilians play in, and yes its a zero sum game as professional traders are not the same as retail brokers and trading educators who loses money consistently for the most part

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, peter45 said:

If you buy a stock for $1, and ten years later the company is selling more stock for $100, then "good for you", but you can only sell it back to the company that issued it.

If you get $5/year on your $1 investment, you may be a widow or orphan.

 

 

Again, I dont see the problem here?

 

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2 minutes ago, chairmanOFTB said:

 

you missed my earlier point 

 

so??? what is the problem? this is why I said Civilians shouldn't be playing the stock market

 

This is why I made the comment earlier about you dont understand the stock market, you seem to be fixated on the "secondary" markets

you have no clue about "primary " markets , where companies raise capital for expansion etc

 

Secondary markets is what 99% of the civilians play in, and yes its a zero sum game as professional traders are not the same as retail brokers and trading educators who loses money consistently for the most part

 

Again, I dont see the problem here?

 

The POINT is in the title of this thread.

 

Ma and Pa, and the Fox fools think that the stock market IS THE ECONOMY.

Why the hell are the stock market results shown on the evening news.

If Ma and Pa see that the stock market is falling, they stop spending their savings,

so the "market" falls some more.

 

Since the banks own most of the stocks,

there is no need for a "secondary" market,

and the "primary" market only needs to be a select few people.

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   On 11/27/2019 at 8:44 AM,  peter45 said: 

What does the stock market have to do with capitalism?

 

COTB: “ah plenty? where do you think Companies get the money for their expansion?”

 

after the IPO, most companies do not issue additional common stock for expansion purposes. 

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2 minutes ago, theLion said:
   On 11/27/2019 at 8:44 AM,  peter45 said: 

What does the stock market have to do with capitalism?

 

ah plenty? where do you think Companies get the money for their expansion?

 

after the IPO, most companies do not issue additional common stock for expansion purposes. 

There is no need for buying and selling a stock AFTER an IPO.

 

Most companies have no need to make a product or provide a service.

They only need to manipulate their stock prices to get "investors".

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1 minute ago, peter45 said:

There is no need for buying and selling a stock AFTER an IPO.

 

Most companies have no need to make a product or provide a service.

They only need to manipulate their stock prices to get "investors".

That’s as ignorant as the stupidity COTB was trying to push. 

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4 minutes ago, theLion said:

That’s as ignorant as the stupidity COTB was trying to push. 

Church Of The Beloved?

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12 minutes ago, theLion said:

That’s as ignorant as the stupidity COTB was trying to push. 

All we need are tulips!

 

Tulip mania (Dutch: tulpenmanie) was a period in the Dutch Golden Age during which contract prices for some bulbs of the recently introduced and fashionable tulip reached extraordinarily high levels and then dramatically collapsed in February 1637.

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