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On 11/10/2019 at 1:59 PM, ConConfounder said:

Driven into pathological insanity by the fake news and fraudulent propaganda pounded into their heads by FauxNews and rightwingnut talk radio, the American rightwingers are now living in a kind of crackpot alternative universe that has almost no connection to the real world. 

 

To be a "conservative" in America today, you have to accept as unchallenged dogma a number of truly insane beliefs, and never let logic, reason, facts or sanity come between you.

The Conspiracy Theories A Conservative Must Believe Today

Washington Monthly
November 10, 2019
 

As Donald Trump and his conservative defenders begin to construct a conspiracy theory that Adam Schiff  personally orchestrated a massive conspiracy to entrap Trump in Ukraine, it’s worth noting just how many conspiracy theories you have to believe in just to be a standard Republican these days. Political parties in all eras have a number of questionable orthodoxies, but the sheer number of conspiracy theories that make up mainstream Republican ideology is remarkable. A quick rundown would include but not be limited to;

 

1. The belief that 10,000 climate scientists all around the world are either stupid, or engaged in a massive criminal conspiracy to concoct bad science in order to receive…more government grant funding. And that no other scientists are exposing it.

 

2. The belief that there is a giant conspiracy across all of news media to make Republicans look bad and elect Democrats–in spite of continually unfair press coverage of candidates like both Bernie Sanders *and* Hillary Clinton–in exchange for…what? It’s never really clear.

 

3. The belief without evidence that there is a giant conspiracy across local, state and federal elections officials all across the country to engage in mass wide-scale voter impersonation fraud. Needless to say, this would be insanely complicated, incredibly risky and hugely inefficient.

 

4. The belief that that there is a giant conspiracy to push migrants to the border in order to change the demographics of the U.S., in order to…increase taxes and gain “control”? This is a pretty nonsensical conspiracy, but it’s among the most common. It’s no surprise that this sort of rhetoric echoes fascist antisemitic tropes, which is why George Soros is so commonly included.

 

5. The belief that there was a deep conspiracy to elect a man named “Barack Hussein Obama” to the presidency in order to implement socialism in America…and that the shadowy socialist cabal picked a guy named “Barack Hussein Obama” for the job. Or made up his birth certificate from scratch and decided on one of the most unlikely presidential names imaginable in his birth year.

 

6. The belief that the “Deep State” entrapped Trump with Russia entanglements before the 2016 in order to derail his presidency if he won, but didn’t use it to stop him from winning, but were blindsided when he won, but have stymied his every move afterward.

 

7. The belief that there is a giant unexposed conspiracy of 100,000s of teachers/faculty across PreK and higher education to indoctrinate young people. Rather than, you know, people not buying into garbage and bigotry once they learn something.

 

8. The belief that a tiny group of obscenely rich industrialists are the only truthtellers, the only ones looking out for the “forgotten man”, while millions of middle class professionals and civil servants are corrupt liars. This one is particularly ironic, as it represents a twisted funhouse version of Marxist theory.

 

9. The belief that millions of people want to disarm them to leave them defenseless against looters, burglars and Liberal Fascism ™, rather than just want their kids not to get shot at school again and again by trigger-happy Rambo cosplayers.

 

10. The belief that Green Energy is a scam to give connected companies money and make coal miners homeless, rather than an effort to save millions of lives from climate change, pollution and black lung.

 

11. The belief that social services are an intentionally corrupt scam to keep minority groups on the “Democrat Plantation” ™, rather than a good-faith effort to make up for the predations of a brutal market in a society riddled with horrific structural racism.

 

It goes on and on. And that’s just the standard stuff you hear from most GOP politicians on any given day. It doesn’t even get into the really weird conspiracies that millions of Republican voters actively believe, like QAnon, secret 5th column communists, pedophile illuminati, etc. It also doesn’t touch the dangerously errant shibboleths like “tax cuts pay for themselves” or “anyone can escape poverty if they really want to” which, while not conspiracy theories, are false articles of faith with destructive consequences.

 

Again, it would be one thing if these beliefs were limited to the GOP base. But it’s not just the rubes. It’s the Senators and the Representatives. It’s the President and his lawyers. They all feed from the paranoid conservative infotainment trough, which has to up the ante every year in order to make the world as it really is match up somehow with false conservative ideological orthodoxy.

