O'Rourke at Democratic debate: 'Hell yes we're going to take your AR-15s'

[Blue Devil]

2 minutes ago, Spartan said:

 

The people who support such things just don't get that the moment any law gets passed authorizing confiscation, gun owners won't just be sitting at home waiting for the agents of the state to come.  Besides, most cops ordered to engage in such operations would be busy calling their pro-gun friends and telling them to get prepared and get out of the house.

 

Democrat National Socialists...

This is very sound advice.

[JinnMartini]

On ‎9‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 1:11 PM, Deadric said:

He can try.

 

Yeah, TRY he can !

 

Succeed ?

 

Not a chance !

And considering many dems also love their guns  .  .  .  he'll drive lots of them into the Republican party.

And he can forget the nomination  .  .  .  then again, he never stood a chance anyway !

[Sane]

On 9/13/2019 at 7:14 AM, MidnightMax said:

 

SMART people don't try to "come take guns away" since the ones that OWN THEM tend to SHOOT YOU for stealing.

 

You're NOT REAL SMART are you drJOKE???
 

 

Have you ever seen the army?  They will f*ck you up.  You can think you're Billy Bad ass all you want there coward, but if they want them.  They'll take them.  I wish someone with a f*ckin brain would address this issue.  You hear assh*les like Alex Jones and others saying these kids are crisis actors.  If that was my kid that died.  I would beat him to death with a claw hammer.  Not a gun.  

We have the right to protect ourselves.  We aren't going to beat the army so kiss that stupid sh*t thought process goodbye.  We do however, have a right to protect ourselves in our homes.  You don't need an AK47 to do it.  

[Spartan]

Just now, Sane said:

Have you ever seen the army?  They will f*ck you up.  You can think you're Billy Bad ass all you want there coward, but if they want them.  They'll take them. 

 

Have YOU ever seen the Army?  The soldiers of the Army would reject orders to confiscate guns, and many would promptly defect to the resistance.

 

Just now, Sane said:

I wish someone with a f*ckin brain would address this issue. 

 

Clearly, you don't qualify.

 

Just now, Sane said:

You hear assh*les like Alex Jones and others saying these kids are crisis actors.  If that was my kid that died.  I would beat him to death with a claw hammer.  Not a gun. 

 

Would you be surprised to learn I agree with you about Jones and his ilk?

 

Just now, Sane said:

We have the right to protect ourselves.   We do however, have a right to protect ourselves in our homes. 

 

You're contradicting yourself.  If we have a right to protect ourselves that right doesn't end at the doors of our homes.

 

Just now, Sane said:

You don't need an AK47 to do it.  

 

You don't have the right to tell anyone what they "need".

[JinnMartini]

On ‎9‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 1:17 PM, SixShooter said:

Hell no you're NOT.

 

And he'll be forever forgotten in a few months.

 

And maybe even buried  .  .  .  you know a stroke or choking on a pretzel or something !

 

Sh|t does happen !

[JinnMartini]

47 minutes ago, Deadric said:

 

Mother democratic politicians are mad at Beto for wanting confiscation. They will vote for a ban on new sales, but not mandatory buyback; so even if the left wins it all in 2020, they will grandfather existing guns. Of course if they don’t pack the court with expansion, their existing sales ban will get stuck down.

 

I also like how that SWAT is working. Since we would know about confiscation, we could prepare. A raid like that through the door would be easy to hurt. Rig the door to explode when busted down. 

 

And of course explosives on both sides of the driveway, timed to go off seconds after the front door is busted  . .  .  for the retreating enemy.

[kfools]

44 minutes ago, Sane said:

Have you ever seen the army?  They will f*ck you up.  You can think you're Billy Bad ass all you want there coward, but if they want them.  They'll take them.  I wish someone with a f*ckin brain would address this issue.  You hear assh*les like Alex Jones and others saying these kids are crisis actors.  If that was my kid that died.  I would beat him to death with a claw hammer.  Not a gun.  

We have the right to protect ourselves.  We aren't going to beat the army so kiss that stupid sh*t thought process goodbye.  We do however, have a right to protect ourselves in our homes.  You don't need an AK47 to do it.  

So what happens if three armed thugs with guns break into your house? What are you gonna fend them off with? 