 

It’s conspiracy theory turtles all the way down. And needless to say, in a two-party system, it’s incredibly dangerous for one party to be this far gone from reality.

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18 hours ago, Zaro said:

The kunt Z09 is a perfect example. Every time he is confronted by an uncomfortable fact about Trump he completely shuts down and whipps out an old post by dontlooknow

 

It is pathetic.

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On 11/26/2019 at 10:12 AM, kking said:

1. The belief that 10,000 climate scientists all around the world are either stupid, or engaged in a massive criminal conspiracy to concoct bad science in order to receive…more government grant funding. And that no other scientists are exposing it.

Do we have a list of these 10 000 climate scientists? Are they all meteorologists? Are they archeologists? Climate science covers a number of different scientific specialties. 

2. The belief that there is a giant conspiracy across all of news media to make Republicans look bad and elect Democrats–in spite of continually unfair press coverage of candidates like both Bernie Sanders *and* Hillary Clinton–in exchange for…what? It’s never really clear.

I don't think anyone said ALL of news media. Fox and Breitbart are the two most prominent right-wing outfits, sure. We know what they peddle. But the main argument is that CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and NBC at large purport to be straight-forward journalistic enterprises, when it's obvious that they have as much bias as Fox or anyone else. And, regarding the Bernie question, the reason Bernie was treated unfairly was because Hillary held undue influence over the DNC and the establishment media. She was their pawn in the political game and wielded that power as one would expect an unscrupulous monster like her to. Finally, if you think Hillary got an unfair shake in the media in 2016, YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT AND BLIND. EVERY SINGLE MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET EXCEPT FOX SUPPORTED HER. PERIOD.

3. The belief without evidence that there is a giant conspiracy across local, state and federal elections officials all across the country to engage in mass wide-scale voter impersonation fraud. Needless to say, this would be insanely complicated, incredibly risky and hugely inefficient.

Firstly, "complicated, incredibly risky, and hugely inefficient" is not a deterrent for corrupt people. That's actually the name of the game they play. But regardless of all that, it's not about voter impersonation. It's about allowing illegal immigrants to vote, allowing citizens to vote more than once, and to facilitate the undermining of voter laws (examples such as busing groups of Democrat voters between different jurisdictions that are a little to close to call, or removing/not enforcing voter ID laws; every developed nation in the world except the US has universal voter ID laws). 

4. The belief that that there is a giant conspiracy to push migrants to the border in order to change the demographics of the U.S., in order to…increase taxes and gain “control”? This is a pretty nonsensical conspiracy, but it’s among the most common. It’s no surprise that this sort of rhetoric echoes fascist antisemitic tropes, which is why George Soros is so commonly included.

Okay, so what's your explanation for why Democrats exclusively are in favour of NOT ENFORCING EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS? What end of the spectrum is calling for the abolition of ICE (the main agency for immigration enforcement)? What party do immigrants overwhelmingly vote for? Answer these and you'll paint a pretty clear picture.

5. The belief that there was a deep conspiracy to elect a man named “Barack Hussein Obama” to the presidency in order to implement socialism in America…and that the shadowy socialist cabal picked a guy named “Barack Hussein Obama” for the job. Or made up his birth certificate from scratch and decided on one of the most unlikely presidential names imaginable in his birth year.

This is a silly conspiracy. Barack Obama turned out to be as much an establishment warhawk as Hillary or McCain would've been. Nothing going on here.

6. The belief that the “Deep State” entrapped Trump with Russia entanglements before the 2016 in order to derail his presidency if he won, but didn’t use it to stop him from winning, but were blindsided when he won, but have stymied his every move afterward.

Ummm...literally everyone except Kelly-Anne Conway, Steve Bannon, and Michael Moore were BLINDSIDED by Trump's victory. Literally every other pollster, candidate, media organization, and prominent celebrity was surprised by his victory. Kelly-Anne, Bannon, and Michael Moore were essentially the only people in America saying that Trump is gonna win this thing. The first two had internal polling that told them that most of the key swing states were going Trump, and Michael Moore had his finger on the pulse of the rustbelt. EVERYONE ELSE WAS SURPRISED.

7. The belief that there is a giant unexposed conspiracy of 100,000s of teachers/faculty across PreK and higher education to indoctrinate young people. Rather than, you know, people not buying into garbage and bigotry once they learn something.

It's not a conspiracy....it's just a statistical trend that public school teachers are overwhelmingly left-leaning. This inevitably colours how they educate their students. 

8. The belief that a tiny group of obscenely rich industrialists are the only truthtellers, the only ones looking out for the “forgotten man”, while millions of middle class professionals and civil servants are corrupt liars. This one is particularly ironic, as it represents a twisted funhouse version of Marxist theory.

Industrialists are the enemy of the middle class, yes, but so are warhawk Democrats, social media oligarchs, left-wing billionaires, and left-wing media oligarchs. Middle-class professions are about 50-50. Civil servants are primarily left-leaning because their salaries come from tax revenue. Simple as.

9. The belief that millions of people want to disarm them to leave them defenseless against looters, burglars and Liberal Fascism ™, rather than just want their kids not to get shot at school again and again by trigger-happy Rambo cosplayers.

Some facts about gun crime in the US:

>the vast majority of deaths caused by guns is by suicide. THE VAST MAJORITY.

>of the remaining deaths due to guns involves BLACK VICTIMS and BLACK PERPETRATORS. 

>of the non-Black gun deaths, the VAST MAJORITY is with handguns

>of the non-handgun deaths, the vast MINORITY is in school shootings.

So my question is: why are gun-grabbers only emphasizing school shootings when they attempt to justify gun laws?

Also: do Democrats expect murderers and other criminals to follow gun laws?

10. The belief that Green Energy is a scam to give connected companies money and make coal miners homeless, rather than an effort to save millions of lives from climate change, pollution and black lung.

I don't think it's a conspiracy, but the alarm has been sounding literally since I was 10 years old about climate change. I'm 30 now, and I haven't seen Vancouver, LA, or NYC under water. Humanity is notoriously adept at adaptation. Let's adapt. Let's not destroy our society for a perceived doomsday event that is already 20 years overdue.

11. The belief that social services are an intentionally corrupt scam to keep minority groups on the “Democrat Plantation” ™, rather than a good-faith effort to make up for the predations of a brutal market in a society riddled with horrific structural racism.

The war on poverty began around 1965....if money, foodstamps, and social services is the solution, how come 50+years and billions of dollars have not solved the problem? Family, friends, and churches used to function well enough. Basic psychology tells us that rewarding incompetence and helplessness simply BEGETS incompetence and helplessness.

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CNN’s Chris Cuomo stuns Texas Republican after debunking Trump’s Ukraine ‘server’ conspiracy theories

On Monday’s edition of CNN’s “Cuomo Prime Time,” Chris Cuomo left Rep. Randy Weber (R-TX) stunned after shutting down President Donald Trump’s conspiracy theories about CrowdStrike being a Ukrainian company and Ukraine somehow having a Democratic Party server.

 

“You don’t believe that there’s a question as to whether or not Russia or Ukraine interfered in our election, right?” said Cuomo.

 

“Russia interfered in the election, they tried to,” said Weber. “Secretary Jeh Johnson said there was no votes changed.”

 

“Never said anything about votes,” said Cuomo. “They hacked the DNC server. Nobody has ever suggested as a matter of fact that Ukraine had anything to do with that. The only person who has suggested it, in the ugliest of ironies, is Vladimir Putin. He made up a story about Ukraine wanting to go after Trump, and now members of your own party are parroting it.”

 

“Was CrowdStrike involved in the DCCC hacking?” shot back Weber.

“Yes,” said Cuomo.

“Is CrowdStrike in part owned by Ukraine?” said Weber.

 

“No,” said Cuomo.

“Really?” said Weber, after a few seconds of stunned silence.

“Yes,” said Cuomo.

 

“That’s not the information that we have,” said Weber.

“You have bad information,” said Cuomo. “The man is American, born of Russian descent. He’s not Ukrainian. Even if he were, that’s what you’re going to hang it on? Tom Bossert said that was a joke. You heard testimony from experts saying it was a joke. Mueller said it’s not true. [Senate Intel chairman Richard] Burr said it’s not true.”

 

“What Trump is saying is, go back and let’s look at all the was in on on the DCCC server and—”

“There was no server,” cut in Cuomo. “They operated in a cloud system. There is no server to steal.”