[Deadric]

47 minutes ago, Sane said:

Have you ever seen the army?  They will f*ck you up.  You can think you're Billy Bad ass all you want there coward, but if they want them.  They'll take them.  I wish someone with a f*ckin brain would address this issue.  You hear assh*les like Alex Jones and others saying these kids are crisis actors.  If that was my kid that died.  I would beat him to death with a claw hammer.  Not a gun.  

We have the right to protect ourselves.  We aren't going to beat the army so kiss that stupid sh*t thought process goodbye.  We do however, have a right to protect ourselves in our homes.  You don't need an AK47 to do it.  

 

No worries on the military. The military can not be used to enforce civilian laws, per the posse comitatus act. So looks like you are limited to the number of cops that are willing to confiscate against the many more numbers of gun owners. Not good odds. 

[drvoke]

1 hour ago, Deadric said:

 

Mother democratic politicians are mad at Beto for wanting confiscation. They will vote for a ban on new sales, but not mandatory buyback; so even if the left wins it all in 2020, they will grandfather existing guns. Of course if they don’t pack the court with expansion, their existing sales ban will get stuck down.

 

I also like how that SWAT is working. Since we would know about confiscation, we could prepare. A raid like that through the door would be easy to hurt. Rig the door to explode when busted down. 

 

Killing a federal officer is a capital offense. Are you sure you want this pic for the family photo album?

 

 

 

 

[Sane]

1 hour ago, Spartan said:

 

Have YOU ever seen the Army?  The soldiers of the Army would reject orders to confiscate guns, and many would promptly defect to the resistance.

 

 

Clearly, you don't qualify.

 

 

Would you be surprised to learn I agree with you about Jones and his ilk?

 

 

You're contradicting yourself.  If we have a right to protect ourselves that right doesn't end at the doors of our homes.

 

 

You don't have the right to tell anyone what they "need".

Well you NEED to shut the Bad word up.  Listen tool I didn't contradict myself I was making a point that would require some mental capacity to understand.  So let me make it easier for you to understand.  We have a right to protect ourselves.  Meaning we should have the right to firearms.  Now stupid if you believe that children being murdered is just a ploy to take your guns.  You are stupid.  There was a family that is being stalked by idiots like you.  The CHILD was killed.  Alex needs to be killed slowly for that crime.   

So in short.  We should have the right to defend ourselves.  The government ISN'T going to come for your guns.  The parents who had the children murdered.  You should treat them with respect.  Be understanding of their knee jerk reaction, and help them see that if guns were banned there would be more sorrow and lose.  See stupid, it's called thinking.  Fat lazy minded little pricks need to get beat.  

[Blue Devil]

7 minutes ago, drvoke said:

 

Killing a federal officer is a capital offense. Are you sure you want this pic for the family photo album?

 

 

 

 

 

Oooo... scary.

 

Ha!

 

In defense of the Constitution, against Treasonous Democrat National Socialists...?

 

Be like shootin' Nazis.

 

A lot like shootin' Nazis, in fact.

 

No jury of Americans would convict him.

 

Might even get a Freedom medal.

 

 

[Sane]

36 minutes ago, kfools said:

So what happens if three armed thugs with guns break into your house? What are you gonna fend them off with? 

I don't think I made my point here.  The conversation has been polluted with right wing personailities saying stupid sh&t like these are crisis actors.  The conversation should be we have a right to defend ourselves.  We understand your pain and your reaction from what has happened to you; however, banning all weapons will bring more pain then if not.  That's how it should be handled.  Now you really don't need an AK47 to protect yourself.  

[Sane]

36 minutes ago, Deadric said:

 

No worries on the military. The military can not be used to enforce civilian laws, per the posse comitatus act. So looks like you are limited to the number of cops that are willing to confiscate against the many more numbers of gun owners. Not good odds. 

Hence the reason we don't need to worry about having a militia to protect us from the government.  The national guard jack up Detroit pretty good in the 60's.  Soldiers follow orders.  If there was an uprising they would call them in.  I don't think we need to worry about it though.