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24 minutes ago, slideman said:

Person unreal is claiming on another thread that liberals are mentally ill. Lol

Don't know the context, but some liberals are...the one's that think it's a good idea to cut of their genitals and have a doctor resew them up into the opposite organ. That's mentally ill. 

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3 minutes ago, slideman said:

Not all transgender people are liberals

Correct. And not all transgender people think genital mutilation is the proper fulfillment of one's gender identity.

But the vast majority of transgenders fall on the le.ft side of the spectrum. 

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Just now, kking said:

It's behind a paywall or something; can't read it. Can you give me a quick rundown?

it's basically a brief history of the American psychiatric association's attitude toward transgenderism. Their position is in flux

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5 minutes ago, slideman said:

it's basically a brief history of the American psychiatric association's attitude toward transgenderism. Their position is in flux

Does it mention anything about how genital mutilation is not something a sane person does? How the attempted suicide rate of transgenders (before AND after surgery) is more than 15X the rate of the non-trans population? How there is a movement/talking point used by transpeople the last couple years that it's transphobic for a heterosexual male to not want to have sex with a transwoman with a penis?

It is complete absurdity and abandonment of biological facts, and understating or apologizing for the mentally ill aspects of it simply encourages more people towards this behaviour. Transpeople got a bad shake in life...we shouldn't be encouraging more people to get on that train. 

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1 minute ago, kking said:

there is a movement/talking point used by transpeople the last couple years that it's transphobic for a heterosexual male to not want to have sex with a transwoman with a penis?

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1 minute ago, slideman said:

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Yes...one of the truly tragic aspects of all this is that gender reassignment surgery is no where near a proper procedure yet. It still provides only grotesque and scar-laden results. Which means that, on top of still struggling to pass with clothes, post-op trans people 100% FAIL to pass without clothes on. Their sex lives, therefore, are completely stifled and essentially over, except for the rare fetishist who's into it for the novelty, not for the person. The result is that transpeople online have been using accusatory rhetoric to try to bully normal heterosexual males into tolerating "her penis" and suggesting that if you won't sleep with a "woman" with a penis, you're bigoted.

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1 minute ago, slideman said:

I don't know about you but I have been highly selective about who I had sex with.

As have I. Until relatively recently, I have NEVER seen anyone getting bullied for what they are or are not attracted to. This goes for skin colour, sex/gender, religion, whatever. You don't get to choose what you're attracted to, so to suggest that a heterosexual isn't interested in sleeping with someone with a penis is being bigoted is simply insane. 

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Just now, kking said:

As have I. Until relatively recently, I have NEVER seen anyone getting bullied for what they are or are not attracted to. This goes for skin colour, sex/gender, religion, whatever. You don't get to choose what you're attracted to, so to suggest that a heterosexual isn't interested in sleeping with someone with a penis is being bigoted is simply insane. 

Can you link to these statements?

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Yep.  It is amazing how the GOP mentality has changed over the last decade. More interesting, it has turned about 180 degrees since the Trump kingdom has been embraced by their sheep. Most of the minions have been used as tools to promote their hatred of compassion, critical thinking,.and rejection of scientific facts of what is happening around us. To the new GOP, many are pushing the idea that Putin is not such a bad guy. Wonder why more and more Republicans are defending Trump every time he gets rid of someone that disagrees with him. The right now pushes the conspiracy theories that most scientists and legal scholars are infiltrated by the far left. What a crock of doo doo.

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A cabal of high ranking gov. officials in the CIA, FBI, and DOJ. conspired to hide the crimes of Hillary Clinton, toss the election of 2016 to Hillary, and then frame Trump who won the election.

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1 minute ago, pwkbirdie56 said:

pushing the idea that Putin is not such a bad guy

It would be funny if it weren't so dangerous

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3 minutes ago, slideman said:

Can you link to these statements?

No, unfortunately I can't. They were social media screenshots on another forum that I didn't save. It's the noise from the loud minority, but I've seen several examples. But here are two links that scratch the surface of the ideology behind what I've been describing. 

https://www.them.us/story/trans-women-femmes-fetishization

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kzd8yx/how-transgender-women-top-during-sex

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2 minutes ago, johndnorth said:

A cabal of high ranking gov. officials in the CIA, FBI, and DOJ. conspired to hide the crimes of Hillary Clinton, toss the election of 2016 to Hillary, and then frame Trump who won the election.

 

you're a fukking idiot

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