[kfools]

5 minutes ago, Sane said:

I don't think I made my point here.  The conversation has been polluted with right wing personailities saying stupid sh&t like these are crisis actors.  The conversation should be we have a right to defend ourselves.  We understand your pain and your reaction from what has happened to you; however, banning all weapons will bring more pain then if not.  That's how it should be handled.  Now you really don't need an AK47 to protect yourself.  

Yes. 

 

I do. Also, what does it hurt you if I own an AK47? 

[kfools]

7 minutes ago, Sane said:

I don't think I made my point here.  The conversation has been polluted with right wing personailities saying stupid sh&t like these are crisis actors.  The conversation should be we have a right to defend ourselves.  We understand your pain and your reaction from what has happened to you; however, banning all weapons will bring more pain then if not.  That's how it should be handled.  Now you really don't need an AK47 to protect yourself.  

By the way, do you own an ak47? 

[Sane]

1 minute ago, kfools said:

Yes. 

 

I do. Also, what does it hurt you if I own an AK47? 

It's the fringe that takes those guns and kill as many people as possible.  So why are you a bad shot?  If some breaks into your house you worried you'll miss?

[kfools]

Just now, Sane said:

It's the fringe that takes those guns and kill as many people as possible.  So why are you a bad shot?  If some breaks into your house you worried you'll miss?

I have been in sustained gun fights. So let me give you some advice. If you are dealing with multiple armed men all you have going for you is superior fire power. Why do you think police carry Rifles? 

[kfools]

2 minutes ago, Sane said:

It's the fringe that takes those guns and kill as many people as possible.  So why are you a bad shot?  If some breaks into your house you worried you'll miss?

Let me ask you a question. 

 

In this quest for public safety by disarming people who have done nothing wrong what do you give up? 

 

You ask us to give up our rifles what does that cost you? Must be nice to ask other people to give something up when it costs you nothing. 

[Sane]

2 minutes ago, kfools said:

I have been in sustained gun fights. So let me give you some advice. If you are dealing with multiple armed men all you have going for you is superior fire power. Why do you think police carry Rifles? 

Ok, so you were in the military.  I had a buddy come back from Iraq.  His first time in a traffic jam, flipped out, and drop up the on ramp to get out of there.  That PTSD is real.

[kfools]

Just now, Sane said:

Ok, so you were in the military.  I had a buddy come back from Iraq.  His first time in a traffic jam, flipped out, and drop up the on ramp to get out of there.  That PTSD is real.

Usually PTSD doesn't manifest like that. That is extreme. 

[Sane]

1 minute ago, kfools said:

Let me ask you a question. 

 

In this quest for public safety by disarming people who have done nothing wrong what do you give up? 

 

You ask us to give up our rifles what does that cost you? Must be nice to ask other people to give something up when it costs you nothing. 

I said machine guns.  We absolutely should have the right to own guns.  The worlds an ugly place.  You have a right to defend yourself.

[kfools]

1 minute ago, Sane said:

I said machine guns.  We absolutely should have the right to own guns.  The worlds an ugly place.  You have a right to defend yourself.

Hardly anybody owns a machine gun now. What are you talking about? Maybe like 25,000 people or so actually own a machine gun. They damn sure aren't using them for crimes. 

[Sane]

1 minute ago, kfools said:

Usually PTSD doesn't manifest like that. That is extreme. 

He's messed up.  Some of the stories he's told me is just insane.  

[Sane]

2 minutes ago, kfools said:

Hardly anybody owns a machine gun now. What are you talking about? Maybe like 25,000 people or so actually own a machine gun. They damn sure aren't using them for crimes. 

Last I check an AK 47 was a machine gun.  So what do you think will solve the problem of every few months some assh*le murdering a bunch of people

[kfools]

Just now, Sane said:

Last I check an AK 47 was a machine gun.

Well you need to check again. There are very few AK47 "Machine guns" automatics in the United states. Almost all variants are semi automatics and the ones who own the automatic versions aren't anything you need to worry about. They are regulated to death. 

Just now, Sane said:

  So what do you think will solve the problem of every few months some assh*le murdering a bunch of people

I don't think it's a solvable problem. At all. Half the country hates the other half. 

 

The only real solution is likely to stop having the media cover these events. That seems to be the primary reason these shooters have a go at it in the first place is to get their message across using the media.